Using Super Thrive Properly

[NLNo5]

My thoughts on Superthrive....

I am working on my first grow. Recently transplanted (3) plants and they were stressed afterward. Read about Super Thrive and decided to try it. Used 2 drops of Super Thrive in a gallon of water and the next day the plants looked MUCH better. Leaves are no longer drooping and plant has a overall better appearance. I don't have enough experience to swear by it, but it definitely saved the day for me. I hope this info helps.

Dood, the plants perked up because you gave them water. I just use a dilute root stimulator during my first watering and it does help the plant kick ass.

 

[Tamorin]

I used to much supertrive for a few weeks on my vegen plants, they started to yellow stayed yellowing for the next month, which is where I am now .Ive been pulling the really bad dieing leaves which were mainly fan leaves. These plants are now three months old, Iam offically cutting it out of the feedings out of 12 plants I got 3 that rebounded while giving them weak doses of the stuff, but I honestly am taking that shit out. Granted I overdosed them and locked them up for a bit that stuff is not making me happy atm. So I might have killed them but theres new growth but they are still yellowing even after a few flushes and nuitrients never over 1.0 their in month three, 2.5 ft. The only thing Im happy about is the fact the new growth is green but man the ones that are a little yeelow get so bad I pull em hopeing the plants make more fan leave. With that being said there are fan leaves green still but not a ton.

 

[Zot420]

what u reckon to use on a slow growing flowering plant after superthrive overdose ?
zot420

 

[backwoodsburner]

I use super thrive from start to transition at 5ml per gallon with great results. My plants are big and strong and when they flower the buds just shoot out. Its a miracle suppliment.

 

[SpaaaceCowboy]

So the OP states to use over the recommended dose of ST as suggested by the manufacturer.....A whole bunch of people come to argue back (5 pages long)....And he doesn't come back to say anything more...

Hmm...ok think I will stick to the manufacturer's suggested ratio anytime I plan to use the stuff.....

And per previous posters I'll go no more than 1 or 2 times watering with superthrive for it's entire lifespan......

 

[Izoc666]

So the OP states to use over the recommended dose of ST as suggested by the manufacturer.....A whole bunch of people come to argue back (5 pages long)....And he doesn't come back to say anything more...

Hmm...ok think I will stick to the manufacturer's suggested ratio anytime I plan to use the stuff.....

And per previous posters I'll go no more than 1 or 2 times watering with superthrive for it's entire lifespan......

i always follow the manufacturers suggested ratio and can feed plant with ST once a weekly if its practically...what it label says so...generally i will give plant 4 times of Superthrive in their thoughtout life....at first for transplant....and feed seedling stage...then feed again with veg stage...and one is for emerency if my plant dont look well. i always diluted supethrive with h20 overnight or two days before watering my plants. i thought it might help

 

[hobart]

Just trying to help the noobies with some nice informative information about how to use Superthrive properly, with your cannabis plants-Superthrive has a mix ratio.. that's the exact same as if you were mixing up a batch of Molasses and water. So once again, the general rule of thumb for mixing Superthrive, is 1tbspn per gallon of water

I thought it was supposed to be one drop per gal, thats how ive used it for years, I mean the bottle even says one drop a gallon. You'd think the inventor might know his own ratios after 30+ years of product availability. Anyway if using that much per gal isnt giving you issues Awesome!!! But I must say Ive been using super thrive for over 20 years myself on multitudes of plants and anything over a drop a gal and you're wasting your cash and possibly giving yourself a headache in the same process.

 

[DrFever]

sorry if this is dumb question, kinda brain dead right now. i'm not using superthrive but thrive alive(red) is it similar as in not using in flowering? thanks

IMO you should only use superthrive in first 2 weeks of veg more then that your wasteing your money as for flowering i wouldnt use it period no need superthrive is more or less for transplanting purpose and or stress relief like when you take a aspirin lol

 

[Mr.Grønn]

I once decided to buy SuperThrive (what a name!) after reading about people praising this product.
Only to read the label on the bottle... which puts me off... come on, do you guys really believe what's stated on that label?

What EXACTLY does this stuff do to a plant, and why do you need it?

I guess I should try the product before I comment, but buying something you don't know what you need it for is stupid. So educate me please (I'm NOT trolling, I want to know what I need this product for).

