xx440kushxx
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damn where the fuck are you finding o.c.'s at? theyre banned in ohio. only percocets are around.
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canndo
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Actually, if done correctly you can render them as good as IR for eating or snorting - shooting however is out of the question and smoking is likely not going to be very nice.
Fiend4The$
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Smoke some dank ass Kush and take a few Xanny bars. 
Fiend4The$
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No offence to anyone but that is some crack head shit.
~Dankster~420
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Yeah, wish I would've NEVER seen it done! But yeah, I've seen it cooked in a microwave before. Also seen them cooked and also the opana's 2 the same way. The heat breaks down
All that shit you don't want, but you gotta be carefull not to add to much heat, or it will
Cook your dope away! Anyways, nogh said! Later.
brandon.
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It depends what you mean by correctly. The correct way (and best way) is to use a complex solvent. You can use simple and medium solvents, although they yield less results. Most people aren't going to have complex solvents on hand to break down the time release.
If you look on google there are numerous tek's that imply you can break the time release via different methods (heating/freezing, etc) but this does nothing for the time release itself. All this does is remove the anti-abuse filter. Anti-abuse =/= time release. You can find the documentation on Purdue's website that they submitted to the FDA on extracting oxycodone from OP labeled oxycontin.
I apologize if that's what you meant in the first place, I just see everyone and there mother telling people the simple tek's break the time release.
Not saying it doesn't make them 1,000 times more effective though, because it really does.
brandon.
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I just posted a reply above that explains that. It does in fact help get rid of the anti-abuse filter (the stuff that turns your nose into glue) but nothing for the time release.
~Dankster~420
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Damn I hated that gluey shit! When I was a addict I was getting the real deal oc 80's & then they switched to those damn op's! Well, the oc was my doc & that turned me tottaly off of them & was still looking for that oxy type high & turned to herion! Bad choice! That's the worst dts I ever went through! That & methadone to get off the damn herion! I am SO glad all that's over with now! I wouldn't wish that life on anyone! I started off like a lot of people, doing it on the weekends, then every other day, or for a "treat" to myself, because hey I had a rough week at work type bullshit you tell yourself! After about a good week of straight doing them, I was hooked! And it was more so physical then mental for me with the oxy & herion! Needless to say, after 5 yrs clean & thousands of dollars to a metadone clinic, I can honestly say I am clean! Got my white chip from NA to proove it! Lol
Well guys y'all have a great day! Happy 420 everyone! Later.
MaineWeed
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For going 10yrs and still not fully hooked your the 1 out of a 1000 that has gotten away with it....god bless you and hope you stay that way.
Yeah I've wtched people nuke the OP's and then snort them..but I myself after doing OC's just can't bring myself to do the OP's like that, but some people will do anything for a buzz.
Yeah I've wtched people nuke the OP's and then snort them..but I myself after doing OC's just can't bring myself to do the OP's like that, but some people will do anything for a buzz.
if hes not fully hooked, why here asking how to use it? your mind will tell your body whatever it takes, as long as your getting more opiates. opiates take a hold of your whole being, with complete control. the severity of it is something only an addict of opiates could understand. i love the woman i'm with and have for 25 years, but heroin, i lust for every fukin day of my life( 24 years clean). don't sweat it bro, you know your not hooked...peace
willowpinnerblunt
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You are really free basing pills? damn bro might be time for some help...
beuffer420
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All I know is addiction sucks! I shot crack and dope together for about 7 years used lemon juice to keep the crack broke down. Hurts like a mofo though if you miss. And there is not a day that goes by that my mind doesn't revert to thinking about it. But I have found a better life so the pengillum always ways to the good now. I don't think anyone's preaching here to anyone, were just sharing our experiences.
In a way I like this thread because just to recite to yourself writing this down is therapy in itself! It's true that if you've never withdrawn it's just hard to conceive what it truly is. My mother to this day is still baffled at how that stuff can take over. All reality is it does take you over, completely ruins your life and just plain sucks.
I now love life and through my trials and tribulations have learned who I am and what I stand for. A gift in disguise? That's for u as the user to figure out! All how you see the glass
In a way I like this thread because just to recite to yourself writing this down is therapy in itself! It's true that if you've never withdrawn it's just hard to conceive what it truly is. My mother to this day is still baffled at how that stuff can take over. All reality is it does take you over, completely ruins your life and just plain sucks.
I now love life and through my trials and tribulations have learned who I am and what I stand for. A gift in disguise? That's for u as the user to figure out! All how you see the glass
~Dankster~420
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Right on bueffer! I do find it good therapy! Your right. It really does help to talkk about it. I had to talk to a counsular everyday for over 3 years! And still attend Na on a regular. And like you said there isn't a day that doesn't go by 4 me either that my mind doesn't think about it in some way shape or form! And its weird as hell as to the people,places & things that we see on a daily basis that atleast remind me of doing dope! For the entire 1st month I had got off it I could NOT look at a straw! Hell they didn't even have them in the rehab I was sent to!! But yeah, music is the worlds worst to! But we have conqured it! We've gotton that "monkey" of our backs,lol.
