Harborisde Oakland Cherry Pie Has BALLS!

[miscbrah3284]

I have like five runs of DHN Cherry Pie to get through..

I have finished two so far and they both had seeds in the lower buds.. leading me to agree with your theory that the lower buds dont get enough light and might produce seeds..

It hasn't been a disaster, but I'm bummed for sure.. the quality of the bud is great, yield is so so..

anybody get anything good from Harborside lately?

mine were DHN Cherry pies....glad i chopped them cuz the balls came in everywhere pistils and budsites did

 

[Soupsah]

Have you guys noticed that it's a super light feeder. I was at 420ppm@7 at two week veg from clone and was getting really bad nute burn. Any tips on this strain from those that have grown it?

 

[Dan Kone]

Mine finished. The yield was bad. The buds were INCREDIBLE! When I decided to grow cherry pie I know it was a strain that's popularity that based entirely on flavor. I was not expecting it to be so strong. But it is.

Even though there were hermie flowers everywhere, I only got 2 seeded buds out of the whole crop.

Still will never grow it again, but it is great bud.

 

[Soupsah]

Thanks for sharing. Hopefully the cut that I have will do better than the dhn cuts.

 

[HTP]

Just me, but i try to stay away from some of these custom fad stains ....
Not say it is a bad smoke, just - not my cup of tea. Of many scamers out there now days over this stuff.

 

[resinousflowers]

I really could care less how much credibility I have with you. And yes, I do believe that the larger selection of seeds you pop, the the higher your chances of finding an elite pheno. In fact I know that to be true. Why do you think breeders use large sample sizes? Maybe an elite pheno comes from one person popping 1k seeds. Maybe it comes from 100 people popping 10 seeds. Either way the math works out the same. The more seeds, the more variation, the better your chances of finding an elite pheno.

California simply pops open a lot of seeds so the odds of elite phenos popping up in Cali are very high.



Thanks for that profoundly ignorant statement. You might as well of just said "every time I flip a coin it lands on heads" or "every time I play the lotto I win the jackpot". You're talking about statistical odds. You basically just said that when you pop a seed pack the genetics (which you had nothing to do with) come out better than the entire state of California collectively. Do you really believe you are luckier than the entire state of California combined?

I have a very difficult time believing that every time you crack a seed it comes out as good as OG Kush, Blue Dream, Green Crack, Gods Gift, etc. If that is true you are the luckiest guy in the history of the world and you should start a company that sells clones of all these elite phenos you come up with. You'll be rich!



Yes. They came from a pack of seeds. But if every time someone cracks a pack of seeds they got an elite pheno we wouldn't call them elite phenos. Elite phenos come from hundreds, thousands, or even tens of thousands of seeds being cracks.

its very easy to find a keeper these days growing from seed,and alot of breeders use elite genetics to make seeds.clones are easily aquired from cali and brought to europe to start breeding with,so its not like ppl in europe dont have access to clones from cali.

 

[Dan Kone]

Just me, but i try to stay away from some of these custom fad stains ....
Not say it is a bad smoke, just - not my cup of tea. Of many scamers out there now days over this stuff.

I'm fine with custom fad strains, I just want to stay away from strains that were bread from feminized seed stock.

 

[Dan Kone]

its very easy to find a keeper these days growing from seed,and alot of breeders use elite genetics to make seeds.clones are easily aquired from cali and brought to europe to start breeding with,so its not like ppl in europe dont have access to clones from cali.

Still not buying the idea that people in other places can get as high quality of a pheno from 10 seeds as Cali growers do from 10k seeds. Even if you breed with an elite Cali pheno, that doesn't mean it's offspring will be elite too. These aren't stabilized genetics we're talking about. They are just phenos. You're going to have to grow out just as many of them as the person who found the elite pheno to get one just as good.

I'm not saying people from XXX country suck at growing weed, I'm just saying no place in the world pops as many seeds as Cali so by simple math, you're not going to have access to the same genetics Cali has access to.

 

[Grojak]

Still not buying the idea that people in other places can get as high quality of a pheno from 10 seeds as Cali growers do from 10k seeds. Even if you breed with an elite Cali pheno, that doesn't mean it's offspring will be elite too. These aren't stabilized genetics we're talking about. They are just phenos. You're going to have to grow out just as many of them as the person who found the elite pheno to get one just as good.

