Organic TGA Grow Journal - Plushberry, Qush, Flav, Ace of Spades...the list goes on!

Cann

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nice grow bro.....
Thank you sir. I'm trying my hand at mainlining two ladies, I'll post pictures tomorrow of their progress (there are a few pics of when i chopped them if you scroll back in my posts). Would love any input you have on the situation. I think I did one of them wrong (cut above the first node not the second) but hopefully it'll still work out.
 

winstoner

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Best seaweed product is probably algen extract by h&g. But its not worth the money. Nitrozime is probably second best, but still not worth the expensive price tag IMO. I started using Growmore liquid seaweed extract, cus its cheap and great. I love ES by Roots Org, Amino Aide by Soul Synthetics, bioweed by GH. Pretty much every product ive used works great, cold processed is better supposedly some benefitial shit gets damaged in the heat processing.... Either way, just dont spend more than 20 bucks for a liter.
 

Cann

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word good lookin out - i'll be sure to pick some up next time i have the $$$

waiting for the lights to turn on in the flower room to snap pics, then i'll be back for an update

peace
 

doubletake

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Hey I was ganna ask but didn't want to start a conversation on that other dude thing but did you start with 4 lights then add those 2 I was thinking of getting the 4 digital so that I could dim them when I only veg for like a week then maney flip it to 1000 for the last 2 or 3 weeks of flower?
 

Cann

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yeah, basically what I did was hook up all 6 at the beginning but for veg and flower only had 3 or 4 lights plugged in, now I have 5 running (starting 3rd week flower), bout to turn on the 6th in a week or so. not exactly sure what you're saying about flipping to 1000? but if you have the ability to run 1000w lights you definitely can, just know that you'll have less vertical space to work with due to heat. Thats just one of the reasons I prefer 600s. lemme know if you have any more questions, sounds like we're running a similar setup


and sorry everyone no time for an update tonight, gotta get my sleep, i'll post some shit tomorrow. peace :bigjoint:
 

doubletake

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Ooo yea nice give them those extra watts rights at the end, and I was saying flipping to 1000 meaning turning the dimable ballast up from 600 watts too 1000 watts
 

Cann

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word, if they're dimmable and you can handle the heat from 1000s I'd say go for it, but you'll have to have your canopy farther away and you might end up with the same amount of usable lumens to your ladies. you should do the calculation of heat/distance/lumens with 600 vs 1000 to decide if its really worth it for the extra power you'll be pulling to run 1000s and more A/C to cool them. Thats a large part of the reason I went with 600s, cause I can hang them so close to the plants that there are as many usable lumens as an 1000.
 

doubletake

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Yeah define toy I'm way more for the 600s I've actually never ran 1000s but yeah I like to keep my lights really low as low as I can so problem just getting 6 lights and hooking the last two up the last couple weeks is what I would do did you build a sub pannel for you room I heard if your running more than 4 600s u want to build a designated sub pannel or whatever
 

Cann

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Yeah define toy I'm way more for the 600s I've actually never ran 1000s but yeah I like to keep my lights really low as low as I can so problem just getting 6 lights and hooking the last two up the last couple weeks is what I would do did you build a sub pannel for you room I heard if your running more than 4 600s u want to build a designated sub pannel or whatever
Word, I didn't build a sub panel for mine, Instead I designated a 50amp dual pole breaker for my lights ONLY - wired this with 8/2 romex and hooked it up to a C.A.P. Master Light Controller with 8 outlets. I could potentially run 8000w on this, but since I only run 600s and only 6 at a time I never go over 3600w...which is a small load on the 50amp circuit, you should have no problem. If you don't have a MLC then you can just wire the romex straight into a 110v circuit potentially, but I wouldn't recommend it (working with wire that thick is such a pain in the ass). The key is having seperate breakers for your lights and everything else. My A/C, fans, timers, etc all run off of a 30amp breaker that I wired in and connected to a regular 2 plug outlet. Hope this helps, I'm not a master electrician by any means but I have a basic enough understanding to wire most grow rooms.
 

Cann

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Been so damn busy this week, sorry about the lack of updates. Things are moving along well in the flower room, today is officially the end of week 3 and the ladies are looking great. Luckily I have had a few spare moments to shoot some pics so theres some nice underage bud porn for yall :weed: A lot has happened over the last week so I’ll break it down:

EDIT: Forgot I shot this video today, I'll post it at the top here for those of you who'd rather watch something real quick than read the essay that follows, cause I know I'm that guy.

