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Carne Seca
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No offense taken. I get tired of these Christian revisionists trying to mold history to fit their delusional ideology.
caregiver4204life
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your right dude, our founding fathers were learned men... i am very thankful they pursued the freedom of religion for americans.. im sure it was only an oversight when they failed to pursue a mans right to perversions.... and dude the book of the law was done away with at christs death.. on the cross.. not his birth.. and jesus never mentioned doing away with these laws... it was paul, he told us these laws were nailed to the cross.. jesus said he was not here to abolish the laws but to fullfil them... its very easy to justify perversions when quoting twisted scripture...
Carne Seca
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- His birth was the fulfillment of the Law. Even John the Baptist recognized the Jesus was without sin and had no need for baptism. Christ suffered himself to be baptized as an example for us to follow. Not because he needed it. - Matthew 3:13-15
- I never said anything about the Law of Moses being "done away with". I said he fulfilled the law. Learn to read.
- Who the fuck is justifying anything? We're talking about the Constitution not your homophobic world view.
caregiver4204life
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In 1963, the U.S. Supreme Court threw Bible reading out of the public schools. This was no small or casual development. To judge from their own writings, the Founding Fathers might well have considered this action by the Court to be an impeachable offense...
The Founders were well aware that the entire civilization of the Western world had been built on the moral and legal structure of the Bible. They knew that the Moslems (as stated in the Koran), the Jews (as stated in the Old Testament), and the Christians (as stated in both the Old and New Testaments) all considered the Bible to be the foundation of their laws and their morals.
Unfortunately, in our day too few people become profound students of the Bible. But the Founders were; and many of their most significant contributions came from the Bible...
Washington stated: "It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible...."
Thomas Jefferson said: "The Bible is the cornerstone of liberty.... I have always said, I will always say, that the studious perusal of the sacred volume will make better citizens, better fathers, better husbands...."
John Adams said: "So great is my veneration for the Bible that the earlier my children begin to read it the more confident will be my hope that they will prove useful citizens of their country and respectable members of society....."
Notice that they are not talking about any particular creed or denomination, They were talking about liberty, good government, wholesome morals, and qualities of good character....
William Blackstone pointed out in his famous
[FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana]Commentaries on the Laws of England [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana][/FONT][/FONT]that virtually the entire system of Anglo-American jurisprudence is based on biblical law. A few examples with sample citations will demonstrate his point:
Jefferson's statement that we are "endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights" comes straight out of biblical law. (Life -- Genesis 9:5-6; liberty -- Jeremiah 34:17; property -- Deuteronomy 19:14; 5:19, 21; etc.)
The concept that "all men are created equal," and that we are responsible to our Creator for the things we do, is based on biblical law. (Details are set forth in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, and in Revelation 20:12.)
The concept that no government can rule legitimately without the consent of the people is based on biblical law. (See 2 Samuel 2:4; 1 Chronicles 29:22. For an example of a leader who was rejected, see 2 Chronicles 10:16.)
The caption on the Liberty Bell which says, "Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof," comes from the Bible. (See Leviticus 25:10.)
The concept of dividing Americans into small, manageable units and setting up townships where every person could have a voice and a vote is based on biblical law. (See Deuteronomy 1:12-18.)
Compelling criminals to compensate their victims for losses or injuries is also taken from biblical law. (See Exodus 21 and 22. The only crime for which no "satisfaction" could be given was first-degree murder; the penalty was death. See Numbers 35:31.)
Practically all of the fundamental principles of morality which distinguish right from wrong were taken directly out of the Bible. (See Exodus 20:317; Deuteronomy 5:6-21; Leviticus 19:18; Matthew 7:12.)
When the Founders passed the Northwest Ordinance in 1787 (the same year they authored and signed the Constitution), they provided in that ordinance that the fundamentals of religion and the precepts of morality should be taught in the schools. Imagine how shocked the Founders would be to learn that in our day we have made Bible study in the schools illegal.
Every American should read the Bible, because it is there that you will find "the rock from which we were hewn and the pit from which we were dug."
yep, im pretty sure thats penis on your breath buck...
The Founders were well aware that the entire civilization of the Western world had been built on the moral and legal structure of the Bible. They knew that the Moslems (as stated in the Koran), the Jews (as stated in the Old Testament), and the Christians (as stated in both the Old and New Testaments) all considered the Bible to be the foundation of their laws and their morals.
Unfortunately, in our day too few people become profound students of the Bible. But the Founders were; and many of their most significant contributions came from the Bible...
Washington stated: "It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible...."
Thomas Jefferson said: "The Bible is the cornerstone of liberty.... I have always said, I will always say, that the studious perusal of the sacred volume will make better citizens, better fathers, better husbands...."
John Adams said: "So great is my veneration for the Bible that the earlier my children begin to read it the more confident will be my hope that they will prove useful citizens of their country and respectable members of society....."
Notice that they are not talking about any particular creed or denomination, They were talking about liberty, good government, wholesome morals, and qualities of good character....
William Blackstone pointed out in his famous
[FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana]Commentaries on the Laws of England [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana][/FONT][/FONT]that virtually the entire system of Anglo-American jurisprudence is based on biblical law. A few examples with sample citations will demonstrate his point:
Jefferson's statement that we are "endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights" comes straight out of biblical law. (Life -- Genesis 9:5-6; liberty -- Jeremiah 34:17; property -- Deuteronomy 19:14; 5:19, 21; etc.)
