Hans Panel 56w triband led(65w total)>VS<Indagro 100 full spec induction(105w)+FIGHT!

[jubiare]

Perhaps it's sun burn- too much of one tight band of spectrums?

Mmmm I appreciate your efforts in this. But it shouldn't be that and it wouldn't look like that.

Monochromatic colours doesn't necessarily mean thight band. Cree xpe and the rebel 660 are fantastic because even being monochromatic their band isn't as narrow. It has been noted that narrower monochromatic chips (like some Chinese) do tend to burn and/or plants don't respond nicely to that. A 660 can range from 640 to 670+ or be as narrow as 655-665.

There is fewer people on riu can chime in on this, but you have to understand there is business involved... over at ic, if you ll bring that up you'd see

In fact, you notice some companies offering reds 630, and than an other chip 640 and 650 and so on...

You don't really want that, it's better a larger band monochromatic... especially with deep blue and far reds... look at those panels being more burning than others

 

[Eraserhead]

Correct. Basically the mould is a machine with custom fitted parts to stamp out the metal case.

Might use lenses, might not. I am going to test with/without in many ° to see what has the highest PAR average over every part of the intended footprint. I was talking with the folks at Heliopto and they make lenses that they say will work good for me, but they only go up to 50°. http://www.heliopto.com/files/HELIXEON_Lens DS-06-09-01.pdf

Any idea which of your 2 lights are performing better? I haven't paid too much attention to plasma lighting, seems though they are getting better than they were last year.

Sounds great EH (2 models=2 different moulds??".........still no secondary lenses on these new models right??

ILP's cheesedream @ 48 days since germ under the Hans led panel(65watts):

View attachment 2431931View attachment 2431932View attachment 2431933View attachment 2431934View attachment 2431935View attachment 2431936View attachment 2431937well what I initially though was a slight overfeed has actually turned out to be a phosphorous deficiency(classic P def IMO/ started as tip necrosis and spread along the edge/ affected leaves have purple stems/moving from older to newer growth/etc.) .....not adding anything yet(I just top dressed w high P-K ferts!), will give her another dose of plain aerated water/ check the ph to confirm it's not a lock/ see if it gets worse....It is a mobile/macro element def so it should move fast throughout the plant's leaves....if major spread occurs after the plain water ill give her a ACT/flower fert feeding.......also bent the main cola down again.........Anyone think it's something different???comments welcome!!!

PS's anubis girls @ 43 days since germ under the inda-gro par 100(105 watts):

View attachment 2431938View attachment 2431939View attachment 2431940View attachment 2431941View attachment 2431942View attachment 2431943tied down stretchy bitch one more time and no signs of anything wrong....granted they are smaller than the cheese and where given the same fert doses/will see

View attachment 2431946View attachment 2431949View attachment 2431951View attachment 2431952...18th day of 13/11...........be safe and happy growing RIU

 

[hyroot]

Correct. Basically the mould is a machine with custom fitted parts to stamp out the metal case.

I wonder how much the laid that stampe out the molds would cost to have your own. I know that record laids cost over $20,000 then the laids that stamp out laids cost over a $100,000

 

[Eraserhead]

I paid pretty close to 20k for the mould for the AF600, and that doesn't include the parts that I supply myself. But the price would vary from one factory to the next, a few places wanted over 40k, while others offered to do it for free if they could own the complete rights to it, which would only basically amount to me designing a light for the place for free, and then selling it for them.

Cidly offered the worst deal, they wanted me to pay 30k, and they wanted to have the rights to sell the lights to customers outside the US, and they insisted I use their LEDs and drivers, and I wasn't on board with that at all.

I wonder how much the laid that stampe out the molds would cost to have your own. I know that record laids cost over $20,000 then the laids that stamp out laids cost over a $100,000

 

[foreverflyhi]

Beautiful!

 

[chazbolin]

Early indications at week 1 on the IG side by side are that the Pfr switch 730/660 combo is outproducing 52:32 the straight 420 side.

Check out the day 8 notes and the high res gallery @ http://www.inda-gro.com/cam.html

A better mousetrap to come perhaps.

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Those are some happy looking plants! I cant wait to see how the next few weeks unfold!!!

Happy Growing!

