please help why are my leaves curing down n turnig a dark green (PICS)!!!!!

rebs420

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dude robert i am not gunna re transplant my plant, re read my whole thread i am not over feeding my plant i havent even fed my plant so thats not it...
 

robert030188

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dude robert i am not gunna re transplant my plant, re read my whole thread i am not over feeding my plant i havent even fed my plant so thats not it...
My bad bro did the same thing drolove did lol...adjust ph a little higher, most nutes lower ph of water. Since you dont have an expensive ph meter adjust higher. Raise ph to 7.5 before watering next time to off set the ph from time release nutes. what soil are you using?
 

LoRd MeGaTR0N31

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Do NOT follow the moister meter they suck. I had one when i first started and I realize I was better of judging myself when they needed water. Also get you some Fabric pots helps a lot. I just switched to Fabric for Flowering and I got to say I love these things. It Dries the soil faster.
well when i did watered her the moister meter that i got told me it was it was moist so i went ahead and watered her, a decent about of run off came out, also i dont have any other pot to put her in, and the pot she was in before i transplanted her was showing signs of "root-bound" so thats why i did a transplant.. also i dont wait till the soil pulls away from the pot. is there anything eles i can do to help my little girl out should i remove the damaged leaves..
ill try and get another pot and see if that helps her i dont think the pot i got now its too big for her then again im not sure untill i remove it and see...
 

KindTime

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Just my $0.02, but I also think it could also be wet feet. Can cause symptoms of N overdose because unchelated nitrogen stays available as long as the soil is wet. Maybe let it dry a little longer? Your soil could be more compact and wet than you want-especially when growing under anything but the sun.

I notice that on the 4th day after watering, when my soil get drier, growth explodes for a few days until they need water again. Those roots really do love oxygen.

But yes get that pH in check. Next time add more perlite to your mix. It will make the Fox Farms not so hot, and improve your drainage.
 

jackmac

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Well said. It's overwatering - do you let the top of the pot dry out for a good while before watering again? I bet you don't.....
 

rebs420

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dude i highly doubt its overwatering jackmac and yes i do let my pot dry out dude, its been bout 2 weeks since the last watering, re read my thread instead of reading half,
thax
 

jackmac

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hi guys im currently growing some AK47 and the size pot i have is a 5gal and the soil im using is fox farm ocean forest,

please help me out i dont know why my leaves are curling down and turning a weird green color also feels dry to the touch, i watered her yesterday and the ph was around 6.8 or so i just dont know what could cause this please if anyone can pin point this deficiency and what i could do to improve her and her leaves id greatly appricate it,
thanks again!
Two weeks? Or yesterday? It's not a deficiency - not from the plant, anyway.
 

rebs420

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i gave her water yesterday yes but before hand its been 2 weeks since she hasnt had water hence why i went and watered her yesterday, its my ph its off from what the other guy is telling me also making it look like its a deficincy bro.
 

jackmac

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i gave her water yesterday yes but before hand its been 2 weeks since she hasnt had water hence why i went and watered her yesterday, its my ph its off from what the other guy is telling me also making it look like its a deficincy bro.
Ok. I think, if you look back, that there's three people here who've suggested it's over watering. Based on the limited information, and not being able to see or feel the deal, it's not that easy to diagnose. But, given that you've planted in a nice nutritious soil, that the plants cannot possibly have exhausted of nutrients; that you say you haven't fed at all; and that your plant has survived for two weeks without watering....what does that suggest to you? There was a lot of available moisture already in your pot? Hmmmm.

Btw, do not remove any leaves, damaged or not - if it's green and it hasn't dropped off, then leave it alone - it's got a job to do.

Good luck!
 

carlosgez

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Hi, I just thought i'd add a photo of my plant while you guys are on the topic.. There are some yellow/light green specs around the leaves i was just wondering would anyway know what this is? I only get the chance to water this plant twice a day sometimes only once, water deficiency or something else? Seems like there's a couple experts on this forum all help would be much appreciated :)
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jackmac

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Hi, I just thought i'd add a photo of my plant while you guys are on the topic.. There are some yellow/light green specs around the leaves i was just wondering would anyway know what this is? I only get the chance to water this plant twice a day sometimes only once, water deficiency or something else? Seems like there's a couple experts on this forum all help would be much appreciated :)
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Hi - pot size, growing medium and location/environment (temp/humidity)? feeding regime? plant size/age? Just how much water?
 

carlosgez

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Hi - pot size, growing medium and location/environment (temp/humidity)? feeding regime? plant size/age? Just how much water?
The pot size is about 165mm wide, 175mm deep, I have used potting mix (from local store) and use organic liquid fertilizer too feed the plant (always following the directions for correct dosage), it's an outdoor plant for the time being & temperature's range from between 77-95 depending on the day but mostly in the low 80's. Humidity is average, the size is 190mm tall and about 80mm wide & age is just over a month. It doesn't receive a full day of light so the growth is slower. It gets between 600ml to 1l a day depending on how many times i get the chance to water it. Hope that helps & thanks.
 

