Which of these strains should I grow?

[Jogro]

From what I see, you must pay the 20 dollars shipping for him to gauantee it, if you pick the 5+ dollar shipping it says no reshipping if lost in mail.

That's right.

Sannie was having a lot of losses sending packages to the USA, probably because people were taking advantage of his no questions asked reshipping policy to get "free" reshipments.

He instituted the package tracking and extra fee in the last year to reduce this scamming, apparently with good success.

 

[m420p]

f$ck man, i just had a great reply and just erased it all, eff me, lol...

but yah, sannie just put the $20 thing up to do tracked shipping as too many people were scamming him and saying their gear never showed..
i'm too pissed to get into the rest of it though, lol..

lol, I have definitely done that before. I don't blame him though, 20 dollars isn't much off seedbank shipping prices and the fact its guaranteed makes it worth it to me.

I'm going to buy some of Sannie's JH f7 here pretty quick but don't know the best payment method? I see he takes Credit Cards and acc. transfer but I don't know which is best. I have a checking acct. and debit card. What do you think?

 

[racerboy71]

lol, I have definitely done that before. I don't blame him though, 20 dollars isn't much off seedbank shipping prices and the fact its guaranteed makes it worth it to me.

I'm going to buy some of Sannie's JH f7 here pretty quick but don't know the best payment method? I see he takes Credit Cards and acc. transfer but I don't know which is best. I have a checking acct. and debit card. What do you think?

is he taking cc's again?? i haven't checked him out in a bit but i know he wasn't accepting them for a lil bit there.. i always pay everything with cc, no real issues other then my cc getting hacked a day after an attitude order awhile ago..

 

[m420p]

Sure. I think I can make this pretty simple.

If you take two parents and cross them, using normal genetics terminology, the offspring are called the F1 ("familial") generation.

Cross two F1 plants and you get F2s. Cross two F2s, you get F3s, etc

Sannie's F7 is the result of seven generations of crosses, starting with original Sensi Seeds Jack Herer ten years ago, and doing extensive selection each generation to try and retain the best flavor, potency, and yield.

If you want a Jack Herer strain, I don't think you'll go wrong with this one.

Ya, racerboy71 cleared it up for me. Me and a couple buddies had a smoke session and talked for a hour or two about seeds, strains, breeding, and what you just explained. Was a good discussion. But, It's good to see another Sannie JH f7 supporter and to see another persons explanation.

 

[racerboy71]

That's right.

Sannie was having a lot of losses sending packages to the USA, probably because people were taking advantage of his no questions asked reshipping policy to get "free" reshipments.

He instituted the package tracking and extra fee in the last year to reduce this scamming, apparently with good success.

the thing i will say is that the one order i ever got snagged was an order from sannies, which is crazy because his stealth is friggin crazy good, always has been..
the thing is he ships out of the netherlands where a lot of other banks come out of say the uk somewhere.. the customs are obviously not retarded and know all too well what sort of packages tend to get shipped out of the netherlands, so they tend to inspect shit much harder then packages that come out of other parts of the world.. i'd imagine it's always been that way, always will.. therefore more of his gear simply gets snagged simply for where it's being shipped from imvho..
my order was over a month, pm'ed sannie, he didn't ask any questions and just resent my entire order.. exactly one week later my package arrived.. the very next day went to get the mail, and had another package from sannies, they used to be easy to spot if you knew what to look for. anyhoo's, went to open the second package and saw that it had been taped up.. inside in place of my beans was a lovely keepsake letter from customs telling me if i wanted i could come on down to their office and pick up my contraband.. i passed, they kept my gear and moved on..

so yeah, this was pretty much my reply earlier, i do see how his gear gets popped more often than other places as it's happened to me, but his no questions asked policy opened him up to scammers who were out for free gear, so the $20 thing is now in effect..

 

[m420p]

is he taking cc's again?? i haven't checked him out in a bit but i know he wasn't accepting them for a lil bit there.. i always pay everything with cc, no real issues other then my cc getting hacked a day after an attitude order awhile ago..

I don't have a legit cc, just a debit. Will he take it? Idk what I should do. these are his payment options.

	Credit card		Online payment (maximum order is 300 euro-5% surcharge)
	Bank transfer		International transfer by IBAN/SWIFT code
	Cash in enveloppe		Don't forget to include the order number

 

[racerboy71]

I don't have a legit cc, just a debit. Will he take it? Idk what I should do. these are his payment options.

	Credit card		Online payment (maximum order is 300 euro-5% surcharge)
	Bank transfer		International transfer by IBAN/SWIFT code
	Cash in enveloppe		Don't forget to include the order number

yah, sorry, i only have a debit card as well, not a real cc, but they're all the same so long as say it's a visa debit card, they're pretty much the same thing as a regular cc, instead of paying on credit with a credit card, they obviously just take it right out of your bank account, although i'm sure you red d know this..