Thank you brother

Perhaps it's sun burn- too much of one tight band of spectrums?

I don't think so pet..........the fat bitch is just hungry IMO......ate up all the P that I top dressed 18 days ago.....maybe

Correct. Basically the mould is a machine with custom fitted parts to stamp out the metal case.

Might use lenses, might not. I am going to test with/without in many ° to see what has the highest PAR average over every part of the intended footprint. I was talking with the folks at Heliopto and they make lenses that they say will work good for me, but they only go up to 50°. http://www.heliopto.com/files/HELIXEON_Lens%20%20DS-06-09-01.pdf

Any idea which of your 2 lights are performing better? I haven't paid too much attention to plasma lighting, seems though they are getting better than they were last year.

I vote for NO secondary lenses......ha..........I sure they will be top notch again.........Have no idea on which panel is better/ different strains and such....I just want to see how they perform with such little wattage........

Beautiful!

Thanks............can't wait to see those great strains of yours finish...GSC yummy

Early indications at week 1 on the IG side by side are that the Pfr switch 730/660 combo is outproducing 52:32 the straight 420 side.

Check out the day 8 notes and the high res gallery @ http://www.inda-gro.com/cam.html

A better mousetrap to come perhaps.

It should be quite a difference when all done...........you'll see how important 660nm is to plant growth/bloom..



ILP's cheesedream @ 50 days since germ under the Hans panel led(65watts):

P def is spreading like a Mofo ....I supercropped the shit out of this fatty/no choice.....will give her warm plain aerated water tomorrow and check ph/ and her signs for a couple more days before adding more P-K ferts....I can't even stick my finger more than an inch into the soil due to the root mass....hmm 2 gallon containers/oops.

PS's anubis girls @ 45 days since germ under the indagro par 100 (105watts):

just flowering along, ...no signs of trouble yet........still like the squatty girl


20th day of 13/11 ............be safe and happy growing

 

[jubiare]

Fight or not fight, this is an impeccable job so far!

 

[FranJan]

How much height do you have there sir? Maybe it's time to buy a bag of soil, slice it open, then open that bottom off of your planter and just plop it into said bag of mix. Let those roots grow some more. Maybe it'll kick that P def's ass.

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Fight or not fight, this is an impeccable job so far!

Thank you Jubi.............the cheese girl is gonna be a handfull though..

How much height do you have there sir? Maybe it's time to buy a bag of soil, slice it open, then open that bottom off of your planter and just plop it into said bag of mix. Let those roots grow some more. Maybe it'll kick that P def's ass.

Yes plenty of height but no width...........the cheese is past the effective coverage area of the led panel already / way too tall for it also IMO.....gonna have to continue restricting her root system...........great advice Fran.


ILP's cheesedream @ 52 days since germ under the Hans led panel(65 watts):

watered and tested the medium's PH ==averaging just under 7 from three different areas.......It's still spreading but will do nothing for now/ will see how bad it is in a couple of days....

PS's anubis girls @ 47 days under the inda-gro 100 (105watts):

............well nothing new..............trying their best to reproduce


22nd day of 13/11............be safe and happy growing RIU

The Eagles finally won a game.........Not only is the season over/ now they want to ruin their draft picks..........fantastic!

 

[Txchilies]

Damn Psu, I'm not much up on cheese strains but I'd say you got a monster there. Deffinately better than the Blues we were playing with.

 

[IlovePlants]

PSU, if we were next door neighbors I would borrow you a cup of super soil for that little cheesy monster.

Keep up the good work,
ILovePlants

 

[The Dawg]

Right On Brother Psuagro.Thats 1 Sexy Looking Closet However I Do See Some Room For A 16 Oz party Cup.You Chicken Bach Bach Bach

 

[PetFlora]

Eagles needed to see how Foles is under fire. So far, looks like they can use that draft pic elsewhere, like O line

 

[chazbolin]

Gardens lookin GOOD Psua! Those annubis are frostin up nicely brutha. Should be a fun finish.

Hey Pet! IMHO Foles looks like the real deal just gotta protect the kid. Keep Avant and 2013 should be an interesting season.

