Moebius
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Nobody knows.
Its difficult to say that one medium is 'better' than another. Personal preference has a lot to do with it.
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Its difficult to say that one medium is 'better' than another. Personal preference has a lot to do with it.
smoothness
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i know that but like is easy of use easier for a newbie like me? i heard hempy himself uses coco coir now. something thats as forgiving as possible but not soil...
jela10
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WattSaver, those are 180W Jumbo's from ProSource. I love them and have done several 400W HPS grows to compare....no difference in yield except less popcorn buds around the bottom of plants...tey still grow cola's as long as my arm......just lower heat to deal with.
http://store.prosourceworldwide.com/Illuminator-180W-UFO-LED-Grow-Lights-p/illuminator jumbo ufo 180w.htm
smoothness
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i was just wondering what would be the best method for a newbie like me.
WattSaver
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Won't know for a couple more wks. I won't weigh it until it comes out of the jars. I'm guessing it will be close to 8oz.
WattSaver
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So I was right they are UFO's on steroids. I want to break out my 350w panel again but I'm having a hard time convincing the wife to let me set up a tent in my office.
smoothness
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htgsupply sells leds for cheap.
WattSaver
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Buy a cheap led and that what you get..... a cheap led. They will work but for how long. The heat sink is the most important part of an led panel.
jela10
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Yes, I researched a lot before I made the leap for LED's ($). I feel fortunate to have purchased winners on the first time. While I was farting with the 400W HPS earlier this year in the tent, I did some back-to-back single auto-flower grows in a closet with just one 180W UFO. They rivaled the size of photo-period girls with yields over 3oz dried. Still I claim most of my yields are due to the hempy method. My soil grows are history.....as a matter of fact I just gave my Fox Farms posters away the other day.
Dalek Supreme
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My favorite conventional Hempy medium is Hydroton.I suggest starting a seed in a starter cube/plug then plant directly into medium of the size bucket you want.Give of daily lite strength nute feed till the roots hit res (RHR).Keep in mind that with the right genetics,and enviroment,a very large plant can be had in a 1 gallon bucket.For clones with Hydroton Hempy,be sure to use RRR (rest roots on res) method or amend Taproot zone with Perlite or Rockwool to keep Taproot moist,and aerated till RHR.
Dalek Supreme
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I was just ripping down a 12/12 rooted male clone (3-4 wks) that I used for pollen.I realised after ripping the roots to take a pic.
Zone C (res) was Hydroton.
Zone A and B was polyfil (the yellow foam is a wrap I use for cloning).
The first pic shows the Dents from the Clay Balls from RRR (rest roots on res) method.I had to pick the Hydroton out from the dents.The roots took hold of them near res level to anchor,and converge on res level fluctuations imho.
The 2nd pic shows the Hydroton with ripped roots strewn about.Older plants have more of a foothold with Hydroton,and more so for an older vegging plant.I did not let res dry out nor did I water/feed every day.From my observance it looks like the total volume of roots are nearly the same for a Hydroton res,and a Polyfil res given same time frame for root growth.The Polyfil will have more roots in res,but will be skinny.The Hydroton will have less roots,but thicker.Imho the roots will adapt to there comfort,and the grower helps them along.
The 3rd pic is misleading due to some polyfil was ripped off from a side.You see the feeder roots on where they have gotten comfortable.No need for heavy anchoring due to readily avaible needs met without much searching,and other priorities imho.
The Polyfil above the res is mostly lightly damp,and obviously well aerated with no root die back,or woodyness.
Zone C (res) was Hydroton.
Zone A and B was polyfil (the yellow foam is a wrap I use for cloning).
The first pic shows the Dents from the Clay Balls from RRR (rest roots on res) method.I had to pick the Hydroton out from the dents.The roots took hold of them near res level to anchor,and converge on res level fluctuations imho.
The 2nd pic shows the Hydroton with ripped roots strewn about.Older plants have more of a foothold with Hydroton,and more so for an older vegging plant.I did not let res dry out nor did I water/feed every day.From my observance it looks like the total volume of roots are nearly the same for a Hydroton res,and a Polyfil res given same time frame for root growth.The Polyfil will have more roots in res,but will be skinny.The Hydroton will have less roots,but thicker.Imho the roots will adapt to there comfort,and the grower helps them along.
The 3rd pic is misleading due to some polyfil was ripped off from a side.You see the feeder roots on where they have gotten comfortable.No need for heavy anchoring due to readily avaible needs met without much searching,and other priorities imho.
The Polyfil above the res is mostly lightly damp,and obviously well aerated with no root die back,or woodyness.
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Dalek Supreme
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Hydroton is usefull because it is a reusable medium,and PH inert.It is light yet provides support.The air pockets from the manufacturing process is helpfull too in moisture retension.You cannot start a seed in it though,and without RRR method for a clone it is risky without constant watering til RHR,or will dry out.
RRR (rest roots on res)
RHR (roots hit res)
In the future I think I am going to settle on a Hempy with 75% Hydroton,with a 25% Polyfil Taproot wrap.This provides the benefit of Polyfil in the upper zone B,and lower zone A to fight off callous roots.The Hydroton will provide support.This makes more unreusable Polyfil available,and reuse the Hydroton.
I will also conduct an experiment at a later time,and if usefull info is gleamed,I will report here.
Dalek Supreme
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No it is not.If you need extra moisture content above the res then Rockwool or Coco would be your best bet.
WattSaver
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That's quite the base stem for a cup grow.
I like the root shot Dalek, and it shows that the roots do want to work their way into the rez, and the depth may be directly related to the level maintained in the rez.
I should have taken photos of the root ball when I broke down the outdoor girl, I started to clean the perlite for recycle, and there were so many roots that I finally just threw it all out. The bucket hadn't completely dried when I pulled the plug out, but the roots were so thick that over 1/2 the wet rez perlite came out with the core. I'd never seen this before, but then again I've never had to feed a plant one and a quarter gal's a day for 6wks either.
WattSaver
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Once you conduct this experiment let us all know, the info will be useful no matter how it turns out.