[video=dailymotion;xvq9qi]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvq9qi_mvi-0400_lifestyle[/video]

12/2 - Gave everyone a good watering in both rooms and sprayed with neem oil to control the few remaining adult fungus gnats. Mommas are starting to turn a bit yellow, not sure if they have used up all the nutes in the soil or if I have a deficiency of sorts (I’m thinking cal/mg because of my RO water). Some of the ladies in flower are showing the same symptoms, will water with the compost tea in a few days once they are thirsty again. Picked up some Roots Elemental, which is a good Cal/mg supplement – will start to use it ASAP. Regardless of the yellowing everyone is jamming out, especially the ones in flower that are starting to form tiny bud sites all over. New growth looks amazing.

Yellowing of the vortex momma before trimmingIMG_0353.jpgIMG_0354.jpg


12/3 - Trimmed yellowing leaves off mommas today, bought paperclips to tie down my mainlined Qush and Plushberry. Accidentally broke the stem of the Qush a little bit on one side from tying it down too hard, hoping she is going to be alright. Compost teas are getting foamy on top – this is a sign that the beneficial bacteria are getting it on :hump: the key to a healthy tea

Snapped some pics today, just couldn't resist.

IMG_0327.jpga few shots of Plushberry #1 starting to show purple after 14 days of flower :mrgreen:IMG_0329.jpgIMG_0335.jpgsomehow the ladybugs know shes my favorite one (they only congregate like this on her)IMG_0334.jpgIMG_0337.jpgfar away shot of Plushberry #1IMG_0340.jpgSome perspective on the tentIMG_0341.jpgpoppin pistilsIMG_0344.jpgIMG_0345.jpgthis cola doesnt want to be tied down!IMG_0347.jpgif you look close you can see the few plants that have bent colasIMG_0349.jpgabove shot of mainlined Plushberry #1IMG_0352.jpgside shotIMG_0350.jpgabove shot of mainlined Qush #1IMG_0351.jpgside shot (the one on the right is the one i broke a little)IMG_0357.jpgshot of both mainlined clonesIMG_0355.jpgladies in veg closetIMG_0356.jpgshot of veg tentIMG_0359.jpgteas starting to foam up (eventually it will form a layer of foam that nears the brim)IMG_0364.jpgthe many-headed jillybeast

12/4 -
Pots feel light again so they’re getting a feeding. Took the bloom tea, which was pH 4.8 and 1340ppm and cut it with RO water until I got something that was about 420ppm :bigjoint: The only problem is this is still around pH 5.4, and if I add pH UP I have to add about 3 TBS for 4 gallons of nutrient solution in order to get around 6.5. This subsequently brings my ppm to around 550 or 600, which is very annoying, and I feel like ¼ of my ppm shouldn’t be composed of pH UP, because that is probably not a good chemical (maybe a salt of sorts?). I do not want to cause lockout in my soil from salt buildup, but I also don’t want to water with nutrient solution that has a pH of 5.4….what should I do? Is it okay to add this much pH UP? I just don’t want to give my ladies anything that will hurt them, and pH up is about the least organic thing I use in my garden…
Well regardless of whether its good or not they got a feeding lol, I measured the pH of the runoff and its around 6.1 or 6.2, fine by me :mrgreen: Usually I let them sit in their saucers with the runoff for 24 hours, then I use a turkey baster and feed them what’s left. 12 hours later all the saucers get collected, emptied, cleaned, dried, and set-aside until the next watering. If I leave them in place the entire time they collect moisture underneath and the underside will NEVER dry completely. I am not trying to fucks with powdery mildew at ALL, so I have to use the saucers sparingly. This keeps my RH below 50% at all times, and usually it hovers around 35% or 40%. Gotta love the desert for cold dry nights :sleep:
Bud sites are starting to fill out nicely…damn yellowing leaves are progressing though, especially with the Mommas. I’m considering chopping them and using their clones as new moms… Not gonna need cuts from them for a while anyway and right now they are just taking up space. Not worried about genetic conservation since these are already clones of a clone I bought from a place that got all their genetics from clone in the first place...

