Veg and Bloom Grow

[jimmy1life]

I didnt have a problem in coco dtw thou. My plants got even greener then when i used a 3 part GMB with sensical. I still have like a full sample and back to using this with organic supplements. Just cant go wrong it works

 

[Cuebossa]

PROMIX on left, OCEAN FOREST on right. The promix will definitely be heavier but the oil production on the foxfarm still seems a little better. If I had to decide to use one or the other I would lean towards going all promix. I'm doing the flush,feed 1.8EC with the promix and this seemed to help during the swell period, circa week 6.

 

[Cuebossa]

Started these on 8/3. It's been 8 weeks. The Foxfarm really fell behind in the weight department. I am going to push these to 9 weeks and cut them. I have been feeding the PROMIX Veg+BLoom at 1.8EC with a good flush of straight RO before the 1.8 goes in.

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[Cuebossa]

Another harvest on record. I will get the weight data up as soon as dry. I am really amazed at the different pheno expressions between fox farm ocean forest and the ProMix.

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[patlpp]

Are both clones? seems Pro-mix is fatter !! Nice plants regardless. Was it just 2 different mediums and both fed Pro-Mix?
I'm doing a pro-mix vs AN vs Dyno and Pro-mix and AN are in a dead heat 2 weeks into flower. +REP

 

[homebrewer]

Are both clones? seems Pro-mix is fatter !! Nice plants regardless. Was it just 2 different mediums and both fed Pro-Mix?
I'm doing a pro-mix vs AN vs Dyno and Pro-mix and AN are in a dead heat 2 weeks into flower. +REP

Um, for the sake of your 'test', I hope you realize that promix is not a plant food nor an additive, it's a peat based medium.

 

[patlpp]

Thanks HB. I totally brain-farted. I meant to say Veg-Bloom by Hydro research! While I'm on the subject: the Dyno is a tad behind but I think I overfed early on. I'm doing 5ml grow and 1.5ml Tek in Pro-mix BX feed feed water. Sound bout right? The strain is Super lemon haze . Seems to be somewhat a light feeder.

 

[homebrewer]

Thanks HB. I totally brain-farted. I meant to say Veg-Bloom by Hydro research! While I'm on the subject: the Dyno is a tad behind but I think I overfed early on. I'm doing 5ml grow and 1.5ml Tek in Pro-mix BX feed feed water. Sound bout right? The strain is Super lemon haze . Seems to be somewhat a light feeder.

Your ratio of grow-to-protekt would put my pH pretty low and I personally work around a 1:1 ratio. Depending on the size of your plant, 1 tsp of grow is probably a good dose of plant food for a plant in the heat of flowering. Cut that in half for veg.

 

[Cuebossa]

Yes, both clones.
I'm contemplating which medium to run next. Canna, Happy Frog or Nutrifield?

 

[CaliMackdaddy]

Just started using Veg+bloom on my clones, was using botanicare pure blend origonal.. which burned the hell out of my babies so i switched over, and so far a ton of lush green foliage nice and perky. A couple had damage by my dog, so the small one is still recovering gonna just use it as a mother anyway.

Week 1, Strain is purple barney, Pro-mix potting soil, Air pot .8 gallon, Ro+Ro Veg+Bloom at 400 PPM.

 

[captainmorgan]

Day 20 of flower in 5.2 gal airpot FF soil scrog 8 week veg.From the top they feel like a solid root mass and they drink 16 to 24 ozs a day depending on the temp.I've been using 500 ppm with a .5 TDS meter since day 14 and they look healthy.How high should I push the V+B ppm and what do I look for that shows I need to back off?

 

[Cuebossa]

assuming you are in ocean forest, you could hit the average feeding strain with 700-800 ppm on the .5EC scale. I would do a surge of plain water then hit with 700-800ppm.

 

[captainmorgan]

assuming you are in ocean forest, you could hit the average feeding strain with 700-800 ppm on the .5EC scale. I would do a surge of plain water then hit with 700-800ppm.

50/50 ocean forest and happy frog and at this point after 8 weeks of veg the airpots feel like a solid root mass.I followed their schedule for veg which was about 300 ppm with my R/O water.When I flipped to flower their schedule was 400 ppm,which I did for week 1 and 2. I then did a 3 gal per pot flush after day 14 and stepped up to 500 ppm.It's day 20 and their schedule has a drop in feed strength after week 3.How long would you run 700-800 ppm which for me would be a EC of 1400-1600 and would you cut back at some point except for the flush at the end?

 

[Cuebossa]

Their feed chart isn't detailed enough in my mind. The teaspoon is a kitchen tool not a really accurate measuring device. I would go 700-800ppm or 1.4-1.6EC from weeks 2 on making sure to flush before every application. You might even be able to hit 1.8EC at peak flower. Cut back EC if you see any stress

 

[captainmorgan]

Their feed chart isn't detailed enough in my mind. The teaspoon is a kitchen tool not a really accurate measuring device. I would go 700-800ppm or 1.4-1.6EC from weeks 2 on making sure to flush before every application. You might even be able to hit 1.8EC at peak flower. Cut back EC if you see any stress

How important is the flushing,I really don't have the extra time?It's a scrog in a cabinet and takes a lot of time to flush.I've been watering with nutes twice a day with with smaller amounts and not flooding with overflow.It's usually 16 ozs after lights come on then 8 ozs a hour or two before lights out per pot. They are usually dry enough at lights on that in takes a moment for the water to start to soak in. The only flush I've done is the 3 gal per pot one,and I give them straight water with molasses once a week.Just mixed up a gal with 1 tsp which is twice their schedule and it comes out to 750 ppm or 1.5 EC.

 

[CaliMackdaddy]

How important is the flushing,I really don't have the extra time?It's a scrog in a cabinet and takes a lot of time to flush.I've been watering with nutes twice a day with with smaller amounts and not flooding with overflow.It's usually 16 ozs after lights come on then 8 ozs a hour or two before lights out per pot. They are usually dry enough at lights on that in takes a moment for the water to start to soak in. The only flush I've done is the 3 gal per pot one,and I give them straight water with molasses once a week.Just mixed up a gal with 1 tsp which is twice their schedule and it comes out to 750 ppm or 1.5 EC.

To flush all you need to do is replace a feed with straight water, dosnt take anymore time then it normally would for a watering.

 

[captainmorgan]

To flush all you need to do is replace a feed with straight water, dosnt take anymore time then it normally would for a watering.

The term flush seems to mean more than one thing around here to different people.I've read that it's using large quantities of water to clean out a grow medium.Also used when stopping the feeding at the end of flower. And now to alternate between feeds with straight water.The first two make sense,your cleaning the medium and the plant.The last doesn't make as much sense to use that term.Your really just changing the feed schedule.Some of this is a little confusing to a newb.

 

[CaliMackdaddy]

The term flush seems to mean more than one thing around here to different people.I've read that it's using large quantities of water to clean out a grow medium.Also used when stopping the feeding at the end of flower. And now to alternate between feeds with straight water.The first two make sense,your cleaning the medium and the plant.The last doesn't make as much sense to use that term.Your really just changing the feed schedule.Some of this is a little confusing to a newb.

Well the idea of the Feed Feed Flush is to rinse off salts from the roots so they can easily obtain nutrients when fed again, its very normal with almost all coco/soiless growers. Flushing at the end is to use up the last as of what the soil has in nutrients... Im not the best to explain it but these are very normal methods to growing.

 

[CaliMackdaddy]

Bud shots after using veg+bloom, started 2 weeks into flower but still not bad frost, Also verrrry dense.

 

[SoQuick]

So no reply about shipping to Canada? I'm pretty disappointed.