And we can keep it up to! I honestly feel that it is in a person genes! And I know
Its because some people have a additive personality, but I swear I think its in our genes!
Because I don't know about you guys, but my parents grew up through the 60's & 70's, & my
Dad has told me nemuerous party days of his & my mothers! Lol. Either from tripping on acid
To smoking chronic,eating shrooms, you name it! My dad could make the best acid I ever got my hands on! god rest his soul! And you know its weird. I lost my father to "drug addiction" & damned if I didn't still end up doing the shit! I guess I was trying to fill that "void" & drugs was the key to filling the void I thought then. But now I know that's not the key. Well guys, y'all have a wonderfull day! Later
And we can keep it up to! I honestly feel that it is in a person genes! And I know
Its because some people have a additive personality, but I swear I think its in our genes!
Because I don't know about you guys, but my parents grew up through the 60's & 70's, & my
Dad has told me nemuerous party days of his & my mothers! Lol. Either from tripping on acid
To smoking chronic,eating shrooms, you name it! My dad could make the best acid I ever got my hands on!
god rest his soul! And you know its weird. I lost my father to "drug addiction" & damned if I didn't still end up doing the shit! I guess I was trying to fill that "void" & drugs was the key to filling the void I thought then. But now I know that's not the key. Well guys, y'all have a wonderfull day! Later
hugaddiction
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Thanks to the posters that told a bit of their personal experience stories. I know its not what the post was originated for, but its good to hear the survivor stories from opiate addiction, not everyone wins the battle. Congrats, and glad your still here.
canndo
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From my experience the matrix IS the time release. Simply applying heat in the form of microwave does not defeat the matrix. That plastic stuff has oxycodone embeded within and it will disolve very slowly in stomach acid and in the small intestines. The point of heating the matrix is in order for one to blend in a fine highly water soluable element such as a sugar. When this is done, the matrix is physicaly embeded with water soluable components and then chopped or ground as finely as possible. The matrix is now no longer able to bind to itself when wet and so it falls apart and the matrix particles are too small to resist the heat and moisture in either your nasal passages or your stomach. They still exist in small bits and those bits will not dissolve quickly enough to make injection reasonable - although I have heard of some going through the process and then leaching the oxy out from there and filtering it. Smoking is another matter, now, not only are you inhaling the plastic vapor, you are inhaling burnt sugar - while I am sure it will work, it is particularly unwise.
this method works with any of the new matrix time release opiates - the real trick is to be able to bring that "dough" up beyond normal microwave temperatures, to just below the smokepoint of the stuff. then the crushed water soluable element is mixed as thouroughly as possible into the "dough" when this is accomplished, the dough is mashed as flat as possible and then scored as finely as possible with a razor. It is then allowed to cool - now that matrix is no longer pliable and can be broken or chippped - one way is to put the little scored pancake into a clean coffee grinder. Although the resulting granuals don't stay near the spinning blade for very long, if you did your scoring correctly you will have a fairly consistant, fairly fine pink powder to do with as you see fit. The results will melt/dissolve very quickly in water and will leave almost no residual in your nose. If you used too much sugar in your formulation, you might get some nasal drip but even that won't last more than 15 or 20 minutes. - oh, and your traditional granulated table sugar will work very poorly.
this method works with any of the new matrix time release opiates - the real trick is to be able to bring that "dough" up beyond normal microwave temperatures, to just below the smokepoint of the stuff. then the crushed water soluable element is mixed as thouroughly as possible into the "dough" when this is accomplished, the dough is mashed as flat as possible and then scored as finely as possible with a razor. It is then allowed to cool - now that matrix is no longer pliable and can be broken or chippped - one way is to put the little scored pancake into a clean coffee grinder. Although the resulting granuals don't stay near the spinning blade for very long, if you did your scoring correctly you will have a fairly consistant, fairly fine pink powder to do with as you see fit. The results will melt/dissolve very quickly in water and will leave almost no residual in your nose. If you used too much sugar in your formulation, you might get some nasal drip but even that won't last more than 15 or 20 minutes. - oh, and your traditional granulated table sugar will work very poorly.
~Dankster~420
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It seems 2 me that if someone is willing to do all that, then they need help!Just my opinon. Don't kick it. Later.
canndo
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Takes far longer to explain it than to do it - bout 5 or 6 minutes actually - I don't advise anyone to do this I am simply setting records straight whenever I am able. However, let us talk about someone who is "willing" to go through the trouble to spend 3 months - hundreds if not thousands of dollars and who knows how much time - growing marijuana indoors for their own personal use, chemicals, lights, pumps, foliar sprays, ph meters, ro water, and all the rest. If someone is willing to do all that - do they need help as well?
MrEDuck
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Some harm reduction inspired by this post.
Please never ever inject biologically sourced fluids like lemon juice. A tiny amount of white vinegar will get freebases into solution and doesn't require you mainline whatever bacteria and or fungus might be growing in the lemon juice. Endocarditis is bad.
Please never ever inject biologically sourced fluids like lemon juice. A tiny amount of white vinegar will get freebases into solution and doesn't require you mainline whatever bacteria and or fungus might be growing in the lemon juice. Endocarditis is bad.