penguinking
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yeah ok. don't flush your weed. glad im not smoking or buying it...
Blue Dream 150w hps
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Sincerely420
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If u understood soil biology like you say you do you would get it bro.
And it's cool u glad about this and that. I am growing for myself tho. Not to sell.
As long as I don't see u advising ppl to dump peroxide on their soil I'm good lol.
Read a little more and you'll come to the understanding that the plants don't ingest the organic nutes directly to be flushed.
They get their food via bacteria and fungal excrement. And a good soil is gonna retain everything everything.
I'm on my shit learning how soil works and how to mix it. Mix a good soil and worry about NOTHING. Def. not a flush.
And I'm gone be smoking GOOD. Stay glad and stay tuned.
my bad for your thread jacking Range. Read into both sides and go from there.
SnotBoogie
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From what i understand no nutrients are actually stored in flowers, rendering flushing pretty unimportant
penguinking
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this is too funny. im happy you're "gone" be smoking good! join the club. I'm happy you've been reading so much! first hand experience helps quite a bit... dont get your panties in such a knot there, guy. peace - pk
Sincerely420
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Done with it bro. No point in discussing anything else.
I've said ALL that I have to and stand by ALL that I've said with reason.
And I don't wear panties. And I'm a boxer brief guy kid. They definitely don't knot up.
You're glad "your not smoking or buying my weed", and your" happy that I've been reading so much" and "that I'm gonna be smoking good", so my advice to you is to stay happy guy. Becuase you seem to be happy about a lot
I've said ALL that I have to and stand by ALL that I've said with reason.
And I don't wear panties. And I'm a boxer brief guy kid. They definitely don't knot up.
You're glad "your not smoking or buying my weed", and your" happy that I've been reading so much" and "that I'm gonna be smoking good", so my advice to you is to stay happy guy. Becuase you seem to be happy about a lot
Adonis
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thus forcing the plant to use the last of its resources and fully mature.
What is your science based on? Can you explain it?
everyone i know who grows flushes their plants. period.
I do not flush my plants, I grow organically with soil I make. Everyone used to use DDT too but we all saw where that led. The similar action of a group of people is no guarantee of it's legitimacy. Flushing seems to work well for you, so you should keep doing it, flushing is not part of our process but that works well for us. Making the blanket statement that soil must be flushed, and pot is better because of it is too sweeping a generality. My soil thrives because I do just the opposite of flushing, I let the soil rejuvenate itself. A smart person would be successful with all growing techniques. Penguin it seems you have a head for horticulture, you should take it to a higher level, no pun intended.
What is your science based on? Can you explain it?
everyone i know who grows flushes their plants. period.
I do not flush my plants, I grow organically with soil I make. Everyone used to use DDT too but we all saw where that led. The similar action of a group of people is no guarantee of it's legitimacy. Flushing seems to work well for you, so you should keep doing it, flushing is not part of our process but that works well for us. Making the blanket statement that soil must be flushed, and pot is better because of it is too sweeping a generality. My soil thrives because I do just the opposite of flushing, I let the soil rejuvenate itself. A smart person would be successful with all growing techniques. Penguin it seems you have a head for horticulture, you should take it to a higher level, no pun intended.
penguinking
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sincerely, i am happy. very happy. whos arguing? whats my science based on my theory of flushing to helps plants finish and mature? Trial and error I suppose? Read absolutely any marijuana horticulture book. The problem is that people are going to read this thread and think, "hey maybe i DONT need to be flushing my plants" ... Correlating the use of DDT (dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane) and a proper flush? makes this whole debate abject, and futile... I'm just happy that we can all agree that we enjoy to grow paramount nuggies.
Its tough to get a read on people over the internet behind an avatar. Having said that, I do not come from a place of acrimony,or dejection and hope nothin but the best for all of you and your fams- Much love. PK
post script: I never ONCE advised you to pour h202 on your plants. Sincerely, you asked me how it would be possible to kill your microherd and flush them. So I gave you one way to do so. Did I EVER suggest doing it? by no means...