I'm not saying people from XXX country suck at growing weed, I'm just saying no place in the world pops as many seeds as Cali so by simple math, you're not going to have access to the same genetics Cali has access to.

I swear if California had a dick you'd be choking on it!!! Where is this math you speak of regarding Cali popping more seeds than the rest of the world? Spain, UK, Canada, Switzerland shits popping off everywhere son!! Only reason you hear so much about "California elites" is because of people like you man!!! While you're bashing on Amsterdam you might pull your head away from California's junk to research some of the greatest strains (and many that Californians breed with) from across the world. Shanitibaba = Black Widow, Super Silver Haze, Mango Haze. Serious Seeds Kali Mist and Ak 47 (shit how man variations of AK are in California??) shall I continue.. sure... Sensi Seeds - Jack Herer, Mr Nice, Ed R. Super Bud.... these strains and oh so many more can go up against anyones elites... speaking of elites, elites are just good phenos found regular seed packs ( i do mean regular I hate fem'd seeds) I mean all these "unknown genetic" clones are certainly just a bomb pheno of someone else's work, no secret there. Cherry AK 47 is a killer pheno, please pop 1000 seeds so you can find it!!


And are you stupid? you don't think people in other countries share cuts, pass around elites? How'd exodus cheese make it to the US?

 

[209 Cali closet grower]

just got EC from the uk my self. Smoked a bunch of ca strains now time to branch out

 

[Surfr]

I swear if California had a dick you'd be choking on it!!! Where is this math you speak of regarding Cali popping more seeds than the rest of the world? Spain, UK, Canada, Switzerland shits popping off everywhere son!! Only reason you hear so much about "California elites" is because of people like you man!!! While you're bashing on Amsterdam you might pull your head away from California's junk to research some of the greatest strains (and many that Californians breed with) from across the world. Shanitibaba = Black Widow, Super Silver Haze, Mango Haze. Serious Seeds Kali Mist and Ak 47 (shit how man variations of AK are in California??) shall I continue.. sure... Sensi Seeds - Jack Herer, Mr Nice, Ed R. Super Bud.... these strains and oh so many more can go up against anyones elites... speaking of elites, elites are just good phenos found regular seed packs ( i do mean regular I hate fem'd seeds) I mean all these "unknown genetic" clones are certainly just a bomb pheno of someone else's work, no secret there. Cherry AK 47 is a killer pheno, please pop 1000 seeds so you can find it!!


And are you stupid? you don't think people in other countries share cuts, pass around elites? How'd exodus cheese make it to the US?

I wouldn't even bother bro, Dank one lives in his own little fantasy world where Blue Dream, Gods Gift, and Green crack are Elites lolol.. Step it up to the big dogs with real elites then we might take you serious...

You want to know what real elites are like? Try growing some JJ gear, Bohdi gear, OGR, Pisces.. I still can't fathom that you believe you CANNOT find something better than Blue Dream in a 10 pack of beans.. Hahahahaha... Have you ever heard of StarDawg? Whitefire? Fire Bubba? Lemon larry? Appalachia? White Master Kush? If you would open your mind a little you would see these rival any clone only.

You want to know what REAL elite clone onlys are? Try Valley OG, Triangle Kush, Legend OG, 97 Cannabis Cup SSH, BKGK, Ghost OG, The White, Sour Dubble, Albert Walker(the real one), Pure Kush, Skunk VA. THOSE are real clone onlys.

I don't like to hate man, but you gotta open up your eyes a little. As soon as my seed run this round is further along in flower I will take some shots just to show you that YOU CAN find elites just as good if not better than any clone only. I have 11 strains from seed right now and i can bet both my nuts there will be so many keepers I won't have space for em all.

This right here is called Fruity pebble OG created by Alien Genetics and it EASILY trumps 98% of anything you would find in a Cali club.

 

[Dan Kone]

Albert Walker(the real one),

I've got the real Albert Walker, the one with the 10% clone success rate. I agree, it's elite. If you've got the elite cut of pure kush, congrats. There's a perfect example of a strain which is average at best, but so many seeds were popped, an elite pheno started circulating. That's the power of Cali genetics.

