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What I am questioning foremost is the thought process behind today's skepticism when we know that there is an undeniable mission to suppress or invalidate anything unexplainable. It has become second nature in fact. Your whole life has been filled with information which casts doubt on the existence or indeed possibility of anything besides ourselves.If you think the task is to disprove rods/ufo's, then you do not understand burden of proof. The information provided is more than enough to cast doubt, more than enough to ask certain questions. I see that you have found an irrelevant way to discount every source which offered scrutiny, yet show no such suspicion about the makers and promoters of the ufo videos. You speak of skepticism like it is racism, as if skeptics can not be objective, or have some sort of agenda. Skepticism is simply systematic doubt, applying doubt until it is no longer justified. Skepticism means being loyal to logic, consistency and rational reasoning before being loyal to any certain ideology, it does not simply mean to debunk. If you look at the monsterquest video and all you can come up with is to make fun of the shows name, then you do not understand the concept of falsification. You are not simply watching provoking videos and asking questions, you seem to be positing a global conspiracy which includes everyone who disagrees. (discovery, cbs, fox, skeptics, critics)
It is no secret that as soon as anything weird happens there is a government agency trying to explain things away in a trivial way, why is that? Ever think of that? You claim that MUFON is as reputable as can be yet I provide a link to an Organization of people who are former members of MUFON who have first hand experience of being in the movement and have come to realize it has been infiltrated by disinformation experts, to the point they feel the need to regroup and create a new MUFON. They must be racists as well?
I showed with links how the morality of Popular Mechanics is dubious because of it's owners who just happen to be high ranking ex CIA. Why is that not good enough for you to apply that same doubt or question you wax lyrical about?? They even go so far as to try and do a headline piece that validated the twin towers dropping from fire and nothing else, how do you expect them to have any semblance of credibility after that.
We cannot argue over the fact that there are people tasked especially to spread disinfo, what I am most skeptical about though is how the average man is subdued via mass media to think their way, and I'm sorry to say it but when your only source of information you choose to link is via mainstream media outlets like ABC or the Discovery channel then I am naturally going to be suspicious of your thought process and who you choose to align yourself with.
With regards to monsterquest, I suggest you re read the response which was a little more than a supposed dig at the name of the program, they could call it by any name for all I care, what I cast doubt on is the possible agenda behind these programs because of the media corporations behind them.
If you choose to still have a semblance of faith for mainstream media then you are welcome to it.
I also cast doubt on what we today call rationality which seems to have replaced critical thinking with a quick unthoughtful explanation of everything because that would require more time than we are willing to allocate. Where's my Jersey shore....
Regarding the link you provide of the dome of the rock....in the viewer responses you have almost entirely a position that the article is inaccurate and does not disprove anything, what does that say about general consensus regarding the article and the people who took the time to express their opinions? I suspect you found the article in a quick search, read the first paragraph and decided it was good enough to support your point of view.
Where as I took the time to read the whole thing including the viewership responses.
My agenda is to find the truth about such matters, I am not interested in propping up a fallacy which includes the faking of ufos and aliens, how does that benefit the average man on the street?
By the way you will notice that I take the time to address all of the points you raise because I am interested in the debate for the sake of getting more insight, however I notice that you seem only to respond with a generalized response. If this is about who is right or wrong then why should we bother.