Its tough to get a read on people over the internet behind an avatar. Having said that, I do not come from a place of acrimony,or dejection and hope nothin but the best for all of you and your fams- Much love. PK
post script: I never ONCE advised you to pour h202 on your plants. Sincerely, you asked me how it would be possible to kill your microherd and flush them. So I gave you one way to do so. Did I EVER suggest doing it? by no means...
DiscreteMeat
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From experience...
You need to either flush your weed at the end of the cycle or have a feeding system that is something like 1 day nutes/1 day water/2 days nothing. It can make a night and day difference in taste and smell - which should be important to a connoiseur.
The science is very simple. Consider a human body. When we eat, the food is digested. The nutrients are then loaded into our livers, where they are then dispatched to cells. Excess nutrients stay in the liver until the body needs them. Also, impurities are processed through our kidneys... If one doesn't drink enough water, those impurities and byproducts build up, causing our piss to turn orange.
This is much the same experience of a plant... Flushing eliminates toxic byproducts and excess nutrient build up. It's that simple.
Does it make a difference? Yes. Is it night and day in every instance? No. That depends on the average strength of the nutrient solution over the course of the grow.
You need to either flush your weed at the end of the cycle or have a feeding system that is something like 1 day nutes/1 day water/2 days nothing. It can make a night and day difference in taste and smell - which should be important to a connoiseur.
The science is very simple. Consider a human body. When we eat, the food is digested. The nutrients are then loaded into our livers, where they are then dispatched to cells. Excess nutrients stay in the liver until the body needs them. Also, impurities are processed through our kidneys... If one doesn't drink enough water, those impurities and byproducts build up, causing our piss to turn orange.
This is much the same experience of a plant... Flushing eliminates toxic byproducts and excess nutrient build up. It's that simple.
Does it make a difference? Yes. Is it night and day in every instance? No. That depends on the average strength of the nutrient solution over the course of the grow.
DiscreteMeat
Member
And H202 (Hydrogen Peroxide) is a good additive for a nutrient solution; however, not for an organic garden. Peroxide is base and bacteria is acid, the reaction is oxidation. In plain english, organic gardens depend on bacterias in the soil and peroxide burns them up. No bueno for organic growers.
But as an extra oxygen source for roots and non-organic grows? It's great.
But as an extra oxygen source for roots and non-organic grows? It's great.
Adonis
Member
OK, since there is no science being offered here I'm just going to assume we flush but we don't know exactly why, it just works, ok got it. I attribute my soil health, (which I use over and over) to heavy use of worm castings, which I produce myself (about 1 ton a week). Our farm is self sustaining and the act of flushing any of our vegetable products would be pointless ( and wasteful as well as hazardous to the Colorado river), but that is because we grow them that way. If we performed the same nutrient heavy feedings others do, we'd also have to flush some of our product. Flushing is part of a specific growing philosophy, to place it on all our backs as if it were some sort of mandatory step on the path to stoner enlightenment is short minded. There are many methods of growing and not all include flushing in order to achieve superior taste, etc. When I grew hydro I flushed too, now I do not need to, it's called evolving. The DDT correlation was pointing out the flawed "reverse deduction" you used to justify flushing.
penguinking
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I never said I was a scientist. I understand not flushing a veggie garden... who would? I understand organics to a certain degree. On top of that everyone I know who grows organic herb uses bottles ferts, which for some reason none of you organic growers do. That's cool. Seems a little inane to me... Anyway, good luck, with that whole no flush method! 
Xrangex
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I used bottled ferts through veg and 1st - 2nd week of flowering. To be honest though I haven't used anything besides ph'd water for about 3 weeks and the plant is fine, would I need to flush now since I haven't really been using any ferts?I never said I was a scientist. I understand not flushing a veggie garden... who would? I understand organics to a certain degree. On top of that everyone I know who grows organic herb uses bottles ferts, which for some reason none of you organic growers do. That's cool. Seems a little inane to me... Anyway, good luck, with that whole no flush method!
