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angryblackman
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Darkdrae
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welcome all,
i watered today so i decided to take some pics while i had the lights pulled up
A couple of them seem to have some yellow/browsing on a leaf. Its a bottom one on all of the effected ones, and its just 1 leaf on each one. Does it look like nute burn? only nutes would be anything the FF soil has in it and some seaweed extract
besides those couple of leafs though everything is looking awesome. they have started to grow some side branches, 9this one has the most so far)
i topped a couple for experiments sake
This one is my favorite
i only need about 12 so hopefully that many will turn out female and survive(they better, im having to live under 24/0 light with them) you can see my bed in the first pic, sucks sleeping with the light in my face but oh well its worth it.
i watered today so i decided to take some pics while i had the lights pulled up
A couple of them seem to have some yellow/browsing on a leaf. Its a bottom one on all of the effected ones, and its just 1 leaf on each one. Does it look like nute burn? only nutes would be anything the FF soil has in it and some seaweed extract
besides those couple of leafs though everything is looking awesome. they have started to grow some side branches, 9this one has the most so far)
i topped a couple for experiments sake
This one is my favorite
i only need about 12 so hopefully that many will turn out female and survive(they better, im having to live under 24/0 light with them) you can see my bed in the first pic, sucks sleeping with the light in my face but oh well its worth it.
Darkdrae
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so i couldn't sleep last night so started messing around in Photoshop putting together a rough sketch of what i want to do for my indoor growing area
Alright so what this is, i want to build a grow area 12ft long X 3ft deep X 7 or 8ft tall.
its mostly modeled after the thread get a harvest every 2 weeks. I have the 6 different areas each area 2'X3'X7'
each area except for the clones has 2 containers, 1 res and 1 grow container with each one containing the spray nozzels and pump for aero.
the clone area in the middle is a bit different. i live is the la area and summers here can get into the triple digits and i dont have ac here. So i already know the main problem im gonna have with doing aero or hydro here is my rez tanks will get too warm and root rot and other nasty crap will occur. So while looking through the DIY i found a thread about a cheap cooler for rez tanks. And what it does he took a mini fridge and had a pump pumping the water from the rez through a tube that gos into the fridge and wraps around the middle rack that is in between the fridge and freezer part, the water is then sent back to the rez and he said he keeps an easy constant 68 i think he said. So what i did was set up the mini fridge under the clones(clones dont need a double chamber i think since they will only be rooting in it) i then have a shelf the fridge is sitting on, and under the shelf i have 6 pumps that are circulating the water to each individual rez. The biggest problem i see with this is the ones that are farther away, that is alot of hose it has to go through, it may not be able to keep it cool. Alright so anyways that is what the fridge is about.
Since i would want to do this SCROG style ill have to attach a pvc frame of some type to each lid for the screen to go on, in the picture the yellow bars are the pvc frame the red lines are the scrog nets.
so every 2 weeks when they needed to be switched to the new "room" i would just pull the lid off the container with plants,roots scrog net and all, and put it on the next one.(do roots wrap themselves around the pvc frame in aero systems? that is a problem i can see running into when i got to switch them to the next room)
So the room would be made out of 1x2s or 2x4s. If i decide to put plywood over the frame then ill use 2x4s, but if i just attach the mylar right to the frame ill use 1x2s. so the walls will either be just mylar or plywood covered in mylar. There will be a fan behind each plant blowing the heat out through a vent in each door(ill cover the vent during 12/12 dark since the lights wont be creating heat anyways)
Mother Station:i have a 2ft t5 2 bulb running 24/0
Clone Station: same as mother station(darkness for first 8 or so hours after clones first go in)
0-2 week station: T5 2 ft 2 bulb 12/12
2-4 week station: 150w hps 2 56k 23ws 2 5k 23ws 12/12
4-6 week station: 150w hps 2 56k 23ws 2 5k 23ws 12/12
6-8 week station: 2 150w hps 2 56k 23ws 2 5k 23ws 12/12( i read buds get most dense in the last 2 weeks so i figured id throw 2 150ws in there.
i know it isnt a ton of light in each area but for a 2'x3' Scrog with 2 plants i think i can get a decent 2-3 ounces every 2 weeks i think.
anyways enough stoned rambling for now
Alright so what this is, i want to build a grow area 12ft long X 3ft deep X 7 or 8ft tall.
its mostly modeled after the thread get a harvest every 2 weeks. I have the 6 different areas each area 2'X3'X7'
each area except for the clones has 2 containers, 1 res and 1 grow container with each one containing the spray nozzels and pump for aero.
the clone area in the middle is a bit different. i live is the la area and summers here can get into the triple digits and i dont have ac here. So i already know the main problem im gonna have with doing aero or hydro here is my rez tanks will get too warm and root rot and other nasty crap will occur. So while looking through the DIY i found a thread about a cheap cooler for rez tanks. And what it does he took a mini fridge and had a pump pumping the water from the rez through a tube that gos into the fridge and wraps around the middle rack that is in between the fridge and freezer part, the water is then sent back to the rez and he said he keeps an easy constant 68 i think he said. So what i did was set up the mini fridge under the clones(clones dont need a double chamber i think since they will only be rooting in it) i then have a shelf the fridge is sitting on, and under the shelf i have 6 pumps that are circulating the water to each individual rez. The biggest problem i see with this is the ones that are farther away, that is alot of hose it has to go through, it may not be able to keep it cool. Alright so anyways that is what the fridge is about.