12/5 -
Got some more genetics from a friend today :hump: Sourband, Blue Cheese, Deadhead OG, and another Agent Orange :mrgreen: happy because I only got 1 Agent female from the 4 surviving seeds, so it'll be nice to have another pheno around. Really pumped for all of these genetics, wish I had more room in the flower tent! Oh well, for now they are all going into the bathroom quarantine, along with all of the other cuts I got (Sweet Tooth, Sour D, Woody Harrelson OG, Cindy 99, Fire OG, God's Gift, and Kush Wreck) which are starting to root now, both in the aero cloner and rockwool. Aero cloner has been a bit slower this time around, I think it is because they are under a tiny CFL instead of the 4 bulb T5. Bought a product called NO POWDERY MILDEW as a preventative. It contains geranium oil I think as the active ingredient, it was recommended to me by the guy at the hydro store over PM wash or anything else like that. Sprayed everything in quarantine, along with the veg room.
Going to spray it in the flower room tomorrow I think….it smells good and the buds are still tiny. Approaching the end of week three and everything is looking great except the yellowing leaves on some…I applied the Roots Elemental to all of the pots as a top dressing, as well as watered them with a mixture (although it is pretty damn hard to dissolve properly in water). For top dressing, it said to use 3TBS per pot, so I did roughly that and mixed it in with the first inch or so of topsoil. Some of the pots were seeming a bit low on soil, so I topped them off with fresh Roots 707 from the hydro store, the only problem is that shit has fungus gnats for sure (why else would it always be on sale $20 for 3 cubic feet lol that’s like half price). Hoping that the mosquito dunks that are also mixed in that top inch of soil will do the trick, and I will spray some more neem soon (last spraying) to try and off the adults. Might hang a few sticky traps as well just cause I have em sitting around. I saw a fungus gnat hovering around the bag in the store, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are a bunch of adults lurking around now. Can't believe they still sell that shit and don't even mention it :finger: but then again it is so-cal...I'm considering bringing it up to them next time just to see what they say...

I’m hoping the Elemental works relatively fast, because I want these ladies to be pumping out trichs at maximum level and with a cal/mg deficiency that wont happen… Also I’m hoping it works soon because currently it smells like old gnarly sea ass sitting on top of my pots and I would love my tent to smell like something else haha namely DANK.

12/6 - After looking at the buds forming on these ladies it appears the bottom branches are still going to be totally blocked out for light, so I decided to do a bit more thinning while I still can – turning most of them into lollipops somewhat. I don’t want to risk any PM issues at all, and since I already know the spores are in my house (in quarantine from the contaminated cuts I picked up) its about creating conditions where it won’t show up. I thinned out all of the ladies pretty intensely underneath – trying to remove anything that won’t get light, and any leaves that are touching continuously (mold risk). On one of the plants (the Space Bomb), there was a tiny patch of what appears to be PM on a small inner leaf that was touching another continuously. I am hoping it is just some Elemental I spilled (stuff is white powder and when I spilled it on the ground it looked like PM spots) but that is just what I’m telling myself haha to try and cope with the fact that I am already dealing with this bullshit. Cut off a bunch of leaves on the Space Bomb to thin it out and then I sprayed all the plants with NO POWDERY MILDEW. I have a tiny bit of Green Cure that I will use ASAP in the next day or so because after that it’s definitely too late into flower. I just don’t want to take any chances with PM that shit is the devil, and I need to catch it soon before it becomes systemic. I am going to mix up a c02 homebrew soon (sugar, water, yeast) so that I can run my dehumidifier, which brings the temps up to 82 or so if it’s running (but also brings the humidity down to 30%). Without the dehumidifier running my RH can sometimes reach 50% during the night cycle, which is definitely too risky. I am hoping to get another fan soon so I can improve airflow in general, although I already have 2 16’’ oscillating fans in there and most of the leaves are fluttering constantly. God damn this is annoying – guess I’ll just have to count my blessings that I caught it early and at least I know how to control it. If I decide it’s too late in flower to spray green cure I’ll just give them a spraying with whole milk diluted 1:10 in water – as weird as it seems it actually kills the PM :bigjoint:

