How do I get to heaven? Answers to your questions on eternal life.

[OldGrowth420]

So special you must feel for God to cater to you personally while simultaneously allowing evil to flourish in the world.

If you knew anything at all about the human condition, you would realize all of this is a product of your own psyche.

You feel it because you want to feel it. You attribute your feelings to a god because you want it to be real. It can't be anything else because you already know​ it's Jesus. Forget about all the inconsistencies, all the hatred and misogyny, all the racism and homophobic rhetoric, all the pain, torture and human sacrifice ancient desert dwellers came up with millennia ago that has gone on the past 2,000 years..

...as long as it makes you feel better.




This is a case of complete selfishness, and you're definitely not alone. You, and a billion other Christians would rather feel content about oblivion, even if it isn't true, than grant equal treatment to humanity.


I honestly can't think of anything more selfish than that.

How is it that you are so bold as to think you know what I am experiencing?

 

[OldGrowth420]

Good night and God bless you.

Heisenberg, I had another vision.. And the outcome was absolutely different. I saw heavenly light and angel wings.
Keep questioning reality.

Just say Jesus save me.

 

[tyler.durden]

for one, every time i sin.. God afflicts me or makes me feel bad.
Right now i have the most splitting spiritual headache because i watched some movies and shows he didn't want me to watch.
I'm a spiritually sensitive person, and i often feel evil around me.. And when i do i say come lord jesus, and i feel him enter the room and take away the evil presences.
I see my prayers get answered, often instantly.
I pray for god to help me with pain and i feel a spiritual sensation on my body and the pain subsides.
I ask forgiveness for my sins and i feel cleansed and healed.
I read the bible and it washed my spirit and cleanses me.
When i do what the bible says to do it improves my life, and i feel joy welling up from within, as i am being blessed for following god's will.

I'm here to help you, there is no reason for all the negativity and hostility.
I started this thread to talk about christianity and the path to heaven.

how is it that you are so bold as to think you know what i am experiencing?

wtf?!!!!!!!!!

 

[Heisenberg]

Heisenberg, I had another vision.. And the outcome was absolutely different. I saw heavenly light and angel wings.
Keep questioning reality.

 

[Padawanbater2]

How is it that you are so bold as to think you know what I am experiencing?

I don't know what you are experiencing, I know what you're not.

 

[OldGrowth420]

So we have this argument..
One side claims they know the absolute truth based upon the lack of personal experience.
The other side claims to know the absolute truth based on personal experience.
One cannot prove or disprove what another may or may not be experiencing.

I think what you should observe is the behavior of the individuals.

You can know a tree based upon it's fruit.

Galatians 5:22-23

New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, [SUP]23 [/SUP]gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

The Spirit, in this verse, is the Holy Spirit of God. Dwelling in the believers of Jesus
Christ

 

[OldGrowth420]

[video=youtube;mOc1ko00YiI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOc1ko00YiI[/video]

 

[OldGrowth420]

[video=youtube;3Wok4OgFW1g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wok4OgFW1g[/video]

 

[tyler.durden]

How did people argue for Jesus before YouTube?

 

[Beefbisquit]

Those videos are whack. If prayer works why did the doctors keep working as per normal medical guidelines?

If people REALLY believed that prayer worked, they wouldn't take people to hospitals in the first place.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

OMFG THIS IS SO FUNNY!!!!!!

At first dude was like, you guys are going to fucking BUUUURN! And now he's like... you guys are going to heaven! What a fucking joke, Oldbitch you need to find a fucking girlfriend...

...shit, i forgot my vision, outcome does not look good. lmfao! here comes the ROFL-COPTER! ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL!!!!

 

[BeanyBud]

Everyone should have they're own system of beliefs please stop pushing your agenda on us with fear of eternal punishment

 

[Dislexicmidget2021]

OG ,,I know this may be of little relevance ,just how old are you?Pure and simple question.Dont be scared to answer its ok.