 

[m420p]

yah, sorry, i only have a debit card as well, not a real cc, but they're all the same so long as say it's a visa debit card, they're pretty much the same thing as a regular cc, instead of paying on credit with a credit card, they obviously just take it right out of your bank account, although i'm sure you red d know this..

Mine is Mastercard, don't tell me thats a problem... lol

 

[racerboy71]

Mine is Mastercard, don't tell me thats a problem... lol

nah, i just meant not as in say greendot, cheapo brand, brand x debit card sort of thing, so long as it's one of the major's i don't see a problem.. sometimes discovery's aren't taken all over though, but m/c is the same as visa imo..

 

[m420p]

nah, i just meant not as in say greendot, cheapo brand, brand x debit card sort of thing, so long as it's one of the major's i don't see a problem.. sometimes discovery's aren't taken all over though, but m/c is the same as visa imo..

Thanks for your help racerboy71, I buy stuff online all the time just never out of country before. I tell ya what, I don't know where I would be as a grower if I never joined this forum, Thanks a lot to every one who has contributed to this thread and helping me out. I'll smoke one for ya. I'm off to purchase some Sandie's Jack Herer F7 seeds. Maybe I'll do a RDWC SCROG Sandie's JH F7 Journal...

 

[racerboy71]

Thanks for your help racerboy71, I buy stuff online all the time just never out of country before. I tell ya what, I don't know where I would be as a grower if I never joined this forum, Thanks a lot to every one who has contributed to this thread and helping me out. I'll smoke one for ya. I'm off to purchase some Sandie's Jack Herer F7 seeds. Maybe I'll do a RDWC SCROG Sandie's JH F7 Journal...

oh, btw, be prepared.. some banks will automatically decline any orders outside of the us.. i guess it depends on how many fraudulent charges they get.. my regular bank card usually goes through all the time, my unemployment visa just got declined the other day from the tude, had to use my other card and it went right through..

 

[m420p]

oh, btw, be prepared.. some banks will automatically decline any orders outside of the us.. i guess it depends on how many fraudulent charges they get.. my regular bank card usually goes through all the time, my unemployment visa just got declined the other day from the tude, had to use my other card and it went right through..

Thanks for the heads up, My order just went through with a invoice saying paid so seems like I'm good. Mastercard was actually the only other card they accepted besides Visa.

 

[m420p]

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[hazey grapes]

*tsk tsk tsk* sharing of any seedbank's stealth methods is considered bad form.

 

[m420p]

*tsk tsk tsk* sharing of any seedbank's stealth methods is considered bad form.

My bad, but honestly, I think it could only help with Sannie's rep. I mean, I seen someone show a picture of the how their seeds came and it took him over 5 minutes to find them in a cardboard box, it was very clever stealth and of course I won't say how but my point is no one mentioned anything about him sharing their stealth methods so i never really thought it would be a problem. I'll remove it but not without a laugh, no offense, just how I feel. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Jogro]

the thing i will say is that the one order i ever got snagged was an order from sannies, which is crazy because his stealth is friggin crazy good, always has been..
the thing is he ships out of the netherlands where a lot of other banks come out of say the uk somewhere.. the customs are obviously not retarded and know all too well what sort of packages tend to get shipped out of the netherlands, so they tend to inspect shit much harder then packages that come out of other parts of the world.. i'd imagine it's always been that way, always will.. therefore more of his gear simply gets snagged simply for where it's being shipped from imvho..
my order was over a month, pm'ed sannie, he didn't ask any questions and just resent my entire order.. exactly one week later my package arrived.. the very next day went to get the mail, and had another package from sannies, they used to be easy to spot if you knew what to look for. anyhoo's, went to open the second package and saw that it had been taped up.. inside in place of my beans was a lovely keepsake letter from customs telling me if i wanted i could come on down to their office and pick up my contraband.. i passed, they kept my gear and moved on..

so yeah, this was pretty much my reply earlier, i do see how his gear gets popped more often than other places as it's happened to me, but his no questions asked policy opened him up to scammers who were out for free gear, so the $20 thing is now in effect..

Had same experience, and agree 100% with above.

For obvious reasons, small packages from Holland get extra scrutiny by customs.

Only thing I'll add given then low cost for the ceeds, and the fact that Sannie always throws in a few freebees (which are usually awesome in their own right), $20 shipping is still a great deal.

Also, FWIW, Sannie will accept cash in US dollars.

 

[althor]

My bad, but honestly, I think it could only help with Sannie's rep. I mean, I seen someone show a picture of the how their seeds came and it took him over 5 minutes to find them in a cardboard box, it was very clever stealth and of course I won't say how but my point is no one mentioned anything about him sharing their stealth methods so i never really thought it would be a problem. I'll remove it but not without a laugh, no offense, just how I feel. Thanks for the heads up.

It took me even longer than 5 minutes to find mine. I thought I had gotten ripped at first. It is crazy good stealth.