The concept that "all men are created equal," and that we are responsible to our Creator for the things we do, is based on biblical law. (Details are set forth in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, and in Revelation 20:12.)
The concept that no government can rule legitimately without the consent of the people is based on biblical law. (See 2 Samuel 2:4; 1 Chronicles 29:22. For an example of a leader who was rejected, see 2 Chronicles 10:16.)
The caption on the Liberty Bell which says, "Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof," comes from the Bible. (See Leviticus 25:10.)
The concept of dividing Americans into small, manageable units and setting up townships where every person could have a voice and a vote is based on biblical law. (See Deuteronomy 1:12-18.)
Compelling criminals to compensate their victims for losses or injuries is also taken from biblical law. (See Exodus 21 and 22. The only crime for which no "satisfaction" could be given was first-degree murder; the penalty was death. See Numbers 35:31.)
Practically all of the fundamental principles of morality which distinguish right from wrong were taken directly out of the Bible. (See Exodus 20:317; Deuteronomy 5:6-21; Leviticus 19:18; Matthew 7:12.)
When the Founders passed the Northwest Ordinance in 1787 (the same year they authored and signed the Constitution), they provided in that ordinance that the fundamentals of religion and the precepts of morality should be taught in the schools. Imagine how shocked the Founders would be to learn that in our day we have made Bible study in the schools illegal.
Every American should read the Bible, because it is there that you will find "the rock from which we were hewn and the pit from which we were dug."
yep, im pretty sure thats penis on your breath buck...
Carne Seca
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Taken from here: http://www.constitutionweekusa.com/ A christian historical revisionist website.
A copy and paste job too. Plagiary is frowned upon. It's common courtesy to cite your source. Especially when you copy and paste the entire document.
And you can shove your homophobic slur right up that puckered sphincter of yours.
A copy and paste job too. Plagiary is frowned upon. It's common courtesy to cite your source. Especially when you copy and paste the entire document.
And you can shove your homophobic slur right up that puckered sphincter of yours.
Krayven Sumhead
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How dare the stupid American electorate!!!
BullShit Mountian is beginning to crumble!!!
It's beginning to drop shit on their faces!!
Oh, the humanity!!
Fox is funny, but Rush is hilarious!!
BullShit Mountian is beginning to crumble!!!
It's beginning to drop shit on their faces!!
Oh, the humanity!!
Fox is funny, but Rush is hilarious!!
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman
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sad to see rove held back the tears
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman
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way to get your playbook used against you rove!
Carne Seca
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No one does. There are no original texts. Even the oldest biblical text that survives today is a copy of a copy of a copy, ad infinitum. The dead sea scrolls show that the Torah is pretty damned accurate to this day. But the New Testament? There are a plethora of text that never made into the canonized version of the New Testament. There are several different versions that have books our Bible doesn't have.
Krayven Sumhead
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Murdoch thought someone had pissed in his Cheerios yesterday, I'll bet.
The Koch bloods, too.
The Koch bloods, too.
Carne Seca
Well-Known Member
He should be happy. God meant for this to happen.
caregiver4204life
Member
sure it was a copy and paste.. does this make the quotes false... or was that another means of ignoring the facts... this nation was once one nation under GOD... no longer... ive watched as my kids were indoctrinated in schools and now im watching my grandkids being indoctrinated... its easy to sway the thoughts of the young when you can control their minds 8hrs aday... this saddens me greatly.. you may never suffer the wrath of GOD in this life but im sure you and buck will in the afterlife.... and yes my paste was taken from constitutionweekusa.... im suprised you visit that site...
Carne Seca
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You're fucking crazy. That cut and paste job is full of conjecture, speculation and taking quotes out of context to fit your revisionist agenda. It is utter BULLSHIT.
Carne Seca
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“Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of an established religion tends to make the clergy unresponsive to their own people, and leads to corruption within religion itself. Erecting the 'wall of separation between church and state,' therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.”
― Thomas Jefferson
“The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.”
― James Madison
“Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but it is always the strongly marked feature of all religions established by law.”
― Thomas Paine, The Age Of Reason
“Give to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself - that is my doctrine.”
― Thomas Paine, The Age Of Reason
“One good schoolmaster is of more use than a hundred priests.”
― Thomas Paine, The Age Of Reason
― Thomas Jefferson
“The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.”
― James Madison
“Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but it is always the strongly marked feature of all religions established by law.”
― Thomas Paine, The Age Of Reason
“Give to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself - that is my doctrine.”
― Thomas Paine, The Age Of Reason
“One good schoolmaster is of more use than a hundred priests.”
― Thomas Paine, The Age Of Reason
kpmarine
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So you never did explain. Do you crusade for all the laws of the old testament? I always see christians with their fresh haircuts, clean shaves, and cotton/poly blend clothing, even though all three are a violation in the same book you were quoting earlier. Do you eat meat and dairy together? Do you get mad that the government considers killing someone who tries to convert you to be murder? Surely, that goes against the bible, seeing as it commands you to kill all people who try to convert you. Do you feel the abolition of slavery was wrong, since the bible approved slave ownership? I don't see crusades for the rest of mosaic law, yet you people get so caught up on two people of the same sex getting married.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Great Scott ... as I live and breathe, a dominionist. This, gentlemen, is the pure form. Notice that the parasite has developed its ovary, and has rewired the host's brain to broadcast the fertile spores. cn
Fungus Gnat
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"Explanations given to Republicans must be in the form of Bible quotes, racial stereotypes, or else accompanied by a bribe to be understood."