 

[Padawanbater2]

So we have this argument..
One side claims they know the absolute truth based upon the lack of personal experience.
The other side claims to know the absolute truth based on personal experience.
One cannot prove or disprove what another may or may not be experiencing.

I think what you should observe is the behavior of the individuals.

You can know a tree based upon it's fruit.

How would you determine if someone was simply making it up?

Couldn't anyone just say exactly what you're saying and attribute it to a different god?

for one, every time i sin.. Allah afflicts me or makes me feel bad.Right now i have the most splitting spiritual headache because i watched some movies and shows he didn't want me to watch.
I'm a spiritually sensitive person, and i often feel evil around me.. And when i do i say come Muhammad, and i feel him enter the room and take away the evil presences.
I see my prayers get answered, often instantly.
I pray for Allah to help me with pain and i feel a spiritual sensation on my body and the pain subsides.
I ask forgiveness for my sins and i feel cleansed and healed.
I read the Quran and it washed my spirit and cleanses me.
When i do what the Quran says to do it improves my life, and i feel joy welling up from within, as i am being blessed for following Allah's will.

Furthermore, who is anyone to say with any kind of certainty what you're experiencing is definitely something spiritual? Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume if you have some kind of preconceived expectation of what you think a spiritual experience would feel like, then for whatever reason you felt it, be it because something spiritual actually happened to you or because your mind made you thi something spiritual happened to you, you'd think something spiritual actually did happen to you?

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

Some times i ask Jesus to give me a big hug when i feel bad, and i feel his embrace and feel better.
I just say (believing totally it will happen) Jesus please give me a big hug in Jesus name amen.

*Also Zaehet Strife i had a vision that you and Chief Walkin Eagle went to heaven,
I also had a vision that Heisenberg went to hell.

LOL that is too funny... I talked shit about the Holy Ghost though... Jesus must love me too much I guess.

 

[NietzscheKeen]

@ Zaehet, your Bertrand Russell profile pic makes me smile. He's always kinda been the grandpa I never had, lol.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

LOL that is too funny... I talked shit about the Holy Ghost though... Jesus must love me too much I guess.

Yeah super weird, i was raised a christian and turned away from religion all together once i started thinking for myself... i thought that was an instant ticket to hell. I am a good person though, maybe i just got lucky huh? Weeeiiirrd.

 

[OldGrowth420]

OG ,,I know this may be of little relevance ,just how old are you?Pure and simple question.Dont be scared to answer its ok.

I'm 24 July 1st 1988

 

[OldGrowth420]

How would you determine if someone was simply making it up?

Couldn't anyone just say exactly what you're saying and attribute it to a different god?



Furthermore, who is anyone to say with any kind of certainty what you're experiencing is definitely something spiritual? Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume if you have some kind of preconceived expectation of what you think a spiritual experience would feel like, then for whatever reason you felt it, be it because something spiritual actually happened to you or because your mind made you thi something spiritual happened to you, you'd think something spiritual actually did happen to you?

Question 1, I'm not sure what you are talking about. But i'm guessing you are asking me how to know if a person is lying or not. I think that just takes personal experience and wisdom.

Question 2, i suppose that could happen. I suppose people could just about say anything.

Question 3, everything i do is an experiment, while i believe i don't necessarily expect a certain result. After thousands of spiritual experiences, my belief is concrete and is no longer based upon results. I assure you, the sensations i am feeling are outside of my being and are indeed spiritual.

 

[NietzscheKeen]

I was studying to become a preacher. There are several articles I'd written, but for the sake of remaining anonymous... I won't share them. After actually studying the Bible I was searching for answers to the incoherent stories and teachings; many of which were actually contradictory. Anyway, I'm an atheist now and I think that if everyone would actually study the Bible and I mean really STUDY and be honest with themselves about what they are reading and how it makes them feel... there would be a lot more atheists in this world.