Since i would want to do this SCROG style ill have to attach a pvc frame of some type to each lid for the screen to go on, in the picture the yellow bars are the pvc frame the red lines are the scrog nets.
so every 2 weeks when they needed to be switched to the new "room" i would just pull the lid off the container with plants,roots scrog net and all, and put it on the next one.(do roots wrap themselves around the pvc frame in aero systems? that is a problem i can see running into when i got to switch them to the next room)
So the room would be made out of 1x2s or 2x4s. If i decide to put plywood over the frame then ill use 2x4s, but if i just attach the mylar right to the frame ill use 1x2s. so the walls will either be just mylar or plywood covered in mylar. There will be a fan behind each plant blowing the heat out through a vent in each door(ill cover the vent during 12/12 dark since the lights wont be creating heat anyways)
Mother Station:i have a 2ft t5 2 bulb running 24/0
Clone Station: same as mother station(darkness for first 8 or so hours after clones first go in)
0-2 week station: T5 2 ft 2 bulb 12/12
2-4 week station: 150w hps 2 56k 23ws 2 5k 23ws 12/12
4-6 week station: 150w hps 2 56k 23ws 2 5k 23ws 12/12
6-8 week station: 2 150w hps 2 56k 23ws 2 5k 23ws 12/12( i read buds get most dense in the last 2 weeks so i figured id throw 2 150ws in there.
i know it isnt a ton of light in each area but for a 2'x3' Scrog with 2 plants i think i can get a decent 2-3 ounces every 2 weeks i think.
anyways enough stoned rambling for now
RollUpMikey
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You've really done your homework.
This setup is cool and all but the maintenance seems like a headache and then some. Too many moving parts in the equation for my liking.
This setup is cool and all but the maintenance seems like a headache and then some. Too many moving parts in the equation for my liking.
Darkdrae
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true it is alot, i know i def wouldnt be able to do it right now anyways because of how much power it would draw, i could switch it to soil and that would get rid of more then half the crap right there haha, i might be able to run that right now if i did it with soil
RollUpMikey
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Yeah try it out buddy.
The setup you're trying to achieve in flower is similar to mine right now. It seems like it'd be a weak ass setup when you go to explain it to somebody... But it honestly does damage. You're def. on the right track. Setup: Dual 150w HPS's, 4 big CFL's in each corner adding supplemental spectrum.
The setup you're trying to achieve in flower is similar to mine right now. It seems like it'd be a weak ass setup when you go to explain it to somebody... But it honestly does damage. You're def. on the right track. Setup: Dual 150w HPS's, 4 big CFL's in each corner adding supplemental spectrum.
RollUpMikey
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There is a guy that pulls a unit off of 2 plants, and a 400w HPS on YouTube that gets them huge, then scrogs them high up. It's your preference.
Growing is your art form and your way of perceiving what you've learned through past experiences. I, like less plant #'s, but big ladies. You might love to do a SOG with 20 plants and hope for 200g. Find what will work best for you, and stick with it. It all becomes routine after a while.
Growing is your art form and your way of perceiving what you've learned through past experiences. I, like less plant #'s, but big ladies. You might love to do a SOG with 20 plants and hope for 200g. Find what will work best for you, and stick with it. It all becomes routine after a while.
Darkdrae
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oh that sounds cool do you remember his name so i can look that up. yea i hear ya, im the same way,id rather deal with less plants. My bro had some one report him a couple years ago here when he was growing and the cops showed up and asked to see the plants and looked through his phone and glanced around inside and shit. He only had like 11 though and him and his roommate both had a card so the cops were like ok thanks for the cooperation and left. so just in case they find out again id like to stick as close to legal as i can, in amounts. When i go and re-up my script in june i think im gonna try to get him to sign off on more plants for me
RollUpMikey
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There are A Lot of grey areas in this industry. If for some reason (knock on wood) anybody ever got popped for having too many plants, they would have to do their best to explain to the judge that they need to grow a certain amount so it's able to last you a full year, since the outdoor season only comes once a year. That person has needs that need to met and going over a couple should be looked over.