Well I guess I'm essentialy flushing everytime I water them...
oh well, we'll see how it goes
SlickDOG666
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Just thought I'd share a couple update pics of the garden
Sincerely420
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Using bottled nutes you NEED to flush bro! And you shouldn't be flushing everytime you water homie. Flushing requires pouring and excess of water over the soil.
@PK You said you understand organics to a certain degree. When that degree grows the light bulb should click in your head!
We don't use bottled nutes becuase we buy powders nutes and put them all into the soil and mix it up. That way your food source is in the soil already...No need to bottle feed.
Xrangex
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Oh, well if thats what flushing is then i'm not flushing. I'm just using water, I was using lucas formula with GH flora 3 series (micro & bloom) but I just quit using nutes since it only caused problems for me, even in 1/8th strength. They seem to be doing better without me interfering with them, i'll probably get ingredients for subcools super soil for when I flower the white widow and sour kush, since it's my first time i'm leaving it all up to the soil at this point since i hopefully only have another 2 1/2 - 4 weeks
Xrangex
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Flowering Day 40 (2 days till 6 weeks) 
3 bagseed blue dream
150w hps
home mixed soil
used UB topping method for 4 main colas on each plant
Sorry for the lack of pictures but there's nothing really new. I'll probably update next when they start to really swell up. BUT!!!! I'm ordering a 400w mh/hps cooltube tomorrow since i got paid. I'll be using it for the Dinafem WhiteWidow and the Sour Kush from either reserva or DNA I forget...
but anyway, yeah thats pretty sweet... You guys think if I get it within the next few days i should go ahead and rig that up for these girls last few weeks? Or just finish these off with the 150w and start fresh with the seeds from additude?
Anyway, thanks for stopping by!
3 bagseed blue dream
150w hps
home mixed soil
used UB topping method for 4 main colas on each plant
Sorry for the lack of pictures but there's nothing really new. I'll probably update next when they start to really swell up. BUT!!!! I'm ordering a 400w mh/hps cooltube tomorrow since i got paid. I'll be using it for the Dinafem WhiteWidow and the Sour Kush from either reserva or DNA I forget...
but anyway, yeah thats pretty sweet... You guys think if I get it within the next few days i should go ahead and rig that up for these girls last few weeks? Or just finish these off with the 150w and start fresh with the seeds from additude?
Anyway, thanks for stopping by!
Sincerely420
New Member
Look at the post on my page for the screenshot of the week 6 flowering joint rolling trick! I'm def. gonna try it! It should be on the last page. And def. throw that MH in there for the last couple weeks! Or even the HPS. More lumens = more yield!
SlickDOG666
Active Member
Flowering Day 40 (2 days till 6 weeks)
3 bagseed blue dream
150w hps
home mixed soil
used UB topping method for 4 main colas on each plant
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Sorry for the lack of pictures but there's nothing really new. I'll probably update next when they start to really swell up. BUT!!!! I'm ordering a 400w mh/hps cooltube tomorrow since i got paid. I'll be using it for the Dinafem WhiteWidow and the Sour Kush from either reserva or DNA I forget...
but anyway, yeah thats pretty sweet... You guys think if I get it within the next few days i should go ahead and rig that up for these girls last few weeks? Or just finish these off with the 150w and start fresh with the seeds from additude?
Anyway, thanks for stopping by!
Throw that 400 on there asap! put as much light as possible on those girls for there last few weeks. the more the better!
penguinking
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sincerely, why are you talking shit?! lol, get some grows under your belt... your plants are like 1.5 feet tall, and you grow under cfls with a 150 hps... what a fucking joke. Do you think I don't know what amendments are?! I've been crushing it for years, lil boy... (Lol This dude made his containers out of trash bags and duct tape! hahahaha)