Before you do, read this: http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda%20Chalker-Scott/Horticultural%20Myths_files/Myths/Vitamin%20B1.pdf

(B1 or thiamine doesn't do shit to root-growth, it's a myth refusing to die - according to professionals).

Edit: I tend to use very little money, as I know every dollar I use - a share goes to the superrich. (really!).

 

[darkstar01]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1176421/
According to the US government, Thiamine (Vitamin B1) does the following...

"

Vitamin B1
(thiamine) is an essential nutrient for humans. Vitamin B1
deficiency causes beriberi, which disturbs the central nervous and circulatory systems. In countries in which rice
(Oryza sativa) is a major food, thiamine deficiency is prevalent because polishing of rice removes most of the thiamine in the grain.
We demonstrate here that thiamine, in addition to its nutritional value, induces systemic acquired resistance (SAR) in plants.
Thiamine-treated rice, Arabidopsis (Arabidopsis thaliana), and vegetable crop plants showed resistance to fungal, bacterial, and viral
infections. Thiamine treatment induces the transient expression of pathogenesis-related (PR) genes in rice and other plants. In addition,
thiamine treatment potentiates stronger and more rapid PR gene expression and the up-regulation of protein kinase C activity. The effects
of thiamine on disease resistance and defense-related gene expression mobilize systemically throughout the plant and last for more
than 15 d after treatment. Treatment of Arabidopsis ecotype Columbia-0 plants with thiamine resulted in the activation of PR-1 but not​

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. Furthermore, thiamine prevented bacterial infection in Arabidopsis mutants insensitive to jasmonic acid or ethylene but not in
mutants impaired in the SAR transduction pathway. These results clearly demonstrate that thiamine induces SAR in plants through the
salicylic acid and Ca​

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-related signaling pathways. The findings provide a novel paradigm for developing alternative strategies for the control of plant diseases.
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http://www.plantcell.org/content/16/3/643.full
Effects of nondegradable B1

Causes the plants cells to elongate and stretch, i.e. grow longer. So if you want small bushy plants maybe no SuperThrive except once during germination?


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1216/is_n5_v188/ai_12252342/
Effects of Vitamin B1 on delaying bloom in flowering plants.



Correct dosing for SuperThrive with conversion formula.
WHEN
When watering, irrigating, when soil is THIRSTY, in ALL water applied at same time, weekly or monthly, (or even daily or "constantly" – more diluted.)


HOW
Proportionally inject into water lines or hose, with proportioner. Or mix easily in tank (or clean trash tub. to be poured or dumped), ADDED to any regular fertilizing.


QUANTITIES often reported successful for MOST purposes-for active development or resisting stress:
3 FLUID OUNCES PER 100 GALLONS water (100 ml. per 400 liters),
(1 tablespoonful per 15 gallons),
(1/4 teaspoonful per gallon).
(2 drops or 1 minim per large cupful) 1 drop per small cupful).


FOLLOW-UP or DAILY or “CONSTANTLY”, especially very small, soft, tender plants: one fluid ounce per 500 U.S. gallons of water (30 ml. per 1,900 liters), (1 ml. per 60 liters), (1 minim per gallon or 4 liters).


BARE-ROOT 15 or 30 MINUTE SOAKING ROOTS of TREES and SHRUBS(except roses): 1 fluid ounce per 5 gallons. ROSES and tender plants: One fl. oz. per 20 gallons. BALL and BURLAP trees and shrubs can be soaked, until air bubbles out, in 1 fl. oz. per 5 gallons water.


REVIVING TREES and SHRUBS: 20 fl. oz. per 100 gallons, (Rarely, up to 2 fl. oz. per gal). Once. Then 3 fl. oz. per 100 gallons, from time to time.


HYDROSEEDING: 1/2 fl. oz. per 100 gal. SOWING SEED: 3 oz. per 100 gal. (I honestly would use 1/4 fl oz instead of 1/2, 1/2oz is actually a very high dose.

 

[skunkushybrid01]

what is left out from that science is that plants pick and choose what nutrients they take up.

It is fine to overfeed, what isn't fine is to allow too many salts to build in the medium. I know many of you won't be able to read that properly and many of you will get confused by what I've said, but i've said it now, make of it what you will.