this is just awesome thanks for that visualso i couldn't sleep last night so started messing around in Photoshop putting together a rough sketch of what i want to do for my indoor growing area
Alright so what this is, i want to build a grow area 12ft long X 3ft deep X 7 or 8ft tall.
its mostly modeled after the thread get a harvest every 2 weeks. I have the 6 different areas each area 2'X3'X7'
each area except for the clones has 2 containers, 1 res and 1 grow container with each one containing the spray nozzels and pump for aero.
the clone area in the middle is a bit different. i live is the la area and summers here can get into the triple digits and i dont have ac here. So i already know the main problem im gonna have with doing aero or hydro here is my rez tanks will get too warm and root rot and other nasty crap will occur. So while looking through the DIY i found a thread about a cheap cooler for rez tanks. And what it does he took a mini fridge and had a pump pumping the water from the rez through a tube that gos into the fridge and wraps around the middle rack that is in between the fridge and freezer part, the water is then sent back to the rez and he said he keeps an easy constant 68 i think he said. So what i did was set up the mini fridge under the clones(clones dont need a double chamber i think since they will only be rooting in it) i then have a shelf the fridge is sitting on, and under the shelf i have 6 pumps that are circulating the water to each individual rez. The biggest problem i see with this is the ones that are farther away, that is alot of hose it has to go through, it may not be able to keep it cool. Alright so anyways that is what the fridge is about.
Since i would want to do this SCROG style ill have to attach a pvc frame of some type to each lid for the screen to go on, in the picture the yellow bars are the pvc frame the red lines are the scrog nets.
so every 2 weeks when they needed to be switched to the new "room" i would just pull the lid off the container with plants,roots scrog net and all, and put it on the next one.(do roots wrap themselves around the pvc frame in aero systems? that is a problem i can see running into when i got to switch them to the next room)
So the room would be made out of 1x2s or 2x4s. If i decide to put plywood over the frame then ill use 2x4s, but if i just attach the mylar right to the frame ill use 1x2s. so the walls will either be just mylar or plywood covered in mylar. There will be a fan behind each plant blowing the heat out through a vent in each door(ill cover the vent during 12/12 dark since the lights wont be creating heat anyways)
Mother Station:i have a 2ft t5 2 bulb running 24/0
Clone Station: same as mother station(darkness for first 8 or so hours after clones first go in)
0-2 week station: T5 2 ft 2 bulb 12/12
2-4 week station: 150w hps 2 56k 23ws 2 5k 23ws 12/12
4-6 week station: 150w hps 2 56k 23ws 2 5k 23ws 12/12
6-8 week station: 2 150w hps 2 56k 23ws 2 5k 23ws 12/12( i read buds get most dense in the last 2 weeks so i figured id throw 2 150ws in there.
i know it isnt a ton of light in each area but for a 2'x3' Scrog with 2 plants i think i can get a decent 2-3 ounces every 2 weeks i think.
anyways enough stoned rambling for now
Darkdrae
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haha thanks, and np, sleep deprivation and mj can create wonderful things
Darkdrae
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woot ordered seeds
KC Brains Danky Doodle
Auto Seeds Purple Cheese
Granddaddy Purple Seeds Original Grand Daddy Purple X2(sadly all they had was reg so here is hoping one is female)
Paradise Seeds Belladonna x5(had to buy a pack to get the 3 free atomical haze)
FEMINIZED UFO #1 Positronics Seeds Blue Rhino [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif](GIFT)
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FEMINIZED UFO #2 Positronics Seeds Caramel Ice [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif](GIFT)
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FEMINIZED UFO #3 Dinafem Seeds White Widow AUTO[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif] (GIFT)
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Paradise Seeds Atomical Haze X3 (GIFT)
now i play the waiting game, cant wait to get them and get them started
(if both the GDP are males im using them to pollinate something, GDPxDanky Doodle= grand daddy doodle or grand daddy dank haha)
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woot ordered seeds
KC Brains Danky Doodle
Auto Seeds Purple Cheese
Granddaddy Purple Seeds Original Grand Daddy Purple X2(sadly all they had was reg so here is hoping one is female)
Paradise Seeds Belladonna x5(had to buy a pack to get the 3 free atomical haze)
FEMINIZED UFO #1 Positronics Seeds Blue Rhino [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif](GIFT)
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FEMINIZED UFO #2 Positronics Seeds Caramel Ice [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif](GIFT)
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FEMINIZED UFO #3 Dinafem Seeds White Widow AUTO[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif] (GIFT)
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Paradise Seeds Atomical Haze X3 (GIFT)
now i play the waiting game, cant wait to get them and get them started
(if both the GDP are males im using them to pollinate something, GDPxDanky Doodle= grand daddy doodle or grand daddy dank haha)
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