hydranthead
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white berry is fast but not very strong. the couchlock effect is heavily dependent on how long you let it go. grapefruit is excellent. c99 is strong fast and easy
Greenhouse seeds ...WHY?!
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Jogro
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The four biggest reasons NOT to use feminized ceeds are:
a. There is a much bigger variety of regular ones available.
b. They're cheaper.
c. You can use the males to make more ceeds if you like, and. . .
d. Some people think feminized ceeds are more hermie-prone.
Again, if you choose to use feminized ceeds because they're more convenient for your particular circumstance, so be it. I'm just saying that if you come across some non-feminized strain you're interested in, don't feel like you can't give it a shot.
To be Devil's advocate, if you planted only three regular ceeds, on average you'd expect to get at least one female 87% of the time, and with some strains, the female/male ratio is typically greater than 1:1, so your odds might even be better than that. Unless you're really unlucky, you shouldn't need five plants to find a female.
You can keep plants small until they're sexed (literally a foot tall), so its not like you'd be dealing with multiple "trees" in your grow space. If you like you can grow them in 2l bottles until they show gender, then repot only the female(s) you wanted to keep. Legal risk is jurisdiction-dependent, but virtually everywhere the penalty associated with one plant or three small plants is exactly the same. (IE your girlfriend shouldn't be more freaked out by a few small "baby" plants than one large one, especially if she understands that most of the babies will be killed shortly anyway).
As to "wasted" soil, it doesn't get "wasted" because if you find one of your seedlings is a male, you simply cull it and reuse the soil for the next one; the nutrients in it won't be depleted by a small few-week old male plant. Cost of a few cupfuls of soil to sex plants is negligible anyway. "Disposing" of baby males could be as simple as "clip (or yank) then garbage disposal" if you like. Some people swear by raw cannabis leaf juice as a tonic for its CBD content, so you literally drink the "evidence" if you liked!
bigbillyrocka
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Well if anyone takes the tattoo for life idea and wants to run with it, im a tattoo artist and ill hook you up for the small fee of a quarter oz. 
OGEvilgenius
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I'd say that folks who are wary of feminized seed and knowledgeable are more concerned with the general negatives associated with inbreeding more so than hermaphroditism.
You can increase N levels and make sure they're getting heavy blue light spectrum to increase the likelihood of a female also. I believe there are a couple other tricks that have been documented, but I don't know what they are off the top of my head.
Jogro
Well-Known Member
This is a whole can of worms.
Feminization of ceids is neither necessary nor sufficient to create inbred lines. Poor breeding and feminization of ceids are probably both responses to market pressures so even though they're not directly related, they may go together.
Personally, I don't believe that feminized ceids increase likelihood of seeing hermie offspring, though just reading these boards, its plain that many do believe it. The idea just isn't genetically sound to me.
The consensus in the breeding community is that you don't breed with feminized ceids, though I suspect that's based as much on superstition as science. By their nature, all cannabis plants contain the genetic ability to create flowers of either gender. Its probably true that if you were to trace back their lineage far enough, pretty much ALL cannabis lines at one point went though a generation created by pollenization by hermied female plants.
I vaguely remember hearing/reading something about temperature manipulation to increase female/male ratio, but can't remember the details off the top of my head.
I don't know how reliable these tricks are, but I doubt they hurt.
SupraSPL
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I have only tried greenhouse when I got freebies. The lemon skunk came out decent. Not skunky or lemony at all but VERY icy and finished in 8 weeks. A great smoke my GF loves it and she is very picky. I also tried the DNA lemon skunk fem and it smells strongly like strawberry quick. Dense and icy also finished in 8 weeks. Not lemony or skunky lol.
GreenHouse Lemon Skunk:
We also tried Greenhouse Super Lemon Haze which turned out an VERY strong smell like sour lemon cake. Out of 80 females compared this was among the strongest smelling even after drying thoroughly. Another one that my GF loves and finished in 8 weeks under ideal conditions, 9 weeks otherwise.
Both were fem beans and are true females. I stress tested them with a faint glow during the dark period and not a single banana can be found. Out of those 80 females, I have come across plenty that will hermy when stress tested, fems and regulars.
Anyway, if I had to recommend one fem bean I would suggest:
Cali Connection Budda Tahoe fem. Pic is at 42 days. Finished by 50 days.
GreenHouse Lemon Skunk:
We also tried Greenhouse Super Lemon Haze which turned out an VERY strong smell like sour lemon cake. Out of 80 females compared this was among the strongest smelling even after drying thoroughly. Another one that my GF loves and finished in 8 weeks under ideal conditions, 9 weeks otherwise.
Both were fem beans and are true females. I stress tested them with a faint glow during the dark period and not a single banana can be found. Out of those 80 females, I have come across plenty that will hermy when stress tested, fems and regulars.
Anyway, if I had to recommend one fem bean I would suggest:
Cali Connection Budda Tahoe fem. Pic is at 42 days. Finished by 50 days.
ProfessorPotSnob
New Member
I could not be paid to grow GreenHouse gear , no fecking way would I do such .. I would rather grow Bag Seed or collect mite infested clones .... Luckily I have never financially supported the company , did grow Lemon Skunk and the Church and a few other of there well known legends ... The harvest and quality was my worst in 23 years ..........Go Greenhouse
akula
Active Member
My general rule of thumb is that I avoid buying seeds from any breeder that buys some marketing...err I mean win/shows/places at the Cannabis Cup racket. If anything I feel I have a better shot at supporting a breeder that spends their time and money developing good strains and not using it to shake their tits and ass and throw money at the HTCC.