1 Plant 6 strains (GRAFTING) - 6 fold plant increase, staying in your plant llimit

TheRainman

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Hey all-I started this process last night, where I tied down (horizontal, identical to pulling down a grape vine) 6 branches of a Big Bud strain I have. I then took off a cutting size section of Super Skunk and have methodically attached it the BB. The section it was tied to, matched size perfectly, where I removed a BB cutting. The goal here, is to eventually increase my strain count (obviously for variety) while staying in my legal plant count.


I understand there are a lot of variables and one that stands out for me the most is if the BB plant gets sick, I can have the potential to deal with losing 6 strains in one shot. The flip side to that coin is when I'm placing 6 different clone strains in my 2 week perpetual harvest system and getting the variety pack out the back end, that my friends is soooooo worth it. Half of my grow room is dedicated for experiments, so this one will be a fun adventure. Whether this works or not, is well worth the time involved. Some of the greatest discoveries are found by mistakes made...I'll take a bong hit to that.Another thing that surfaced in my melon, is the vigorous growth rate of my BB plant...BB is just a pusher for growth...this plant may be from Texas (lol, "everything is big in Texas)...we'll see.So, on that note, I would like to get feedback on this. Slam me, laugh at me or correct me, it's all good. It's you growers out there that will make me smarter and better...and in the end, I'll be higher than a kite :) Thank you all in Advance!
 

curious2garden

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Grafting makes very good sense with trees and possibly some perennials but it makes little sense in an annual. But good luck, I wish you the very best on this experiment. It's always a good idea to try out your ideas and see how they work. I'd be interested to hear if the graft takes and if so what your harvest looks like and how long that takes. Further how do you plan to feed these 6 different strains? Do all of these strains have the same feeding and environmental requirements?

Good luck with this
 

aknight3

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i have always wanted to do/try this but never had the space and security to do so, ill be watching, for sure.
 

robert030188

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He is basically mixing and matching parts on the plant...i will be watching, i've had thoughts of doing something similar
 

Ninjabowler

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Grafting makes very good sense with trees and possibly some perennials but it makes little sense in an annual. But good luck, I wish you the very best on this experiment. It's always a good idea to try out your ideas and see how they work. I'd be interested to hear if the graft takes and if so what your harvest looks like and how long that takes. Further how do you plan to feed these 6 different strains? Do all of these strains have the same feeding and environmental requirements?

Good luck with this
I hate to say it but what hes doing makes perfect sence. Although you right in regards to the fact that mj is an annual, by controling the light conditions to constant 18/6 or greater, one can keep an annual alive for many years. This is some basic shit. Ive seen it done on you tube with urban grower. They had some mixed results. I think its a great idea and ive been considering it for some time. Good luck man, i hope all goes well and ill be following for some great pics. All i can suggest is to stay sterile and keep up the good work in the name of science.
 

Indagrow

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Talked about this in a couple treads in here glad to see someone is giving it another shot. As you said your worry lies in keeping all of them happy.. The bb can be tricky as you have no means to see it stressing with no leaves on it, as for the rest a simple foliar feed will correct any issues on an individual basis.. Just keep a keen eye we all know different strains react differently you just gotta be a mj whisperer
 

TheRainman

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I hate to say it but what hes doing makes perfect sence. Although you right in regards to the fact that mj is an annual, by controling the light conditions to constant 18/6 or greater, one can keep an annual alive for many years. This is some basic shit. Ive seen it done on you tube with urban grower. They had some mixed results. I think its a great idea and ive been considering it for some time. Good luck man, i hope all goes well and ill be following for some great pics. All i can suggest is to stay sterile and keep up the good work in the name of science.
...as he holds up a lit joint in the air "I'll smoke to that"
 

TheRainman

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Talked about this in a couple treads in here glad to see someone is giving it another shot. As you said your worry lies in keeping all of them happy.. The bb can be tricky as you have no means to see it stressing with no leaves on it, as for the rest a simple foliar feed will correct any issues on an individual basis.. Just keep a keen eye we all know different strains react differently you just gotta be a mj whisperer
Excellent feedback. Will do boss, thank you Inda!
 