12/7 -
Gave the ladies in the veg room a watering today because they were startin to droop. Foliar fed with Extreme Serene 15ml/gal, needless to say they were quite happy a few hours later, no more droop :) Also noticed a tiny bit of PM in the veg room (one tiny spot on one tiny leaf lol) but still, son of a bitch!!!! :fire: removed the infected leaf and flushed that shit down the toilet, I need to do a milk spray soon! Too many sprays not enough time for the leaves to chill out!! Sorry ladies, I’ll give you a break and just turn up the fans to try and lower the humidity. It’s no coincidence that these 2 spots of PM have showed up during a week of rain and high humidity outside….:wall:

12/8 - Leaf yellowing is still progressing, decided enough is enough and dissolved 1TBS of Epsom Salt in a gallon of water, sprayed everybody down in both rooms. Hoping this does the trick, not sure if it has any calcium in it but at least there is immediately usable Mg. Bought some black plastic and put it over the windows to help with light leaks in/out. I was getting a strange orange glow coming out my front window most of the night – that’s no good. Also I noticed that my A/C unit LED display throws a bunch of light onto the flowering ladies at night, so I put a few layers of duct tape over the display to prevent light stress. I also put some duct tape over the lights on my atmospheric controller, even though they are green lights (I’ve still heard of green lights messing up photoperiod, no need to risk it). Decided to rotate the veg tent within it’s room for various reasons, so I had to take everything out, move it, and then put everything back in. In this process I decided that the Mommas were taking up an unnecessary amount of space in the veg tent, and they were also getting too much light and growing too fast for my needs, so I relocated them to various places within the room under CFLs. Hopefully this will keep them happy yet not growing too fast. With the extra space in the tent I was able to move all of the remaining plants out of the closet, which freed up a 4’ 4 bulb T5 fixture. I decided to move this into the closet in the flowering room (3x4x6), which I was only using for storage of ducting and such. This allowed me to take a few of the 15 plants I had brought in on December 1 and move them out of the flower tent into the closet – freeing up space for the big ladies to breathe a bit and get more light penetration. These closet ladies will be flowered under 6400k T5’s which will definitely be an interesting experiment. I just don’t want to have to deal with the ventilation of another HID light if I don’t have to…

12/9 - Week three is over! All of the little bud sites are getting me excited for the next month! The fact that two of my phenos have already started turning purple is even more exciting!!! Everyone is looking great for the most part, I’m hoping the yellowish ones will react to the Epsom Salt spray soon and start to green up again…
In the veg room everything is looking great, mainlined ladies are jamming along, need to chop them back again soon..
In quarantine all is well, no sign of PM, cuts are rooting more vigorously now both in rockwool and aero. Only issue is the aerocloner is leaking a bit, but hopefully a bit of duct tape will fix that. If not its off to home depot to pick up a tube of silicon. But I’ll have to wait unitl they open cause its 5 in the morning!!! God damn garden and life got me caught up, the only free time I have to post is at crazy hours of the night. Oh well, I guess that’s how it is sometimes. Waiting for the holidays to arrive and things to settle down…until then I’ll just pack another bowl of sweet tooth and try to forget about all the BS. Now its off to sleep :bigjoint: I promise I’ll be back soon with more

Oh yeah and pics - snapped these a few hours ago

IMG_0366.jpgshot of the rearranged veg tent/roomIMG_0368.jpgmommas in the veg closet under a CFL IMG_0367.jpgand on the outside of the tent under CFLsIMG_0371.jpgMainlined Plush #1IMG_0372.jpgup close of branchingIMG_0373.jpgMainlined Qush #1IMG_0374.jpgside shotIMG_0370.jpginside the veg tentIMG_0403.jpgbathroom quarantine :eyesmoke:IMG_0404.jpgup close of Deadhead OGIMG_0405.jpgAgent Orange, Sourband x2 and Blue CheeseIMG_0407.jpgA bunch of cuts (some are Gods Gift x OG Kush from the same friend)IMG_0381.jpgPlush #1 lookin niceIMG_0380.jpgtop shotIMG_0383.jpgAce of Spades #1 (definitely BCS pheno :mrgreen:)IMG_0396.jpgIMG_0382.jpgtop shotIMG_0395.jpgtrichsIMG_0386.jpglower growth still purpleIMG_0384.jpgcheese quake looking super happyIMG_0385.jpgbrought these ladies in Dec 1 (Lavender, GDP, MILF, Qleaner, Vortex)IMG_0389.jpgAgent OrangeIMG_0362.jpgIMG_0376.jpgjust some room shotsIMG_0377.jpgIMG_0378.jpgjilly lookin so sexyIMG_0398.jpgRoots Elemental top dressing IMG_0402.jpg More ladies from Dec 1st under a 4' 4 bulb 6400k T5 in the flowering room closet :bigjoint:

That's all for now - I've been up for wayyyyy too long. Time to crash out, sleep in, and then make some supersoil :cool: its going to be a mission. I'll keep y'all posted on that as well. Peace and lemme know what you think
 

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Oriah

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All looks great man. But yeah to me your mothers look like they need more food. N def? and yeah, that is a bitch about your PH up... been thinking about that one, and i just dont know enough about different nutes to say. Id directly ask a few folks in a message though... Nugs, Hovering, FlowaMasta or KushKing are folks who ether used to use bottles, or still do some, with expert knowledge. They're who id ask anyway...
 

winstoner

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The only thing i ever use to raise pH is Protekt by dyna gro i think, its a potassium silicate product but acts like a ph up. Good shit. I hate when plants have phantom deficiencies, what are you daytime temps? What are you feeding them, in what amounts? Are you overwatering? Do you have root aphids or other bugs? Some stuff to consider... Looking good tho, that AOS is super exciting to see purple up. Good job getting rid of the undercarraige, that shit ruins you bud quality, and demolishes ur sellable/nug weight.
 

Cann

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Indeed, I've been looking into Protekt, maybe i'll pick up a little bit next time I'm at the hydro store. Although I've been really on and off lately about this whole pH adjustment in organics thing, take a look at my recent thread and you'll see what I'm saying.

In regards to the overwatering question - I am definitely not overwatering, and there are no signs of root aphids or anything of that nature. I generally let the ladies dry out a lot in between waterings, sometimes too much to the point where they start to droop and the soil is so dry on top that it becomes weirdly hydrophobic....and then I get water pissing out the sides of my air pots :cuss:

And Oriah good lookin out, I'll hit up nugs or hovering and see if they can chime in on my pH discussion thread.


I'll be back later tonight to post some pics, gotta wait till 7 30 when the lights flip on. peace yall
 

Cann

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Things are moving along pretty well...heres a recap of the last few days

12/9 - Sprayed Serenade on everyone today to prevent PM. I sprayed about 3 days ago with green cure, but I am doing multiple types of treatment just to be sure. Also, I didn't like what the green cure did to the pistils. This is 24 hrs after spraying at lights on with a 15ml/gal mixture.
IMG_0433.jpg can you say crispy pistils? we will see how they react to the serenade.

12/10 - Flower room smells like ass because of the serenade, but it will go away soon. Watered the ladies in flower with RO water,2 TBS of molasses (per 5 gal), and a bit of humic acid (to try and free up some extra Ca and Mg). Arranged the plants from shortest-tallest and adjusted hoods accordingly so everyone is getting good light but not too hot (Canopy never above 82 - wish i could get it colder). They were thirrrrsty....5 days between waterings is too long in airpots when I'm running my dehumidifier and 3 oscillating fans :neutral:


Decided it was about time to get a batch of SS cooking. Followed subs revised recipe as much as I could, heres what it ended up being:

4 big bags Roots 707 mix (12 cu. ft)
5 lbs. Blood meal 12-0-0
3.5 lbs. Bat guano 0-9-0
5 lbs. Fish Bone meal 3-18-0
3/4 cup Epsom salt
1 cup Dolomite lime
1/2 cup Azomite
3 TBS Humic Acid
1/2 cup Roots Elemental .25-.01-.1 + Ca 20%, Mg 2%, S 1%, Fe .2% (says its derived from calcitic lime, dolomite lime, gypsum, and fish protein hydrolysate)

Combined it all in layers on a tarp, mixed for about 20 minutes, shoveled into trash bins, dumped out and mixed again, then refilled. Ended up with 2 full garbage cans, watered each with about 3 gal of RO water + a little humic and fulvic acids (they were in a liquid product I got for free called Thunder grow - I just wanted to use up the bottles).

After reading subs recent post about the mycorrhizae in supersoil with info from a mycologist, I was intrigued to see that the mycologist mentioned to not let the substrate get over 84 degrees to prevent bad bacterial/fungal contamination, etc. This contradicts what is normally preached with SS, which is to set it in the sun and let it cook. Since I am always looking for an experiment, and I love mycology, I decided to put one bin in the sun, and one in the shade. I will take periodic temperature readings to make sure they are at different temperatures, but since the bins are black and I live in so-cal I imagine there will be a pretty drastic difference in temperature. The shade bin is on the north side of my house and should not really see any sun - temps will never go about 84 for the next month or so at least (hopefully although you never know here). We will see after a month how much the mycelial development is affected by temperature. I will definitely post my results for all to see.

