Unemployment rate drops GOP says that is bad news

[ChesusRice]

If you have a marketable skill, you can get a decent job. If you don't, well, you're screwed. You can get a job, but it will be low paying. People won't accept a low paying job if there is a better alternative (unemployment, disability, what ever) even if it pays less than working. Can't blame em'.

I took a job after my first layoff that paid 5 bucks an hour less than what I was making. Boohoo you dont always get what you want

 

[Red1966]

No I wont. I'll just work hard until I retire like my parents before me and their parents before them. We never had a great amount of wealth to pass down to our heirs. We never were born with a silver spoon in our mouths that entitled us to look down upon the unwashed masses, and scheme on how to fuck them over

Combined. A couple hundred k between the wife and me. Plus I will inherit everything from my parents if i live that long and that is a few million in real estate

So, apparently, you DID have a silver spoon in your mouth.

 

[ChesusRice]

So, apparently, you DID have a silver spoon in your mouth.

Nope
born in a 3rd floor apartment in Chicago to a 18 year old single mother
Me and my mom lived with my grandmother for the first 6 years of my life

 

[Red1966]

I took a job after my first layoff that paid 5 bucks an hour less than what I was making. Boohoo you dont always get what you want

I agree..........

 

[Red1966]

Nope born in a 3rd floor apartment in Chicago to a 18 year old single mother Me and my mom lived with my grandmother for the first 6 years of my life

But she has millions in real estate? Go figure.

 

[ChesusRice]

But she has millions in real estate? Go figure.

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Yes my grandmothers house, my grandmothers old house. My mom and dads house. Ands 3 lots of lakeshore
property that my grandfather (2nd one) bought in the 50s for a couple grand each

 

[Red1966]

, Yes my grandmothers house, my grandmothers old house. My mom and dads house. Ands 3 lots of lakeshore property that my grandfather (2nd one) bought in the 50s for a couple grand each

Sounds like you're a 1%er to me. You're not paying your fair share, you greedy capitalist!

 

[Harrekin]

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Yes my grandmothers house, my grandmothers old house. My mom and dads house. Ands 3 lots of lakeshore
property that my grandfather (2nd one) bought in the 50s for a couple grand each

"Your mom and dads house"...but you were apparently born to a single mother and lived in your Granny's apartment in Chicago?

Cool story bro.

 

[NoDrama]

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Yes my grandmothers house, my grandmothers old house. My mom and dads house. Ands 3 lots of lakeshore
property that my grandfather (2nd one) bought in the 50s for a couple grand each

LMAO guess what? The estate tax is coming back. I can hardly wait to see the $500,000 bill your gonna get when Momma kicks it. Here is what is gonna happen since the Death tax is re-instituted on Jan 1st 2013. You're gonna sell all that property, pay the government the tax you owe, and be left with one small parcel for your self. Might want to get a charitable organization set up and have mother leave it all to the organization, the only way I can see you beating the taxes that your gonna have to pay now.

Good luck Sucker!

BTW sounds more like a few hundred grand in real estate to me, unless these places are palatial or very large somehow.

 

[Harrekin]

LMAO guess what? The estate tax is coming back. I can hardly wait to see the $500,000 bill your gonna get when Momma kicks it. Here is what is gonna happen since the Death tax is re-instituted on Jan 1st 2013. You're gonna sell all that property, pay the government the tax you owe, and be left with one small parcel for your self. Might want to get a charitable organization set up and have mother leave it all to the organization, the only way I can see you beating the taxes that your gonna have to pay now.

Good luck Sucker!

BTW sounds more like a few hundred grand in real estate to me, unless these places are palatial or very large somehow.

It's ok, Chesus knows he "didn't build that" anyways.

 

[ChesusRice]

"Your mom and dads house"...but you were apparently born to a single mother and lived in your Granny's apartment in Chicago?

Cool story bro.

Thanks. Yeah My "dad" is actually my step dad
My real father still lives in chicago and I recently met and found I had 2 half brothers. One of them is 3 months younger than me

 

[Truncheon]

Friday's jobs report, which showed unemployment falling to its lowest point since 2008, was still indication that President Barack Obama's economic policies were failing, according to Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus.

A person has to be pretty gullible to accept that our economy has improved. I think everyone is pretty skeptical of these recent sub-8% employment numbers, particularly in the backwash of Hurricane Sandy. It's just so implausible.

 

[blacksun]

A person has to be pretty gullible to accept that our economy has improved. I think everyone is pretty skeptical of these recent sub-8% employment numbers, particularly in the backwash of Hurricane Sandy. It's just so implausible.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Dems don't want you to think.

They just want you to lay back and take it until it feels warm and numb.

The economy is grrrrreat! And it's all because of messiah obama! We promises!

 

[Harrekin]

Thanks. Yeah My "dad" is actually my step dad
My real father still lives in chicago and I recently met and found I had 2 half brothers. One of them is 3 months younger than me

Fair enough.

I just thought you were bullshitting and tripped up over yourself.

Im not one to question others family life.

 

[ginwilly]

A person has to be pretty gullible to accept that our economy has improved. I think everyone is pretty skeptical of these recent sub-8% employment numbers, particularly in the backwash of Hurricane Sandy. It's just so implausible.

The biggest concern I have is the contraction of the amount of workers. We had 350k leave the work force last month and they can't all be baby boomers. If true, we should celebrate because that's 350k jobs that just opened up. Retired people don't take the jobs with them. How many of the new jobs added in the private sector are because of government contracts? I heard John Sullivan say 600k out of the last 800k but I haven't been able to verify it. If true, that's really really discouraging in a way, encouraging in another. If it's more government expansion, boo. If it's governments turning to the private sector to more efficiently run trash pick up and such, then yay.

I just know that I can't find any data on this but haven't spent too much effort.

 

[Red1966]

I heard a figure that 73% of the new jobs were government, on several networks.

 

[ChesusRice]

I heard a figure that 73% of the new jobs were government, on several networks.

https://www.google.com/search?q=73%+of+new+jobs+goverment
Repition of of false stats doesnt make it factual


In fact this is not the first time we've seen conservatives retreat to household data because they could use it to paint a darker picture of the economy. In fact the right loves to retreat to an alternative source nearly every time. They'll tell you the "real unemployment" is 14.4% or more right now and not 7.7% using U-6 "underemployment" to trump U-3 "unemployment." U-6 is always about 1.8 times the value of U-3 so when U-3 is high like 7.7 then of course U-6 is going to be 1.8 times worse. They also used to cite Gallup's unemployment figures because they were higher than BLS U-3 measurements. Of course once Gallup's figure went lower that source disappeared. It never ends.
So what does the more useful measurement from the establishment data tell us about jobs created? Since June just 15,000 new jobs have been created in the public sector while 818,000 have been created in the private sector. That's 2%, not 73%. In fact during President Obama's entire time in office there has been a loss of 614,000 government jobs while there has been an increase of 905,000 private sector jobs. But how does that line up with household data over the same time frame? The survey finds that there are 2.1 million more private sector employees now than when Obama took office and 553,000 fewer public sector employees.
All this means that 100% of the new jobs under Obama have been in the private sector. Remember this next time you see a conservative talking about how the Obama administration has only grown government payrolls.