 

[Fonzarelli]

According to what I am experiencing, some plants do not like much 660

On 1/3 plants under the same light 2 were fine with the amount of 660 I was using, however, the other, the secondary leaves clawed. I removed it 3 weeks ago and all the new secondary leaves since are flat- normal

I've been getting some clawing with the LS strain quite a bit, but it's only happening to the plants that are in soil. All of the plants that are in straight Coco/perlite have never clawed once. It may be that 660nm pushes the plants to grow faster and demand more oxygen to the rootzone. If the oxygen is not available this stresses the plant and makes the leaves claw to try and preserve what it has left to survive.

 

[PetFlora]

The plant in question is in lava rock, lots of O2

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Damn Psu, I'm not much up on cheese strains but I'd say you got a monster there. Deffinately better than the Blues we were playing with.

Was a monster..........she's a little thinner now

PSU, if we were next door neighbors I would borrow you a cup of super soil for that little cheesy monster.

Keep up the good work,
ILovePlants

Yeah no kidding..............your girl is hungry........gonna do my best/ I'm running a new Fert line that I'm not very familiar with.....i'll get the kinks out eventually....maybe

Right On Brother Psuagro.Thats 1 Sexy Looking Closet However I Do See Some Room For A 16 Oz party Cup.You Chicken Bach Bach Bach

Not chicken........In philly we call it being an "eagle"......I'm coming for you next round

Eagles needed to see how Foles is under fire. So far, looks like they can use that draft pic elsewhere, like O line

O line, D line , secondary, safety, etc. etc...........the kid seems to be a pure pocket passer, kinda impressed. Still should not be winning games at this point IMO

Gardens lookin GOOD Psua! Those annubis are frostin up nicely brutha. Should be a fun finish.

Hey Pet! IMHO Foles looks like the real deal just gotta protect the kid. Keep Avant and 2013 should be an interesting season.

Yep hopefully have this done soon, the cheese is a 100+ day girl from the looks of her......Maybe Vick will be back next year

I've been getting some clawing with the LS strain quite a bit, but it's only happening to the plants that are in soil. All of the plants that are in straight Coco/perlite have never clawed once. It may be that 660nm pushes the plants to grow faster and demand more oxygen to the rootzone. If the oxygen is not available this stresses the plant and makes the leaves claw to try and preserve what it has left to survive.

Interesting theory........but it seems to usually be an overfert issue under leds, instead of the 660nm.........Not sure though, this is only my second run under leds...so IDK shit really.

ILP's cheesedream @ 55 days since germ under the Hans led panel(65watts):
removed the leaves with the heaviest necrosis (15-20) and all the new growths^^^ are showing signs of P def so I decided that it's time to add more ferts.....I top-dressed her with the rest of my soil mix and added 1/2 strength of RO bloom fert/ liquid beni bac/ and watered the bitch today....gonna lose some yield from this unfortunately, should see her bounce back within a week.

PS's anubis girls @ 50 days from germ under the Inda-gro 100(105 watts):

....showing the same overfert signs the cheese did ten days ago, which turned out to be a deficiency........will also wait this one out to make sure ....way ahead in flowering compared to the cheese...

...25th day of 13/11........be safe and happy growing

 

[hyroot]

Looking good Psu. The IG ones are looking much more frostier. That could be strain or not. The led one looks huge. cheese grows huge. They look happy

btw I made a compost / guano tea last night using the uprising. Going to water them with it in a little bit. I will let you know how it goes. I noticed during flower with top dressing, the plant does not recover near as quickly as it does in veg. Sometimes not at all. Or its just that I added top dressing a little too late. That's only been with my master kush.

 

[THE KONASSURE]

Man I`m reading this thread and it`s making me hate how fucking busy work has been

I mean I got home the other day and check my plant`s vegging and the pot for my aeroponics was dry I must`a had zero free time at home for 3 or 4 days and not realized lol

Anyway I got some small plants under the 200w 3000k induction just waiting for them to get over running a bit dry the other day then they can go in a bigger box and I can make some room in the tent to take some pictures of the led induction set up.

It`s just half being used for storage if it was not winter I could get all the pots and biobizz out the way by stuffing seeds in them and putting them in the sun like this story I was told as a child when weed was grown everywhere but that was before it came the darkness the night the gay war on drugs !