This discussion of mycelium brings up another question - should I have added mycorrhizae as an innoculant? (Great white, Oregonism XL, etc) or does Roots soil have enough already to get started. Also, has anyone tried langbeinite in the mix? I was reading this thread - https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/554648-langbeinite-supersoil.html and it seemed to have some pretty good things to say about the stuff. I am going to be mixing up this batch again in a week just to ensure its homogenous, and I could easily add some langbeinite and mycorrhizae if need be. Any thoughts? I hate to stray from a time-tested recipe, but I'm always looking for places to improve - thats just how my brain works.

Anyway, here are some pics of the ingredients and the evolving pile. No pictures of me mixing it because it's pretty damn hard to mix and take self-pics lol. And once its turned over a few times and the amendments disappear it just looks like I'm taking a picture of the same pile of dirt over and over again :dunce:
IMG_0409.jpgIMG_0411.jpgIMG_0412.jpgIMG_0413.jpgIMG_0414.jpgIMG_0415.jpgIMG_0416.jpgIMG_0417.jpg

it got dark while I was mixing so no pictures of the soil in buckets unfortunately.


12/11
- Started to smell the ladies from my backyard, so I decided it was time to start running the carbon filter full time. The problem with this is my air cooled hoods have a passive intake from within the tent, which is stinky stinky air, so I needed to hook them up to the odorless air outside. This proved to be more of a pain in the ass than I thought it would, and I spent a few hours rearranging all the hoods, ducts, fans, etc. In the end, I had to cut back my intakes (now I only have one 200cfm intake) in order to hook up a split duct that feeds two rows of air cooled hoods. I think the cooling of the hoods with ~ 45 degree air will just about cancel out the cold air that the second 200cfm intake was supplying...we will see how it works out in practice. Now my room is fully smell proof with the exception of the A/C, which vents stinky hot exhaust outside. I am planning on soaking a piece of carbon fabric in essential oils (probably orange) to mask the scent, I am hoping this works decently. The main issue with my new setup is that the duct which connects to the hoods to the window is leaking absurd amounts of light at night, you can see straight into the duct and almost see the fixture! It is pretty hard for me to put a 90 degree bend in the ducting because of space issues, how can i make this look less sketchy from the outside??? If anyone has any ideas they would be greatly appreciated. :mrgreen:

And some photos:

IMG_0440.jpgnew pistils forming after the last ones got toasted by green cureIMG_0434.jpgIMG_0435.jpgfar angle shots of the room - not the yellowing already on some leavesIMG_0446.jpgclose up of one of The Flavs which is definitely Mg deficient, and possible N as well? What does this look like to you guys???

IMG_0444.jpgperky leaves on Ace of Spades #2IMG_0466.jpgOnly a tinge of purple so far on AOS #2, much less than AOS #1IMG_0445.jpgjilly lookin nice as alwaysIMG_0450.jpgbuds startin to formIMG_0451.jpgagent orange tied downIMG_0452.jpgJTR #2 showing great branchingIMG_0454.jpgIMG_0456.jpgPlushberry #1 - so purple! IMG_0457.jpgIMG_0455.jpgPlushberry #1 ColaIMG_0458.jpgHappy cheese quakeIMG_0460.jpgCQ colaIMG_0464.jpgAce of Spades #1IMG_0463.jpgalready filling out nicely not even 4 weeks yetIMG_0462.jpgAOS #1 colaIMG_0468.jpgIMG_0469.jpgcalcium deficiency? what are these brown spots???IMG_0470.jpgIMG_0448.jpgMg def? Thats what it looks like, foliar fed epsom salts a few days ago but I don't know if that would stop the yellowing of these old leaves.

