HOLY F*$K 120x salvia

euthanatos93420

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When making extract you have the pure Salvinorum A which you then add to leaf. So you place 10 grams worth of extract onto one gram of leaf to make 10x extract.

But there must be a point where you extract so much Salvinorum A that it weighs a gram in itself... Im not even sure it would be a good idea to smoke that. If it was infact 120x then i imagine there cant have been much leaf in it...

Anyway i just harvested some Salvia and purchased some leaves to add to my extraction. I have 113 grams to be precise and plan to extract Salvinorum A from 112 grams of it and add it to one, there for making a "112X" extract. I'll have to get back to you and compare the trip man sounds like you had an intense one. I've left this world entirely on 40x alone..
You reach ~%80 purity at 100x. %100@~125x

The difference is truly negligable. Your math is a little off too. If you extract 112 grams worth and at it to the last gram, you'll have 113x. Standardized extractions are difficult to do and require a better set-up than non-standardized extractions. If you just make a 50x or so NS extractions....you should be more than good to go. At a certain point extraction becomes meaningless and redundant. In it's pure leaf form you could sit and smoke the shit all day and your lungs would say FUCK YOU before you got even close to high. At 20x you can easily get the dosage you're looking for without going overboard. at 40x & 50x You have to be fairly tolerant of the substance and still be good at measuring miniscule doses. Anything stronger is simply retarded.
 

Stealing

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I thought the max extract you could get of leaf stuff was 30x
and the 100% pure stuff was the 50x liquid extract..?
That's what I got from my salvia research anyway..

Salvia is one hell of an insane drug.. I did one hit of 20x and had a more intense trip then I woulda imagined. I thought I was getting pulled into the wall and into some alternate dimension by some shadow hands, and thought I was tacked to the wall and I was completely flat like a poster. Crazy shit man.
 

euthanatos93420

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Pure Sal-A is crystalline in form at RT.

Ratio of Sal-A to other matter in Avg leaf is something like 125:1 So the max purity comes oput to be at about 125x.

If he did smoke 122x I'm not sure why didnt just advertize it as pure (Or almost) Sal-A instead of 120x. Still.
 

Bamm Bamm

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probably wasn't 120x it was probably a cool advertising ply=) But hey I didn't pay for it my buddy did=)
 

euthanatos93420

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Well after doing a little research, 120x is about as close to pure Salvia as a GOOD kitchen Chemist can do. It's the cream of the crop though. It's what's extracted with the first COLD acetone wash in the extraction process. The quantity of which is further reduced by ISO wash. This is the purest product. Everything else extracted from the same batch of leaves will be much less pure.

'120x' is at the least, if not complete bullshit, a misrepresentation of the product. Moreover, if one possessed such a pure product, one is ridiculously idiotic to use it. The reason being that dosing is inaccurate at best. The purpose in using such a high potency is not to get 'higher' but to trip with less smoke inhalation. The following procedure (In short, use google to find more reference on this procedure), shows a means of using near pure Sal-A in a manner effective in achieving a near smokeless product with a fair and practical margin of accuracy.

Dissovle near pure Sal-A to maximum solubility in room temperature acetone. Use syringe to put drops onto a piece of CORN FIBER (MAIZE) cigarette paper (Can absorb more than regular cigarette papers). Let the paper dry, repeat till desired potency is achieved. If one should choose to pursue this endeavor, one should be much more familiar with the process than I have detailed here and should do INDEPENDANT RESEARCH.
 

thegigglepimp

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Euthanatos: Great research mate +rep I cant even begin to imagine how youd go about smoking pure salv A other than the cigarette paper method mentioned. It would have to be one tiny crumb in a pipe...
 

intensive

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damn, i just realized that i must have a hard head, or at least for salvia and other pyscho's like shrooms. when i smoked mine,i started laughin real hard and couldnt move, couldnt really make since outa everything, got real itchy and hot. but def. didnt change my perception of anything around me, just kinda slowed me down.

it takes 2-3 grams of shrooms for me to even see spinning tribal neon's floating on the walls

i knew i musta been immune or somthing, it didnt seem as great as everybody elses expirences
 

cream8

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take one hit in a bong and hold it in as long as you can. have a friend load the bong and fill up the chamber with smoke while you hold your breath. exhale then immdiatly clear the chamber in the waiting bong and hold that in...then .......blast into the volid of space time
 