I still can't fathom that you believe you CANNOT find something better than Blue Dream in a 10 pack of beans.. Hahahahaha...

Yeah, that's right. You can not find something better than blue dream in a pack of 10 seeds. Blue Dream yields 2 pounds a light of bud that tests out up to the mid 20's, tastes amazing, and produces beautiful looking buds. There really aren't that many strains out there better than that. The fact that you think that's a joke says more about you than me.

 

[Dan Kone]

And are you stupid? you don't think people in other countries share cuts, pass around elites? How'd exodus cheese make it to the US?

A perfect example, there's something you consider an elite strain that doesn't even register on Cali's radar.

Only reason you hear so much about "California elites" is because of people like you man!!!

And the fact that Cali grows more bud than any place on earth.

 

[Surfr]

I've got the real Albert Walker, the one with the 10% clone success rate. I agree, it's elite. If you've got the elite cut of pure kush, congrats. There's a perfect example of a strain which is average at best, but so many seeds were popped, an elite pheno started circulating. That's the power of Cali genetics.



Yeah, that's right. You can not find something better than blue dream in a pack of 10 seeds. Blue Dream yields 2 pounds a light of bud that tests out up to the mid 20's, tastes amazing, and produces beautiful looking buds. There really aren't that many strains out there better than that. The fact that you think that's a joke says more about you than me.

Something tells me you have the Dago Walker. You think Pure Kush is average at best? BWAHAHAH now your just looking like a fool. You know there are 3 or 4 different Pure Kush's floating around, right?

So you think there are no other strains that can hit 2 per light? interesting cause I have hit almost 2.5 per with a lot of different strains. Dude Blue Dream is AVERAGE at best. Does it yield well? yes. Does it taste and smell great? yes. Does it have the potency? NO. Anyone who knows real Blue Dream will tell you after a week smoking her you build a tolerance and it's just boring after that. My buddy runs 10 lights of Blue dream, he has for about 3 years now. The ONLY reason he runs it is because of the yield. That is it. He has two other lights for the REAL elites for head stash. I don't give a shit about THC percentages. I have smoked strains with higher percentages than BD that still weren't very potent. THC percentages is subjective, at best. You have "Elite" all mixed up in your head dude. Blue Dream is a cash croppers dream strain at best.

A perfect example, there's something you consider an elite strain that doesn't even register on Cali's radar.



And the fact that Cali grows more bud than any place on earth.

Exodus Cheese isn't on Calis radar? Dude do you live in a fucking hole? Exodus cheese is THE ONLY strain to make my eyes go cross eyed and couldn't focus on shit. Almost had a panic attack too. And I have been smoking DANK for more than 12 years.

I honestly just feel bad for you. There is so much amazing shit out there that you are turning your head to it's insane. STOP listening to the clubs and paying attention to what's in the clubs. Do you honestly think the best bud in Cali is moved through the clubs? Despite our difference I am almost willing to donate some true Elites that I have found in 10 packs just to your cause just to open your mind up a little.

Have you been to the farm or IC and checked out people grow journals? There are tons with people documenting grows from 10 packs that find truly AMAZING plants. And what's to say Blue Dream didn't come from a 10 pack? Or a single seed found in some hermied buds? I bet $1000 that most of calis clone onlys came from a single 10 pack. Not THOUSANDS.

 

[Dan Kone]

Something tells me you have the Dago Walker.

Whatever. I've got nothing to prove to you dude.

You think Pure Kush is average at best? BWAHAHAH now your just looking like a fool.

Yes, that's right. Actually most of the time it's below average.

Here's a list of pure kush test results. There are 9 tests, all of them profile as average or below average.

http://www.sclabs.com/scl-tested.html?samplename=pure+kush&sampleid=&client=&Cannabinoid=Select&sampletype=Flower&filter_order=a.DateTested&filter_order_Dir=DESC&task=public&Itemid=352&limit=10&limitstart=0&option=com_scl_tested&task=public

Now here is that elite pheno of pure kush. It's fucking awesome.

https://www.stickyguide.com/dispensaries/elemental-wellness/products/pure-kush--2

So yeah, it's an average at best strain with an AMAZING pheno. That's the perfect example of the advantage Cali has by poping so many seeds. The result is more elite phenos like this one.