12/12 - Watered vegging mommas, Took some cuts off of a seedling (Qush #2), the only seedling not in flower currently. She got so stunted back in October that she is just reaching about 18 inches (seed was popped in mid september). Really shows the importance of a strong start if you want a large harvest. Usually I would move Qush #2 into the flower tent now, but there is no room! Guess I'll just have to veg her for a few more weeks...oh well :bigjoint: Transplanted the ladies in quarantine into airpots, and potted a few rooted cuts into plastic cups. I am going to have a crazy list of genetics by the end of this...currently if everything I was gifted roots I will have 29 strains, some with multiple phenos. Need to start whittling some of these down haha otherwise it is going to get out of hand real quick...

IMG_0436.jpgIMG_0437.jpgIMG_0439.jpgmommas looking much happier after being fed a high N AACT last week. IMG_0467.jpgDIY CO2 brew for the flower room, 4.5 gallons h20, 8 lbs sugar, bakers yeast (until i can get my hands on champagne yeast). Hoping to bring the ppm up above 1000 for at least a day or two. I will be posting more on this co2 setup in a new thread later so keep an eye out.

thats it for now - time for a 420 bowl and then sleep. :bigjoint::sleep:
 

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Cann

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how the fuck do I get rid of all those useless annoying "attached thumbnail" things at the end??? its killing me!!! if anyone knows how to get rid of them it would be greatly appreciated...they add unnecessary length to a post that is already too damn long!!!!

:cuss:technologyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!


EDIT: well...until i figure this out there are going to be repeat pics at the end. sorry
 

Cann

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Picked up some Pro-tekt today, as well as some Cal/Mag and some more supplements for the supersoil (gypsum, langbeinite). The ladies in flower are yellowing FAST and i need to find a solution...

Noticed that the 4 most yellow plants are all in Plant Warrior Pots, not Air-Pots. The plant warriors have a smaller capacity, so I'm hoping this means I just have N def or Mg def, not a pH issue. Most of the plants in Air-pots are really happy, except a few that have necrotic splotches developing on them - not sure if that is a deficiency or from leaving Serenade on the leaves for over a week, hoping its the latter...

Regardless it seems the ladies are just really really hungry...makes since because this is the time when they should start to pump out flower development, and I have been somewhat withholding on the food for their size (never dealt with plants this size before).

Will post pics in a day or two once I see their response. Got a copy of Teaming With Microbes today, going to give it a good read to try and resolve my pH question. I would recommend anyone serious about organic gardening pick up a copy, its pretty cheap on amazon (the price of a bottle of nutes).
 

ThatGuy113

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You have to go into the advanced post page then scroll down to manage attachments and you'll have to find the specific pictures that are in the attached thumbnails and either delete them from manage attachments or select them and click the put in line button to put the pictures into the actual post.
 

Cann

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You have to go into the advanced post page then scroll down to manage attachments and you'll have to find the specific pictures that are in the attached thumbnails and either delete them from manage attachments or select them and click the put in line button to put the pictures into the actual post.
THANK YOU!!! i'll try this next time. If i remember right I tried that last post but the manage attachments thing had like 100 photos in it and I didnt want to sort through all that BS...we'll see how it goes tonight. I'll shoot some photos just as a test upload :bigjoint: and cause today is officially the end of week 4!!! and cause I got some super yellow leaves that need to be diagnosed...

be back later with pics
 

Cann

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Quick update before I crash out

Yesterday I fed everyone in flower an AACT high in N, Mg, and Cal in hopes to stop the yellowing. pH of the tea was still around 5. I am hoping this will determine if I have a pH issue or just a simple deficiency. I am hoping it is a deficiency because the ones with the most noticeable symptoms are in smaller pots. This logic seems to be consistent with a deficiency since a pH issue would be expressed to some degree in all the plants.

Here are some pictures of the yellowing ladies. 24 hrs after the tea and I cant tell if the yellowing has progressed or not...I am not expecting them to green back up necessarily I am just looking for the symptoms to stop progressing and for the buds to keep swelling like usual. The plant shouldn't be using that much N at this point anyway, and I think a lot of the color loss is due to Cal/Mg issues from me being an idiot and using RO water for a few months without ever adding Cal/Mg to supplement...:wall:



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Regardless of the yellowing the ladies seem to be pretty damn happy in general, here are some nice shots of the development so far. I am pretty happy given that today is day 29 :bigjoint:


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Plushberry #1:IMG_0496.jpg


Ace of Spades #1 (My favorite plant in the garden right now, she's filling out really nicely):
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Will post some more stuff tomorrow, 420 bowl makin my eyelids heavy....


peace yall
 
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