VP Debate Tonight.

desert dude said:
So, you admit to posting at stormfront, Bucky?
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when did i say that?

i said that his words about blacks and early voting were basically word for word (verbatim) from here to stormfront based on what i saw.

and his words abotu blacks and early voting were welcomed at stormfront. much like i imagine most of what you would say would be.
 
what really did ryan in was when pressed on specifics.

then near the end when talking about taxes he refers to the 'real job creators' biden comes back: 97% of businesses in the US make less than 1,000,000 per year. he doubled-down 'the REAL job creators'... we could see who these people are looking after... i don't know i think even if biden did butt-in quite a bit he did shut a lot of the BS down.

conservatives were looking forward to this debate to watch that old, senile, and gaffe-prone Biden screw up... lol.. FAIL....
 
althor said:
Yeah, thats what I said earlier in the thread right after the debate ended. The left will see it as a win for the left. The right will see it as a win for the right. The independants wont change. But the left needed something to energize the base, and this did it. So in that aspect it was a win for the Dems. They wont lose voters from their base over the debate tonight. Which has been happening, the Florida poll is an example of that. Independants started leaning towards Romney and 2% of Obama voters switched to Romney. Tonight's debate will put a stop to that slippage and POSSIBLY even cause a 2% switch back to Obama.
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I disagree. Those who's convictions are as shallow as you describe are unlikely to vote at all. I don't see this debate as energizing either side. Biden's rude behavior will off-put a few undecideds, just as Al Gore's behavior in his debate with George Bush cost him votes, both moving the undecided away and losing his own supporters. I personally found Biden's behavior to be not the way I would expect a national leader to behave. I have always thought Obama made a poor choice for his VP and have yet to see Biden do anything to change my opinion. Even many die-hard Democrats would prefer a different VP. Frankly, even though Biden managed to not make any obvious gaffes, he still came off as being rude and childish.
 
Red1966 said:
I disagree. Those who's convictions are as shallow as you describe are unlikely to vote at all. I don't see this debate as energizing either side. Biden's rude behavior will off-put a few undecideds, just as Al Gore's behavior in his debate with George Bush cost him votes, both moving the undecided away and losing his own supporters. I personally found Biden's behavior to be not the way I would expect a national leader to behave. I have always thought Obama made a poor choice for his VP and have yet to see Biden do anything to change my opinion. Even many die-hard Democrats would prefer a different VP. Frankly, even though Biden managed to not make any obvious gaffes, he still came off as being rude and childish.
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*whose

what is it with retards and improper apostrophe usage?
 
redivider said:
what really did ryan in was when pressed on specifics.

then near the end when talking about taxes he refers to the 'real job creators' biden comes back: 97% of businesses in the US make less than 1,000,000 per year. he doubled-down 'the REAL job creators'... we could see who these people are looking after... i don't know i think even if biden did butt-in quite a bit he did shut a lot of the BS down.

conservatives were looking forward to this debate to watch that old, senile, and gaffe-prone Biden screw up... lol.. FAIL....
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You watched a different debate then. The 97% meme is about as phony as it gets, what they're counting in that 97% are mom and pop one man shows. Hell, grandma selling poodle collars on Ebay is part of that percentage, so it's very misleading. That fact is, 48% of the net income of sole proprietorships, partnerships, and S corps went to households with incomes above $200K.
How about Biden's outright lie about taxing the super rich making over $1million, the tax cut
Biden and Obama are proposing, taxes people making $200K +, not $1million.

Negative points for smirks, constant interruptions and appearing unprofessional.

I'll even going out on a limb and say Romney and Ryan will get a small bump in the polls in the days coming!
 
SahTiva said:
Even CNN, the most liberal name in news, conducted a poll and found Ryan to have had a "win"

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/11/cnn-poll-on-debate-winner-ryan-48-biden-44/

This debate series is going to be a landside, I can hear the left cries already.
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Agreed not only did Ryan win but many people noticed that Biden appeared drunk. Romney holds on to his nationwide Lead and maybe gains more woman voters!
All this with the Obama fix liberal nut moderating the so called debate.
 
nontheist said:
HAHA Won? Biden came out saying the same shit over and over again it was so rehearsed it was sad. Anyone watching that debate came out with more questions than answers it was a finger pointing contest and Biden made that even look scripted.
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Biden bitched he didn't have enough time to make his point.
LOL, if he didn't repeat half his statements, he would have have 3 more minutes.

LOL, if he didn't repeat half his statements, he would have have 3 more minutes.
 
Wow, that was embarrassing for the administration. Two pathetic debates in a row. We start with Obama phoning in the first debate and then we get Joe the laughing clown in the second. I know the polls show Ryan won, but I think it's far worse than that. Was he actually more "sauced up" than he was at THE VIL-LA-GES, down in Florida?

I will say this, Biden reinforced the entire reason why he was selected as Vice President in the first place, assassination insurance. No one would make an attempt on Obama with that fool waiting in the wings. Is there a single person on this forum that thinks Biden would ever be allowed to run for President in four years, regardless of the outcome of this election?
 
londonfog said:
Good showing Biden
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I'd have to say I enjoyed Biden and this debate!
Now if Prez. Obama will do some of the same I'll cross my fingers America won't go for the Two Tier Medicare and Social Security option Romney and Ryan want to force on us.

Why should people under 55 get less than those over 55? Why can't we manage our money? We can fight wars and if Romney has his way we will have more war than ever to pay for.

So perhaps this two tier system is designed to make more war spending possible. The last time I checked War in Iraq gave resources to corporations they didn't have before and still America lost jobs.
 
Ernst said:
I'd have to say I enjoyed Biden and this debate!
Now if Prez. Obama will do some of the same I'll cross my fingers America won't go for the Two Tier Medicare and Social Security option Romney and Ryan want to force on us.

Why should people under 55 get less than those over 55? Why can't we manage our money? We can fight wars and if Romney has his way we will have more war than ever to pay for.

So perhaps this two tier system is designed to make more war spending possible. The last time I checked War in Iraq gave resources to corporations they didn't have before and still America lost jobs.
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I'm sorry did you actually call a choice between THE EXACT SAME PROGRAM that is offered now and a voucher based system, a two tier system? If the person under 55 makes the CHOICE to go with traditional Medicare, how are they getting less? Only in the mind of a flaming Liberal is CHOICE a bad thing.

How dare they "force" CHOICE on us, those bastards.
 
deprave said:
That's pretty much the same gestures I am making while Paul Ryan is talking during this. I laughed at every one of those things he said right along with Biden.
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You clearly lack objectivity. If you think behaving rudely, childish and disrespectfully are traits to be copied, well, your opinion isn't worth much.
 
Red1966 said:
You clearly lack objectivity. If you think behaving rudely, childish and disrespectfully are traits to be copied, well, your opinion isn't worth much.
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::cough:: must escape toxic levels of hypocrisy, irony and utter bullshit..... ::gag:: ::choke::


You really have no shame, do you?
 
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