General Organics vs General Hydroponics

[Leonardo de Garden]

Getting ready for the taste tests.

Step one: Attached the identity of each on the underside of the jar lids. The lids will have to be disassembled to reveal which is GO, which is GH, and which was grown with traditional organics.

Step two: Jars were mixed, spun, twirled, and otherwise confused.

Step three: Jars were randomly labeled "Thing 1", "Thing 2", and "Thing 3".

Step four: Each jar in turn was cleaned and joints were rolled, with a single band for Thing 1, two bands for Thing 2, and three bands for Thing 3.

Step five: One of each of the three things was placed into small bags, to be used for testing.

In a nutshell, I don't know which is which. All I know is that all the Thing 1's are the same, all the Thing 2's are the same, and all the Thing 3's are the same. Once I have collected feedback about each Thing, I can open the jar lids and match the feedback to the nutrient.

 

[blacksun]

Hydro and organic?? Don't mix. Sorry

BLOOM yellowbottles does organic hydro...

 

[Huel Perkins]

Very cool, when does the taste testing begin?

 

[Leonardo de Garden]

Very cool, when does the taste testing begin?

Today, they've been curing, rolled them yesterday, going out to meet some nice folks today.

 

[Leonardo de Garden]

First report in: "Drummer Dude"

Thing 1 (Favorite) Strong grape notes. Best flavor.
Thing 2 (2nd) Very smooth, like an ultralight cigarette. Hard to tell for sure that you got a hit until you exhale.
Thing 3 (3rd) "Indoor, you can tell. Tastes expensive".

 

[SFguy]

leonardo, you did an awesome job start to finish +rep to you and im glad you stuck with it. im using the Go line and maybe your enticing me to swithc.

 

[meds215]

I am doing this same side by side comparison except I am doing it in soil. I can't tell the difference! I wonder why yours vegged at different rates, mine seem to be mirroring each other. Huh

 

[kushnotbush]

Curious how things are going with the taste test? Looks like the Flora line outperformed the Organic line but it also looks like the roots on the GO aren't the healthiest? I wasn't sure from the pic though and was curious on that. With that being said, do you think there was any rot on the roots? I'm not dissing your grow because I think it is very hard to contain the bad bacteria in hydro with organics. Obviously it can be done because your plant looks good and I bet it tastes very smooth and nice. Just wondering if you think you could work out the kinks (if you feel there were any) with the GO and it might perform the same if not better than the flora?

I have given much thought to trying the GO line up again because I have had much success with the three part flora. Much respect to you for doing a base side by side and documenting everything. The only reason for me not doing anything organic other than my soil stuff is simply because it's messy and IMO easier to have problems with that are much harder to correct than in a sterile reservoir. Definitely staying tuned for your smoke report and results.
KnB

 

[Leonardo de Garden]

I am doing this same side by side comparison except I am doing it in soil. I can't tell the difference! I wonder why yours vegged at different rates, mine seem to be mirroring each other. Huh

Cool, you'll have to tell us how you make out!

 

[Leonardo de Garden]

Curious how things are going with the taste test? Looks like the Flora line outperformed the Organic line but it also looks like the roots on the GO aren't the healthiest? I wasn't sure from the pic though and was curious on that. With that being said, do you think there was any rot on the roots? I'm not dissing your grow because I think it is very hard to contain the bad bacteria in hydro with organics. Obviously it can be done because your plant looks good and I bet it tastes very smooth and nice. Just wondering if you think you could work out the kinks (if you feel there were any) with the GO and it might perform the same if not better than the flora?

I have given much thought to trying the GO line up again because I have had much success with the three part flora. Much respect to you for doing a base side by side and documenting everything. The only reason for me not doing anything organic other than my soil stuff is simply because it's messy and IMO easier to have problems with that are much harder to correct than in a sterile reservoir. Definitely staying tuned for your smoke report and results.
KnB

The roots (under the gunk) looked healthy enough, and were firm. No indication of root rot, pretty sure the dark coloring is residual from the nutrients. I didn't see any real issue with the health of the GO plant, I just think that the synthetics have the edge in sheer physical performance. They can supply nitrogen etc. in a "prechewed" form. However they also tend to be messier in regards to leftover salts, so there could be a flavor hit in exchange for the extra size.

I'm waiting on more feedback from the samples that are out, but while I haven't formally say down with the three myself yet. I've taken a hit or two off off all three, and none of the three taste bad.

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[kushnotbush]

I am sure if you dried them well they will all taste pretty close, honestly and it is just my personal opinion, I think the only real difference in taste (organic vs. synthetic) is that the smoke has more of a stronger flavour profile with the organics but as you say the yield is slightly less. Thanks for the update and I will stay tuned for more.
KnB

 

[Huel Perkins]

First report in: "Drummer Dude"

Thing 1 (Favorite) Strong grape notes. Best flavor.
Thing 2 (2nd) Very smooth, like an ultralight cigarette. Hard to tell for sure that you got a hit until you exhale.
Thing 3 (3rd) "Indoor, you can tell. Tastes expensive".

Wait, i thought this was about to be a taste test between organic and inorganic to see which is preferred...?

 

[Leonardo de Garden]

Wait, i thought this was about to be a taste test between organic and inorganic to see which is preferred...?

It is, but I won't know which is which until the end. Handed out groups of three, one GH, one GO, and one traditional organic. Recording the results as Thing 1, Thing 2, and Thing 3. Then once I have the feedback, I can associate them. This prevents me from knowingly or unknowingly influencing people and skewing the results.

