imho hydro sucks

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kindnug

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If you have a reason besides flushing or sweetners(which I used and do every time) I'd LOVE to hear them
Oh yeah my plants did finish about 5 days faster in hydro(probably from the flushing depriving them of nutes)

If you need weight and a week off your budding Hydro wins every time but don't bash me for just lending what I have found.

If pictures could show smells and tastes...
 
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tibberous

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I didn't read every reply, but the big advantage of hydro that people always overlook is that it's less messy and creates less evidence. It can be hard to get rid of hundreds of gallons of dirt.

It is harder to screw up though, and you don't have water temperature issues. Honestly, cooling is the only reason I can see choosing soil over hydro, unless your broke.
 
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buffalowild

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Im definately thinking twice about growing hydro again after this first time. My area is just not built to support the low temps that are required, plus nutes n equipment are starting to make a dent in my wallet.

Soil was definately easier. Transplanted twice and watered twice a week...dang i miss that lol.
 
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kindnug

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If you need 100's of gallons of dirt to supply yourself> then you are not personal> you are commercial

So what your saying is I am correct that Hydro is much better for Commercial purposes?
How hard is it to dump your dirt in the garden outside and rake out some roots
Next year the veggies take over! Double win(I know lots of people who buy dirt for their veggies every year)

I've never heard dirt getting anyone in trouble> but I have heard of Plants getting people in trouble along with Hydro setups that are impossible to hide unless you move them to a friends.
A few airpots and some dirt isn't what gets you in trouble>correct me if I'm wrong the plants growing in the dirt is what gets you.

If you mean when it's time to trash everything>I'd much rather trash a few plastic pots and dump some dirt than try to hide/destroy a huge hydro system. I gave my hydro to a friend to play around with(He said he would just hold it for me)
 
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kindnug

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Hydro is for the person with plenty of money to spend.
Like I said its not the dirt/hydro system>its the plants.
You can grow tomatoes and anything else in hydro just like dirt
when they find anything else then the hydro system becomes evidence
Think they gonna bring a bunch of dirt/plastic pots to the station?
 
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kindnug

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My grandpa got stuck by the pricks about 5 years ago(he was in dirt) all they did was cut the 6 plants at base of stem and stuff in black bags.

Took his 2-400 watt recycled street lights> and his couple oz and a bong>Left bowls/papers/cans.

I can guarantee you if he were running a big dro system they would've took that for evidence that he was producing for sales.
Which can be the difference between 5 and 20 years^
If your lucky they just fine the shit out of you and give you a year or 2 for personal production which is what he got.
 
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Victom

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bdt1981 said:
No actually it is someone looking for different reasons from different people why they would grow hydro
Even though it could be harder and more expensive. Oh sorry something u wouldn't know anything about with your 400 watt stealth grow.
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More like 8 Hunnit watts to you Mr.

with your ghetto budget ass hydro setup.

your setup is like comparing CFL's to HPS lol.

GrowinTheDank is on the right track.

carry on.
 
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kindnug

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Neighbors smelled his grow > odor control was his downfall
He said to me after getting out of jail > I'm too Old for jail
That was his last grow at 81
 
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bdt1981

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Victom said:
More like 8 Hunnit watts to you Mr.

with your ghetto budget ass hydro setup.

your setup is like comparing CFL's to HPS lol.

GrowinTheDank is on the right track.

carry on.
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rammed and I thought this is a nice setup. But it does lack NIMAG0111.jpgIMAG0111.jpgOTHING AT ALL.
 

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bdt1981 said:
Come on really guys why would anyone want to grow with any kind of hydroponics. It cost way more to run, it has way more things that could go wrong, house can get flooded, nutes are more sensitive and to much to add, I have been doing ebb and flow with a friend for a year now and it is clearly way harder and more work than I nice easy soil grow. And u get better tasting herb. For what? A lil more yield it would have to grow twice as much or more to even come close to as efficient as good ol soil. I have just had one crazy year of growing with ebb and flow.and soil is imho way easier and smarter to do than any hydro.
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I dont know how you could grow with both methods and come to that conclusion. If you do well in soil,you should be able to do hydro with one hand. I have to assume you suck at both.
 
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superstoner1

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It really sounds like the op had some bad experiences. Hydro is about control, immediate and absolute control. If you had a flood YOU did something wrong, don't blame the system. I have run hydro for years with 200+ gallons at all times and in total I have had maybe a gallon on the floor. And these are home built units. Nutes are not that expensive when you look at yield cost, I just recalculated my nute cost at $1.13 per dried ounce using an expensive line and additives.
 
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match box

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I just put my 3 grow in my hydro pot's this morning. I have never grown in any thing else. I know peolpe that grow in other soil and coco and I don't think I have any more to do than they do I just harvest sooner. I'm going to do an out door grow this summer and that will be soil. match
 
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FlightSchool

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Soil is cool for your first grow, I do find it to be more beginner friendly when you're still learning to ropes.

I prefer hempy, It's the happy middle ground between soil and hydro

I've grown hydro one time with a 5 Gallon bucket/bubbler set up for one plant, It grew twice as fast as my others and I was able to maintain it up until it got really cold one night and I didn't think to have a heater in the bucket :wall:
 
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Doski

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I did a couple soil grows before buying a hydrofarm, and i must say suck at ponics alot more than soil. Tho the more i get the hang of it, the more i see the benifits of control! To me the quality from that control can be used in both soil and hydro. Just need the proper exp.
 
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bdt1981

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Doski said:
I did a couple soil grows before buying a hydrofarm, and i must say suck at ponics alot more than soil. Tho the more i get the hang of it, the more i see the benifits of control! To me the quality from that control can be used in both soil and hydro. Just need the proper exp.
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I know ill continue with hydro just really want to do rdwc with current culture setup. Anyone who said I must suck should look at any pic I ever posted and show me one unhealthy plant. Seems like I do good.
 
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kindnug

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Hydro is great> but patients tell me they prefer organic soil grown because of the flavors
I tried using every supplement they sell and still couldn't produce what they wanted without going back to organic soil
If you use hydro>you know it completes plants faster and atleast 25% more weight with exact same buzz.

I even spent thousands on all different brands of nutes and tried them all with good success except the patients ask me everytime

"Flavors aren't the same, when you going back to organics?"
How can they tell it's hydro grown?(I don't tell them)
Frustrating! Had to go back to what they prefer
Mixing brands work? Tell me some ideas because I like the increased production
+ don't say flush because I do it every damn time
 
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