You know there are 3 or 4 different Pure Kush's floating around, right?

Oh yeah. That was the point.

So you think there are no other strains that can hit 2 per light?

No I did not. You apparently have issues with reading comprehension.

interesting cause I have hit almost 2.5 per with a lot of different strains.

I know. You're like my hero. yawn....

Dude Blue Dream is AVERAGE at best

Why is it the single most popular strain to grow in the state? How come if you walk into any dispensary 4-5 people who work there will all be growing blue dream?

Does it yield well? yes. Does it taste and smell great? yes. Does it have the potency? NO.

https://www.stickyguide.com/dispensaries/elemental-wellness/products/blue-dream--7

I guess that is imaginary.

Anyone who knows real Blue Dream will tell you after a week smoking her you build a tolerance and it's just boring after that. My buddy runs 10 lights of Blue dream, he has for about 3 years now. The ONLY reason he runs it is because of the yield. That is it.

Actually it's because of the combination of yield, flavor, and potency.

He has two other lights for the REAL elites for head stash.

Why doesn't he throw out the blue dream and just grow those if they are so much better? Oh that's right, because blue dream is the best all around strain for a vendor to grow... Sure, there are other strains which will yield just as well, but not many that will produce that combination of quality and yield.

I don't give a shit about THC percentages.

Sure, who needs facts when you can randomly talk out of your ass?

You have "Elite" all mixed up in your head dude. Blue Dream is a cash croppers dream strain at best.

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. That's what makes that particular strain elite. You can yield large amounts of awesome tasting buds.

Exodus Cheese isn't on Calis radar? Dude do you live in a fucking hole?

Yes I do. But I come out of that whole to vend to 3-5 of the bay areas most high volume dispensaries about once a week. It's not a strain that people are super hyped on. There is no outcry for exodus cheese anywhere.

Exodus cheese is THE ONLY strain to make my eyes go cross eyed and couldn't focus on shit. Almost had a panic attack too. And I have been smoking DANK for more than 12 years.

wow. I'm soooo impressed.

I honestly just feel bad for you. There is so much amazing shit out there that you are turning your head to it's insane. STOP listening to the clubs and paying attention to what's in the clubs.

I pay a great amount of attention to that. Every time I walk into a club I check out every single strain they have.

Do you honestly think the best bud in Cali is moved through the clubs?

No. Not at all.

Despite our difference I am almost willing to donate some true Elites that I have found in 10 packs just to your cause just to open your mind up a little.

Well anyone who thinks you can get truly elite phenos by cracking a 10 pack of seeds is a fucking idiot and has no clue what he's talking about. So you can keep your shit genetics.

Here's how statistics works...

It doesn't matter if it's one person cracking 10k seeds, or 10000 people cracking 1 seed. It's still 10k seeds either way. So 1000 people cracking 10 seeds are as likely to find an elite pheno as 1 person cracking 10k seeds. So yes, a person cracking 10 seeds can find a pheno as high quality as 1 person cracking 10k seeds, but it's 1000 times less likely. Of course that does happen, but it's not going to happen every time you crack a pack of 10 seeds. That's fucking retarded.

This is not my opinion, it's simple math. Cali doesn't have more elite phenos because each individual cracks more seeds, it's not because people in Cali know something about germinating seeds that the rest of the world can't figure out, or because they are luckier at cracking seeds. It's because the total volume of seeds cracked in Cali is more than any other place in the world. We just have more plants growing so statistically we are more likely to produce elite phenos.

This is 7th grade math here, it really shouldn't be this complicated for you to understand. The idea that every time you crack a pack of 10 seeds, you're getting some pheno that's better or even just as good as someone cracking 10k seeds is a fucking joke dude. You're basically bragging about being lucky to the point of statistical impossibility. You might as well be saying "every time I've flipped a coin in my life it's landed on heads every time". It's absurd.

 

[Dan Kone]

And what's to say Blue Dream didn't come from a 10 pack?

