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rocejize

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So i have these 6 AK-47 clones and 2 random seedlings that i was originally going to try some LST methods with but instead the ones growing i FIM'd and just went with it. Now i have 8 plants in a 2x5 closet and it is very crowded. I don't believe i have enough to try for a SOG method, however im not exactly sure the min and max or procedure to pull that off.

My question is: What is the best strategy at this point to get these to grow comfortably and make the best green possible (yield and quality)? I just grew some AK-47 and the results were very poor (bud was super dry, crumbly almost, taste more like grass than bud and the smell was off as AK-47 is supposed to have a strong sandalwood smell and yet i got a grassy smell). Throughout the grow i waited for the trichs but my plants were 6 weeks behind schedule so i took the partially cloudly trichs and harvested. Anyways, i don't want this grow to turn into that considering i have 8 plants this time. I have heard that if you crowd them they won't grow great so what are my options with my current grow.
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Thank you for any help.
 
StewartWarner

StewartWarner

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could spread the pots out a little and rig up some kind of DIY light mover with an occulating fan and a stick ;) ive seen it done but cant remember where the link is. Good luck man
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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I think I would cut out the whole under growth. A good 3rd of the plant from the bottom up should go. Maybe slightly under half.
Actually it's a must u do that. Some far u have an awesome grow going. Good work.
 
Balzac89

Balzac89

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a mongo frog said:
I think I would cut out the whole under growth. A good 3rd of the plant from the bottom up should go. Maybe slightly under half.
Actually it's a must u do that. Some far u have an awesome grow going. Good work.
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The idea of trimming plants is ridiculous in my book. If a plant wasn't utilizing a leaf for the purpose of collecting energy it would die. More leaves equals more energy equals more growth equals more bud. Removing any leave diminishes growth.

It's like when I hear old growers telling me I should tear of fan leaves when the plant goes into flower. That is plain old laughable.
 
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djburns1

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looks like great even canopy control. I would follow MongoFrogs advise and strip the lower 1/3 of any growth and keep the canopy just like you have it. I also encourage you to do a lot of research in the harvesting and curing thread. The best buds in the world can end up like yours if you don/t pay attention. Keep up the good work and you'll be rewarded. Growing and harvesting great buds isn't for the lazy, it takes work!

if you check out Balzac it appears he is an outdoor guerrila grower so IF you were growing outside his advice would be appropriate also but not so much for indoor.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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Balzac89 said:
The idea of trimming plants is ridiculous in my book. If a plant wasn't utilizing a leaf for the purpose of collecting energy it would die. More leaves equals more energy equals more growth equals more bud. Removing any leave diminishes growth.

It's like when I hear old growers telling me I should tear of fan leaves when the plant goes into flower. That is plain old laughable.
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This guy is not serious. I promise do not take this advice. Although he is a good guy, if u listen to him u will have a ton of sub par bud with your light coverage. Pleas cut the bottom third.
 
Balzac89

Balzac89

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a mongo frog said:
This guy is not serious. I promise do not take this advice. Although he is a good guy, if u listen to him u will have a ton of sub par bud with your light coverage. Pleas cut the bottom third.
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Do what Mongo say butcher your plants i'm sure that will help with yield. makes sense.
 
Balzac89

Balzac89

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If I was that worried I would remove 2 plants and or get some secondary lights to support growth on the sides
 
Balzac89

Balzac89

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djburns1 said:
looks like great even canopy control. I would follow MongoFrogs advise and strip the lower 1/3 of any growth and keep the canopy just like you have it. I also encourage you to do a lot of research in the harvesting and curing thread. The best buds in the world can end up like yours if you don/t pay attention. Keep up the good work and you'll be rewarded. Growing and harvesting great buds isn't for the lazy, it takes work!

if you check out Balzac it appears he is an outdoor guerrila grower so IF you were growing outside his advice would be appropriate also but not so much for indoor.
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I be a GG mate. I also dabble in indoor I just don't promote it on here
 
Balzac89

Balzac89

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I get what you guys are saying. Trying to make the plant densest nearest the light to promote good Bud Growth. I understand the idea. I just don't promote violence towards plants. It's wrong.
 
420God

420God

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Balzac89 said:
I get what you guys are saying. Trying to make the plant densest nearest the light to promote good Bud Growth. I understand the idea. I just don't promote violence towards plants. It's wrong.
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That's cool but we're not growing plants under normal environmental conditions. We're focusing light onto just the main canopy so that's where we need to direct to best bud growth. The undergrowth will just be light and airy without trimming and all the extra foliage will restrict air flow increasing chances of rot and mold.
 
past times

past times

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There are a few other threads argueing pruning and thinning out your plants...That is a bit of the issue here, but there are some bigger issues with your grow. What size light are you using? WHere are you in the grow (Looks like a couple weeks of flower) Light power decreases exponentially as you move father from the bulb. Thus, smaller bulbs have much smaller, optimum grow depth/coverage. In small light settings, the shorter you can make the plants the better. This normally requires some kind of training during veg state (NOT FLOWER). For your next grow, check out topping or LSTing.


This grow, Your plants do look nice and healthy, and if they are at about 2-3 weeks flower, you wont see much more vertical growth...which is good for you. That light does look small so really you shouldn't expect great buds on the bottom half of the plant. If i left them i would use them for hash...But i normally don't leave them, I usually prune the bottom 1/3 of buddage at about 2-3 weeks flower. I try to leave most of the fan leaves (As long as they aren't touhing the soil or blocking airflow to middle of plant. I think this is a good compromise becuase you still get most of your work horse fan leaves/fuel reserves for plant. But at the same time your actual bud growth is all at the top where your plant is going to be healthiest. Later on in flowering you may see the plant drop these lower fan leaves....That is ok and normal as the non-trimmers stated.
 
past times

past times

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Balzac89 said:
I get what you guys are saying. Trying to make the plant densest nearest the light to promote good Bud Growth. I understand the idea. I just don't promote violence towards plants. It's wrong.
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Minor pruning is not violence...Look at horticulture across the board. Dead-heading. Clipping old growth to promote new branching growth. Promotes vigour and new growth http://www.heirloomroses.com/care/dead-heading/, just an example
 
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Cannabinoids

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well they look to be creeping on 3 or 4 weeks of flowering. any triming at this point will hurt ur yeild...best bet is to addside lighting andtuck fan leafs to exspose more bud sites spread the plants out as much as possible...it ok if the plants touch the walls


lastly...next grow just grow 1 plant and either top 4 time or lst/scrog it....i can get 32 tops/colas (half a lb min) in a 2x4 space with topping once and lstin x amount of tops wanted then addin a scrog net then super crop and lollipop before puting into flower


hope this helps
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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Cannabinoids said:
well they look to be creeping on 3 or 4 weeks of flowering. any triming at this point will hurt ur yeild...best bet is to addside lighting andtuck fan leafs to exspose more bud sites spread the plants out as much as possible...it ok if the plants touch the walls


lastly...next grow just grow 1 plant and either top 4 time or lst/scrog it....i can get 32 tops/colas (half a lb min) in a 2x4 space with topping once and lstin x amount of tops wanted then addin a scrog net then super crop and lollipop before puting into flower


hope this helps
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Cutting out the bottom in week 3-4 is exactly the time u want to do it. U saying it will hurt this yield is setting this guy up for pm bud mold and just overall crapy bottom buds.
 
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