 

[Leonardo de Garden]

While waiting to hear back from hopefully a few more folks, I may as well take my turn.

I have Thing 1, Thing 2, and Thing 3. Nicely rolled and awaiting a touch of flame to spring to life.

Sniffing the joints:

Thing 1: Smells faintly of weed.
Thing 2: Much stronger aroma.
Thing 3: Between the two.

The smell of each is pleasant enough, so on this I'd rank them 2, 3, 1.

First hit:

Thing 1:Smooth, pleasant. Mild fruity flavor on the tip on my tongue on exhale.
Thing 2: Very smooth. No lung expansion.
Thing 3: Similar to 2, but more robust, and not quite as smooth.

End of round one. I'm not going to be sad to finish smoking any of this. And I'm very surprised how different the subtle notes of each tastes.

Thing 1 has a mellow, nice weed-like flavor. Sweetest of the three. Would be nice on a couch with friends.

Thing 2 is by far the smoothest. It is more like smoking out of a vaporizor than smoking a joint. On the down side, it shares the same drawback, in that it is almost too smooth to feel fulfilling. However this one is done would be best for people who tend to coughing problems.

Thing 3 has the strongest hints of floral. Flavor is of similar intensity as Thing 1.

To sum it up, thing 1 tastes the fruitiest, thing 3 tastes the most floral, and thing 2 has only a mild hint of a flavor. I thought I was going to be able to pick out the synthetic pretty easily, and I can't. I contrary to the popular opinion of many, I didn't detect an off flavor to any of them, and wouldn't mind smoking a couple of ounces of all three.

Oh, and yes, right now, the tip of my nose is numb. I'm feeling pretty mellow and okay at the moment.

My picks in order of preference, are 3,2,then 1. Since Dummer Dude rated Thing 1 (Favorite), Thing 2 (2nd), Thing 3 (3rd), lets assign 2 points for a win, and 1 point for 2nd.

That puts the current total at

Thing 1: 2 points (he liked best)
Thing 2: 2 points (we both ranked it second)
Thing 3: 2 points (I liked best)

 

[Leonardo de Garden]

Report from artist dude:

Thing:1: Strongest aroma and flavor by a long shot- sweet really.
Thing 2: Middle of the pack on aroma and flavor.
Thing 3: Least flavor and aroma, perhaps a little harsh too.

Overall though I'd say #2 and #3 were within about 70% of #1 and still very pleasant. : )

Running total:

Thing 1: 4 points
Thing 2: 3 points
Thing 3: 2 points

 

[malignant]

cant wait!

 

[Leonardo de Garden]

Three more results just in:

Dude at the river:
Ranked in order: 1,2,3
"Thing 1 had the best flavor, similar to thing 2. They all three taste organic, but thing 3 needed more flushing."

Lady at the river:
3,2,1

Liked the mildness and gentleness to things 3 and 2. Didn't feel like coughing at all. Wrote a little poem afterwards.

"Thing 1 is done,
Thing 2 is through,
Thing 3 is free
Hooray for me!"

Lady at the river's BF:
1,3,2

Liked 1 the best because it had a stronger taste, more substantial and satisfying. Thought that 3 and 2 were nice, but without the sharper edginess of 1.

Current Totals:
Thing !: 8 points
Thing 2: 5 points
Thing 3: 5 points

 

[mojavemama]

#1 was detectably fruity on the inhale; smooth and no harshness on the throat. Very nice aroma, has a berry-fruit, light citrus taste and scent, but with just a hint of floral notes on the top. I get a slight Frankincense flavor with some woody bottom notes. Sweet, but potent. Slightly creeper. Very good smoke, head high, energizing, creative thought inducing. Very tasty, and the sweetness lingers.


#2 a little more harsh, no fruit nor floral fragrance, no fruit flavor, hits the back of my throat hard. It’s a good smoke, and a mellow, head high, and also is very energizing. I missed the fruit and floral notes in this one. It also has a stronger Frankincense smell and taste to it, stronger than in #1. I detect a bit of pine scent, woody bottom notes, I’m not getting the honey-sweetness of the Frankincense, just the essence of pine topped with a hint of lemon.


#3 Fresh cut florals! Fresh berries and citrus! A bit of bite on the inhale, and on the exhale, bright floral notes come forth in abundance, with much more flavor and scent than in #2, and slightly more than #1. The scent and taste is both woody and floral, with a light, berry-citrus fruit scent and pineapple-mango taste on the top notes. There is also a subtle softening of the bright and woody flavors with a hint of vanilla, which mutes it slightly. #3 has layers of flavor, and it’s easy to detect the florals, the fruit and the woody earthiness. This is my favorite of the three.


I ran this test twice, on different days, and #3 is definitely my favorite. It has layers of flavor and scent that make it a delicious smoke, and a mellow, yet energetic high. However, I think all three samples are very good, and I liked all of them. #3 just had more layers of flavor and scent.

 

[Leonardo de Garden]

[HR][/HR] I asked her about her second place, and she liked Thing 1 next best.

Current Totals:
Thing !: 9 points
Thing 2: 5 points
Thing 3: 7 points

 

[Leonardo de Garden]

Thing 1: Was good, 2nd best.
Thing 2: Had a smooth taste, got me motivated but the high did not last long. Oh and #2 has my babbling
Thing 3: Choked me with each hit but my body is numb and a nice head high also. The favorite.

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Current Totals:
Thing !: 10 points
Thing 2: 5 points
Thing 3: 9 points