TheRainman

Member
Grafting makes very good sense with trees and possibly some perennials but it makes little sense in an annual. But good luck, I wish you the very best on this experiment. It's always a good idea to try out your ideas and see how they work. I'd be interested to hear if the graft takes and if so what your harvest looks like and how long that takes. Further how do you plan to feed these 6 different strains? Do all of these strains have the same feeding and environmental requirements?

Good luck with this
LOVE these types of questions/statements. These are the variables that I get to work with and there will be many more, but if I thoroughly observe and document to the Nth degree, I should have a good understanding of the process, the effects of the strains, the growth rate, etc.
 

TheRainman

Member
i have always wanted to do/try this but never had the space and security to do so, ill be watching, for sure.
When you see my pics tonight, you'll be jumping on it ASAP :bigjoint: ...trust me, you'll make space. Imagine have 6 plants in place of 1 (bong hit everyone) bongsmilie

I'm using my "Candle Stick" method for Vegging and then taking clones off as in need them in my Mary Jane 3000 Perpetual Bud Generating Time Machine (Plywood with mylar, light and fan...we can dream).

I promise to keep the data and pictures flowing.
 

TheRainman

Member
Talked about this in a couple treads in here glad to see someone is giving it another shot. As you said your worry lies in keeping all of them happy.. The bb can be tricky as you have no means to see it stressing with no leaves on it, as for the rest a simple foliar feed will correct any issues on an individual basis.. Just keep a keen eye we all know different strains react differently you just gotta be a mj whisperer

Inda-

I was just reading your post again and caught that about not having the BB leaves to show the condition of the main plant (is it sick, needs more nutes, etc).
I will for sure, leave several BB branches for this exact reason (see my earlier photos). Plus, if these new add-on's don't take, I just clip them and if all fails, I would hope to still have my girl in decent condition.
 

TheRainman

Member
Hey all-


Here's the pics and progress!


This is a Tahoe cutting that is now adhered to the BB branch. I used
Teflon tape (yellow arrow) due to the cleanliness of the material. The
white arrow is pointing to the galvanized wire I used to support the stem
of the cutting. The blue arrow is pointing to the 1/2 cut leaves from the
cutting. I feel the wire helped a lot as you will see in the next photo. Also, I was
able to lay the leaf out flat facing the light.


This is what would happen if I didn't have any support (Left). As you can see in the right, the wire is priceless for the
job it's doing. Again, I'm able to turn the leaf upright to receive its much needed light. This is the Purple Romulan
cutting that was placed towards the end a BB branch. As of now, this is the strongest of all three.


After securing the cutting w/Teflon tape (also special sauce in there too)
and putting the support wire on, gave a quick squirt of water and then placed
plastic over as a humidity chamber. As of now, the Tahoe cutting is do
"okay".


Here She is, in all her glory...or lack there of. BUT, she did go through
hell over the last 24 hours.

-Removed cuttings (to preserve her in case my plan fails)
-Tied all of her main branches down (total of 6, blue arrow on a couple). I did this to achieve
that "grape structure". Check it out, she turned all here tops up within the
last 24 hours...STRONG girl!
-Placed three different strains on, which are, Purple Romulan (1), Super Skunk (2) and
Tahoe (3)

In a nutshell...P. Romulan is solid, Tahoe is okay, but the Super Skunk
looks like it's going to need some serious love

Well, that's it for now.
 

drolove

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gonna be a lot of stress on the plant but its completely possible. cant wait to see how it turns out.
 

Highocaine

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I've been thinking about this lately.. Apple growers graft to produce different strains overall, I guess maybe you're crossing the plants with eachother every graft..
 

Bonsai

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I've been thinking about this lately.. Apple growers graft to produce different strains overall, I guess maybe you're crossing the plants with eachother every graft..
I think it just uses the roots through grafting, not the genetics of the main stem plant. Unless the grafted strains were male then he may be crossing them.
 
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