Blue dream came from Santa Cruz. It's a cross between this local haze this guy had been working on for about 7 years when he decided to introduce DJ Shorts blue dream into the genetics. He sprung up one random pheno in a large outdoor crop that elite.

See, when you know what you're talking about you don't have to talk out of your ass.

Or a single seed found in some hermied buds?

hahaha. Awesome. You and your elite hermies. Thanks for the laugh.

I bet $1000 that most of calis clone onlys came from a single 10 pack. Not THOUSANDS.

Really? omg...

Ok, I get it, you suck at math.

 

[Surfr]

Dude, your stupidity really shines in this post. Your a joke. I'm done.

 

[Dan Kone]

Dude, your stupidity really shines in this post. Your a joke. I'm done.

Works for me, I don't even know who the fuck you are and you just randomly started following me around insulting me.

 

[Grojak]

Well anyone who thinks you can get truly elite phenos by cracking a 10 pack of seeds is a fucking idiot and has no clue what he's talking about. So you can keep your shit genetics.

Thanks for the quote fucking funny shit!!!

Please tell me where Chem 91, Chem 3 and Chem 4 came from, certainly not seeds right? God's Gift average at best (I got one hanging in my dry room right now). Is Trinity elite in your books? I know one of the 2 brothers who bred it originally in Kansas (you don't have to believe me but I know where it came from) in fact him and I got busted in Tennessee together heading to Bonaroo!! Albert Walker man that shits old but dank... in fact while were talking bout Elites.. Some of the more sought after come from Oregon and Washington you're Albert Walker (yea you might have the real deal) it came from Washington, Bret Bogue is from Gig Harbor, WA he took a lot of great WA genetics down to Cali with him, I know his Pezz and Grape Ape are bred from WA clone only strains... but seriously why am I wasting my time... you're the guy that doesn't think eilites are found in packs of seeds... C99 was an elite cut of Jack Herer backcrossed btw

 

[Dan Kone]

Please tell me where Chem 91, Chem 3 and Chem 4 came from, certainly not seeds right?

I'm not sure how you decided I said that certain strains aren't created from seeds. Where else would they come from?

God's Gift average at best (I got one hanging in my dry room right now).

Well there is actually two different cuttings people are calling god's gift. I'm speaking of this one http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=121024K035

Albert Walker man that shits old but dank...

Indeed. Kind of surprising it's still around.

in fact while were talking bout Elites.. Some of the more sought after come from Oregon and Washington you're Albert Walker (yea you might have the real deal) it came from Washington,

It's rumored to have come from either Washington, Idaho, and South Dakota. I'm not exactly sure where, I hear conflicting stories.

But again, if what you think I said is that Cali growers are superior to everywhere else in the world and no where else is capable of producing a good strain, then you are mistaken. The argument I made was about the collective gene pool in Cali, and because if it's sheer volume, is statistically more likely to produce more elite phenos. Something that is a mathematical fact. The result has been more elite strains coming from Cali than anywhere else in recent years. I really don't know how anyone can possibly argue otherwise.

But instead you've decided what I've actually said was that elite genetics don't actually come from seeds and that it's impossible for anyone anywhere else in the world to possess a good strain. I said nothing remotely similar. I appologize for using 7th grade math, clearly that was too complex for you.

Bret Bogue is from Gig Harbor, WA he took a lot of great WA genetics down to Cali with him,

Bret Bogue is a thief and a snitch. He doesn't create genetics, he steals them from other people.

I know his Pezz and Grape Ape are bred from WA clone only strains...

Well I actually know the original breeder of grape ape and the guy who came up with the name for it. They are not from Washington, they are from Southern Humboldt/ N Mendo. It was bred on their farm in Spyrock. Bret snatched cuttings of it and then sold it as his own.

but seriously why am I wasting my time... you're the guy that doesn't think eilites are found in packs of seeds...

I actually said nothing like that at all, you just completely failed at understanding very basic math.

c99 was an elite cut of Jack Herer backcrossed btw

No, actually it isn't. It originated with the princess cutting, bred for more than a decade before c99 was released. C99 is not a pheno, it's a strain that was originally released in reasonable stable seed form (2-3 main phenos), which made it extremely popular for breeding.

If you have actually grown out both c99 and Jack Herer you'd laugh at that.