TGA/SUBCOOL ever dabble in autos?
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Cyproz
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have no fear if i had the space and were in maybe a legal state, i would be buying his strains. I just need this quick and small.
W Dragon
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Highly doubt it he can't even stabilise the strains he's been working for years never mind an auto lol
probably the reason he won't work with fems aswell because he'd have no excuse when most of them turned male or hermie.
Also on a side note auto's are a crap shoot as you can't keep a mother, a solid indica cloned and flipped will probably work out alot better in the long run as you won't have to waste money on poor pheno's and non auto's and after your first run you will no what the end result will be with a cloned photo period plant I'd just look around for good breeders with solid lines such as serious seeds etc.
P.s I know someone will want to bash me for this post talking about tga negatively but before you do look at what goes into his crosses and look at the variation and the hermie reports that are everywhere, poly-hybrids and a pollen chucker doesn't equal stability or consistent quality.
probably the reason he won't work with fems aswell because he'd have no excuse when most of them turned male or hermie.
Also on a side note auto's are a crap shoot as you can't keep a mother, a solid indica cloned and flipped will probably work out alot better in the long run as you won't have to waste money on poor pheno's and non auto's and after your first run you will no what the end result will be with a cloned photo period plant I'd just look around for good breeders with solid lines such as serious seeds etc.
P.s I know someone will want to bash me for this post talking about tga negatively but before you do look at what goes into his crosses and look at the variation and the hermie reports that are everywhere, poly-hybrids and a pollen chucker doesn't equal stability or consistent quality.
coppershot
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I have to agree. While you may get some decent mothers with TGA gear, you have to go through a few packs to find that gem. Don't waste your money on that crap because there are so many other breeders doing it better. TGA genetics are not stable.
W Dragon
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I honestly have never grown them mate, so really wouldn't know about there finishing times, I have been tempted in the past just to see but can't get past the fact that even if you do find something great you can't keep it to make up for the bad that gets grown out alongside it, I know in the last few years they have been worked and stabilised alot more than when I was originally looking, sadly I haven't seen many good grows with them but am looking forward to the day I do, until then I think it's clones as the strain I currently have can be flipped once rooted still produce 1-2oz and be finished in 8wks but that is a 20+year old strain.
puffdatchronic
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Omg for real? fems are for pussies?
I have never heard a bigger bunch of bullshit.It requires about 3 brain cells to sex cannabis plants.Fems guarantee you have females ,absolutley fantastic for those who wish to grow 1 or 2 or 3 plants.. what am i a pussy because i don't want 1 of my 2 plants to be a male?
if thats his motto he can stick his seeds up his ass as far as im concerned
tags420
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That is pretty much the definition of a troll post but I won't bash yet...just wondering what TGA strains you have ran to talk like that??? A little more variation than others I agree to an extent but no herms or auto in any of my packs or from close friends of mine. Most of their strains are poly hybrids and that is where the variation comes from cause they are more like/closer to f2' because of the mixed genetics of the parent strains.
It's obvious this guy(cyproz) needs a quicker, stealthy kinda of grow and like TGA, though it is not your cup of tea(auto's aren't mine either), he was asking for help with his situation.
W Dragon
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You said auto's plural so I just assumed you had space for multiple plants mate and thought I'd simply offer another suggestion that may avoid you some headaches down the line, I never stopped to look at how long you have bee on the site and just assumed you were new to growing due to the question.
here's a thread that has other threads stemming from it regarding auto's mate https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/199319-autoflower-thread-resource-guide.html I've read the entire thread and there are some nice pics in there and also a grower named rhys I believe has a thread that you get to in that thread grows some tidy ak47 auto's.
W Dragon
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Reading it back I can see why it may look like a troll post but it definitely wasn't meant to be or come across like it, I have nothing against sub or the nerds and I have no doubt good pheno's exist in his strains, I'm not going to get into an argument about breeding practices or how stable his strains are, The man himself (sub) has shown his breeding techniques and lists his strains used in his crosses so there in my mind is nothing to argue about it's out there for all to see how stable and well worked his strains are.
To answer your question honestly, no I have never grown any of his strains and until he works them further nor would I, I would like to try some of his strains down the line providing they were a little more stable and when I first started out was very tempted to until I started doing my homework, It's no secret that TGA has had some hermies and there is alot of pheno variation due to the crosses involved, I never meant to imply any auto probs with his gear and haven't heard of any of his strains having auto probs.
Like you said mate obviously not my cup of tea but I have nothing against him just prefer a more stable grow and like I said to the op like an ass I just assumed he was new to growing due to the question as any body who reads subs threads knows he doesn't dabble in fems etc
Cyproz
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Ok first of this is my first auto grow not my first grow. I know nothing about autoflowers because i havent grown any yet. I have grown for about 3-4 years total. I know what i like and what i want to do. I just dont know anything about autos which is why i asked this question, i also have had great experience with TGA so i thought maybe he has come out with some autos.
I left out i am running 2 plants at a time. So sea of green method W.Dragon is talking about isnt possible. I have a small tent. That being said i love SEA of green method. I used it once or twice.
But right now in my situation i have limited space and want to grow autos.
I left out i am running 2 plants at a time. So sea of green method W.Dragon is talking about isnt possible. I have a small tent. That being said i love SEA of green method. I used it once or twice.
But right now in my situation i have limited space and want to grow autos.
OGEvilgenius
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OGEvilgenius
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Since you have no experience with them and it sounds like you don't actually have to grow them I'm just gonna tell you that they are significantly lower quality and you should probably grow normally (if you use your tent to veg and flower you can do this while using the same space).
Nizza
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if you like autos so much try breeding them, im sure it isnt that hard. also try "squaring" and look into the advanced cultivating section if you wanan figure out how to check pheno's and stuff. if you do things right you should be able to breed a cross that will do 100% autos. most people end up with 25% though.
W Dragon
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OGEvilgenius
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Yeah, veg 2 weeks and you're sitting around a similar harvest time as most decent autos. I guess you'd still have to keep a mom somewhere but it really wouldn't have to be very big if you're growing 2 plants. You could probably keep it under a 26w CFL.