urgod

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i thought nitrogen overdose is a dark green shade with a rams horn.. that looks more like deficiency or environmental problem. maybe you've been hit with a cold spell and your plant turned purple. hahaha since its outdoor
 

jackmac

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The pot size is about 165mm wide, 175mm deep, I have used potting mix (from local store) and use organic liquid fertilizer too feed the plant (always following the directions for correct dosage), it's an outdoor plant for the time being & temperature's range from between 77-95 depending on the day but mostly in the low 80's. Humidity is average, the size is 190mm tall and about 80mm wide & age is just over a month. It doesn't receive a full day of light so the growth is slower. It gets between 600ml to 1l a day depending on how many times i get the chance to water it. Hope that helps & thanks.
Ok. 1) time to re-pot. I reckon you're drowning the little bugger on a daily basis - suffocation. That pot contains around 1 litre of medium - it's tiny! Good to start off, but time to move house - do you let it dry out between waterings or are you constantly chucking water at it to stop it from drying out in those hot conditions? I'd recommend a ten litre pot, soil mixed with perlite at about 15-20% gently firmed down every 3-4 inches as you place it in the pot. You'll reduce the need to water so regularly and you should let the pot dry out quite well between waterings - lifting the pot to feel the weight is a good guide to how wet or dry the container is. This plant loves a wet/dry cycle - it will do your plant no harm even to leave it until the leaves all wilt and hang limply and the top wilts over (not recommended as a method, btw) then hit it with a litre or so and sit there and watch it stand up again over the next hour or two....

2) When you say you're using an organic liquid feed to manufacturer's recommended dosage, I hope you're not putting that in every time you water....?

Good luck - hope that helps
 

carlosgez

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i thought nitrogen overdose is a dark green shade with a rams horn.. that looks more like deficiency or environmental problem. maybe you've been hit with a cold spell and your plant turned purple. hahaha since its outdoor
Look at the picture in the previous page, i also have one more that has the same problem however this ones leaves also droop down every now and again. Today it was pretty upright & strong & then i seen it was starting to grow a little crooked because the wire that tied it to the garden stick had come off so i re-tied it so it grew straight and then it's like the plant went into shock or something.. Here's a picture of both of them next to each other, the one that's leaning downwards was looking just as sturdy as the other one just half a day ago. Again both have the light colored specs on the leaves, & one of them has dried leaves on the bottom if you can see.20121221_235559.jpg20121221_235559.jpg
 

urgod

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Look at the picture in the previous page, i also have one more that has the same problem however this ones leaves also droop down every now and again. Today it was pretty upright & strong & then i seen it was starting to grow a little crooked because the wire that tied it to the garden stick had come off so i re-tied it so it grew straight and then it's like the plant went into shock or something.. Here's a picture of both of them next to each other, the one that's leaning downwards was looking just as sturdy as the other one just half a day ago. Again both have the light colored specs on the leaves, & one of them has dried leaves on the bottom if you can see.View attachment 2450614View attachment 2450614
do you have adequate drainage in your pot? from those pictures it doesnt look like you have any nutrient problems besides the fact the one on the right is drowning from overwatering. and you should transplant it to a bigger pot. normally, the pot size should be half the size of your desired diameter for your weed plant. if your plants has grown to that size, time to get a bigger pot, if not, your not due for a transplant. but seriously. wait till your soil dries to about 2 inch down before watering. and feed only once every 3rd watering
 

carlosgez

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do you have adequate drainage in your pot? from those pictures it doesnt look like you have any nutrient problems besides the fact the one on the right is drowning from overwatering. and you should transplant it to a bigger pot. normally, the pot size should be half the size of your desired diameter for your weed plant. if your plants has grown to that size, time to get a bigger pot, if not, your not due for a transplant. but seriously. wait till your soil dries to about 2 inch down before watering. and feed only once every 3rd watering
Yes it has adequate drainage. I will transport them asap, & mix the added soil with some perlite! Well now i see part of the problem i think i do feed it to much as 3/5 watering buckets have liquid feed ill cut that down to 1/3. Over watering you think? Well i'll follow your guidelines an see how i go :) Thanks heaps for the advice "urgod" & "jackmac" much appreciated.

I was planning on switching to indoor/hydro in a week or two. Is that ok? Or is there something i need to be aware of when doing the transporting them from one habitat to another?
 

urgod

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no problem man, if it doesnt work, then i am sorry to say it might be too late for your plants. you might be able to cut some cuttings from them and start over. IMO hydro is alot easier than soil to control your nutrients, and keep clean than soil
 

jackmac

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Yes it has adequate drainage. I will transport them asap, & mix the added soil with some perlite! Well now i see part of the problem i think i do feed it to much as 3/5 watering buckets have liquid feed ill cut that down to 1/3. Over watering you think? Well i'll follow your guidelines an see how i go :) Thanks heaps for the advice "urgod" & "jackmac" much appreciated.

I was planning on switching to indoor/hydro in a week or two. Is that ok? Or is there something i need to be aware of when doing the transporting them from one habitat to another?
Stay in soil - if you want to do a hydro then do it next time - switching growing medium at this stage is madness - and soil is far more forgiving of any errors - and look at where you're at at the minute....problems. Ever heard the expression: Don't change horses mid-stream? It applies here.


ps when I say soil, I mean soil - not potting compost alone - although you could mix pc with soil to improve water retention/texture etc. - and not forgetting the perlite!

Good luck!

Edit: ps looking at those two pics again, your pots are over filled, in future make the soil level an inch or so off the top of the pot
 
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