Mushroom Mesiah

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I had some 20x... I broke through once, my first and only time doing this shit. I was alone in my room and packed like a .7 into my 20" bong, and took it all in at once. My last "sane" memory was letting out a huge cloud of smoke and leaning out my window feelinglike I was gonna puke and glancing at my cell phone clock... then came the experience.
I remember looking out at like this really desolate alienish landscape, like orangish clay with stuntedtrees n shit. I had the feeling of looking out of a body, but it wasn't my human body, and I felt like there were other beings somewhere close by watching but I couldn't see them. That part wasn't that bad. Then I had this feeling of being physically pulled across the landscape, faster and faster. The next part was the wierdest, hardest to desribe part, and the part that shook me to the core. I was being pulled out from underneath a bed, but it was like a hallway with the same thing repeating down it forever, squares of me being pulled out. I felt like there was a wire or string stretched tight across my open mouth, like at the corners of my lips, and it was an unexplainably unsettling feeling. I remember thinking that this was reality, and how the FUCK could I be expected to exist in a reality like this, I wanted to end it but I had no sense of my body, no clue of how to kill myself. I thought I would live in this forver, and justwanted a hug from my mother.
Then I was suddenly back to "reality" in my own room. I was on my floor holding on REALLy tightly to my bong. Somehow during the trip I'd taken of my hoodie and emptied the water from my bong out the window. I RAN out of my room and out of my house, feeling like I was the only person left alive on earth. I finally went back inside after like 5 minutes, but for a good 20 minutes after I was too shaky to even smoke anypot, plus I had this idea in my brain that i'd be launched back into the experience if I smoked.

scary, scary, scary shit.
Thats a nice description of a good Salvia trip.
 
yeah im with everybody else in saying that whoever told you it was 120x was bullshittin you and it was porlly 30x. 30x is the highest. Either way im sure you tripped your fuckin balls off because when i smoked a bong of that 30x i thought i was one of the fingers on a giant made out of humans.
I just had my first real experience on '120x' and felt like I was the ear on a giant made out of humans? as well as feeling like i was part of the room and the doorknob was connected to my side! ha all the while I was babbling about a beautiful statue (I definitely caught a glimpse of some sort of beautiful realm) Felt out of body. When i finally started to come too I was really confused and forgot aspects of reality. crazy shit!
 

dethyl

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Dude I've only done 20x and then 80x before this but i took one hit out of my mini bong and i had an out of body experience. It was fucking insane man. And apparently i was falling everywhere and i got kinda cut up from the ground. I probably will do it again. Just not anytime soon haha. You need the occasional mindfuck:hump: You know?
 

dethyl

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I just had my first real experience on '120x' and felt like I was the ear on a giant made out of humans? as well as feeling like i was part of the room and the doorknob was connected to my side! ha all the while I was babbling about a beautiful statue (I definitely caught a glimpse of some sort of beautiful realm) Felt out of body. When i finally started to come too I was really confused and forgot aspects of reality. crazy shit!
I felt the exact same! Did everything around you appear in spirals? And it's like when you would hit one thing you would become a part of it. but you would have to tear away. It just really trips me out cause i never thought I could perceive reality with eyes open and it be that way.
It's amazing what the brain can do.
 

PlantManBee

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I did the "red" extract once...no mas lol. i did it alone, toooooooo much lol. i read the instruction afterwards ha ha ha. i did a bong full, i mean FULL bowl. i remember taking the hit and my vision starting rotate, then i thought "not again!" (which is strange as i'd never done it before)...there were disembodied voices that seemed concerned. then i was inside the earth with all it's tearing geologic processes, lava, CRUSHING rocks... yeah, like Bamm Bamm ha ha ha. i was spat out at the bottom of the hill by my house...i came to laying on the ground covered in sweat.

anybody wants what i have left, let me know ha ha ha
 

sven deisel

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thats strange how sometimes it makes you sweat and sometimes it dont. everytime i do it it comes on like gravity is pulling my soul out of me then it goes from there i like it with the tv on i find most disturbing. i like when i merge with my sourndings and you have to pull yourself back into now. try it when your tripping its realy wild then. it dont take alot tho first time i did i thought no sence being a pussy and packed a whole bowl and hit it with a torch and it just knocked me out it freaked my woman out. not something for every day tho i have had the same gram sence xmas
 

mastakush

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It just means u need less! its not stronger, jus a smaller dose required, and easy to overdose ha i have extracted from X60 and will be like X500 or sumthing now :/
 

jester1989

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Salvia is a great legal drug, you turn retarded well your on it though. haha i drooled on myself and was tripping balls off of 20x.
 
i thought after the trip, was the wierdest. felt like something in the world wasnt exactly right...
Got you thinking didn't it. Hehe. What if something in your HEAD isn't right...? Scarier than something in the world not being right if you really think about it. Because maybe, the "world" is in your head.
 

c4d2x0x

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Thats a nice description of a good Salvia trip.
same exact wire feeling for me too. this was back in 2005. always wondered if anyone else experienced that. just wanted to die because I couldn't comprehend how I was going to live the rest of my life like that. weird and thank u
 
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