 

[xxEMOxx]

Good info, although in flowering i never had a problem using superthrive..... but then again as a B vitiman it was used very sparringly and generally only at transplant or as a super shock/stress aliveatior.

 

[kingsofstate]

Thanks for explaining that Bricktop. Appreciate it... I really didn't feel like having to explain that.. LOL.

You know, you would think some of these people would have the intelligence to use Google to do research and look up their questions instead of asking us to explain it all. Just MO though.

peace..

I know this is an old thread but i just love idiotic responses like these in forums. The majority of people find these forums by using google to search (IE how I found this thread), However if people didnt ask the same questions over and over again there would be no forum left for you to use. I would say 99.9 percent of all questiions have already been asked and answered somewhere in the forum archives, but like I mentioned there would be not traffic left on the forum if all we did was search for the answer. Think about it. Without the traffic, and threads, the forum would not exist.

 

[thatreedocta]

I know this is an old thread but what if your doing a hydro drip system that drips 6 times a day from 10 gallons of nutrients/week. He says only use one time but how does that apply to a hydro drip system? Do you only use it for one drip feeding? One day? Or for an entire 10 gallon resevior?

 

[Malevolence]

I hope I have cleared up some of the confusion about using Superthrive with your cannabis plants. If I helped just one person, than typing this up was worth it.

If you have any other questions about the subject, feel free to send me a msg here on the site.. and I'll get back with you ASAP.

Thanks for explaining that Bricktop. Appreciate it... I really didn't feel like having to explain that.. LOL.

You know, you would think some of these people would have the intelligence to use Google to do research and look up their questions instead of asking us to explain it all. Just MO though.

peace..

Too funny.

 

[codenamedutchess]

I'm kinda kicking a dead horse here but... I Googled "Using super-thrive with cannabis" and this was the first post. Good info though and as much as op ratios do seem really high. There is food for thought in the idea that by applying the highest safe concentration of superthrive 2-3 times throughout the veg stage it might be possible to accomplish some really impressive root structures (no idea about the science but it seems like it would make sense). Also, to be fair OP does have pics of healthy plants he claims he gave this dose of ST to. It would seem strange for him to lie about it... For now Ill stick with the recommended dosage or less (growing in bubbleponics so even more worried about ODing on ST) but a hugely helpful thread none the less. Also i can only be so mad at op about the kinda dickish google comment since he did go out of his way to educate me for free.

peace.

 

[Windowshaker]

I'm kinda kicking a dead horse here but... I Googled "Using super-thrive with cannabis" and this was the first post. Good info though and as much as op ratios do seem really high. There is food for thought in the idea that by applying the highest safe concentration of superthrive 2-3 times throughout the veg stage it might be possible to accomplish some really impressive root structures (no idea about the science but it seems like it would make sense). Also, to be fair OP does have pics of healthy plants he claims he gave this dose of ST to. It would seem strange for him to lie about it... For now Ill stick with the recommended dosage or less (growing in bubbleponics so even more worried about ODing on ST) but a hugely helpful thread none the less. Also i can only be so mad at op about the kinda dickish google comment since he did go out of his way to educate me for free.

peace.

Some people in this thread have claimed some pretty out there stuff. blaming Superthrive for killing plants etc. Too many people have used it for that to be true. I believe it may have been another factor in many of these cases. One controversial grower Dr. Bud Greengenes' recipe called for it start to finish at 4 drops per gallon. And many people reported success with the recipe. I have been led to believe by people who should know the facts that, Superthrive should be avoided during flowering because it can have an undesirable flavor in the end product. With that in mind I have backed of to using it on young plants clones and at transplant etc.

 

[StankyDankMaster]

Yeah thx a lot man! This a product I use after a transplant or w sick plants! But I would use it my first few weeks of flowering to adjust it to the room! Thanks for the info buddy! Happy growing!!

 

[budman111]

Instructions on how to use Superthrive:

Open bin and insert Superthrive. Simple. Snakeoil.

 

[ricky1lung]

I googled superthive cannabis and this thread was the first in line. ( I could have just
started a new thread but it is better to update the post in googles top spot IMO for
future googler's)

So yes I know it is old, and after reading all of the posts it seems that at the time
of the OP the opinions were quite conflicting.

So now after as much time has gone by what is the ST consensus from
the users.

How much, how often and is it worth it?