Hermie Seeds

jdhutson2006

jdhutson2006

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I kept one of my Hermies...as i've said, i'm interested in every aspect of this plant...so part of my learning is what the life cycle of a hermie is and what does it do. I'm also interested in finding out what to expect from seeds produced by one. Here's my question - how do i know when the seeds are ready to germinate? will the seeds fall off? do i have to pull them off? will they just be present in the bud? (i AM flowering hermie 12/12) If anyone has even a guess i'd love to hear from you!

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AZPsyclops

AZPsyclops

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In my experience they are just in the Bud.
Wow I hate to say I have experience with Hermies. Oh well.
 
jdhutson2006

jdhutson2006

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Ghettobird209 said:
why do the top leafs only have three 3leafs each not 5 or 7?
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i let this one veg a pretty long time...couldn't decide what i really wanted to do with it and so i sat it in the bay window and let it grow. i'm guessing those leaves your talking about are or should've been bud leaves? not really in this plant for production...more just curiosity and potentially an offspring experiment with the seeds.
 
Ghettobird209

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jdhutson2006 said:
i let this one veg a pretty long time...couldn't decide what i really wanted to do with it and so i sat it in the bay window and let it grow. i'm guessing those leaves your talking about are or should've been bud leaves? not really in this plant for production...more just curiosity and potentially an offspring experiment with the seeds.
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to be quite honest your asking the wrong guy :P im just wondering why they are 3 leafed leaves and not 5 or 7.
 
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BillDance

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My two hermied are 41 days into flower. She hermied around day 20 and seeds are starting to be more developed. I suspect they will be present everywhere, in the bud as well as falling on the ground. I like u am learning. I've got clones going I took two weeks into flower going strong and not really sure what to do with.
 
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growone

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i've been experimenting with some hermie seeds, liked the parent, at least as much as you could like a hermie
grown out 3 so far 4th in progress, results mostly good, 2 out of 3 were fine, the other had the hermie trait, didn't like that one too much
 
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BillDance

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This is my hermie clone. She was taken from a bottom node 13 days into flower. She rooted in about 11 days putting her about 20 days into veg right now. I have no idea what these pictures tell about her as this is my first grow and clone experience. Any expert opinions out there? My clones are on a 24/0 schedule.
 

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drolove

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jdhutson2006 said:
There is NO shame in a hermie! it's the natural course of things...can't have females without a boy or a hermie in there somewhere!
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having a hermi pollenate something infuses those seeds with the hermi trait. its not guarenteed that you'll get a hermi but its more likely with those seeds.
 
jdhutson2006

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drolove said:
having a hermi pollenate something infuses those seeds with the hermi trait. its not guarenteed that you'll get a hermi but its more likely with those seeds.
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I've read that...but i've also read that a female turned hermie has a good chance of producing largely female seeds. This plant is really my experiment into what can and can't this plant do...hell...was keeping it by the kitchen table in front of the bay window and got drunk one night and fed it Dr. Pepper! another night was really high and gave it some old coffee! LOL it keeps thriving and kinda interested in it's life cycle at this point...ya know...kinda like a pet. :lol: i got no expectations of this plant, just curious and may go so far as to see what it's seeds actually WILL produce?
 
jdhutson2006

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oh yeah...and it's only allowed to pollenate itself...got it in spare bedroom upstairs by itself. figured i better...another drunk night who knows what i might feed it! LMAO
 
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growone

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what got me going down the 'hermie road' was this one poster who raved about hermie seeds, he loved them
he'd plant bunch of hermie seeds, toss what he didn't like the looks of
claimed he got great results compared to reg seeds
can't verify this, but my small results don't contradict his post, you can't beat the price of them
 
jdhutson2006

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I finally found the read i was looking for - R.C. Clarke's Cannabis Botany - in chapter 3 he states "Remember that a selfed hermaphrodite gives rise to more hermaphrodites, but a selfed pistillate plant that has given rise to a limited number of staminate flowers in response to environmental stresses should give rise to nearly all pistillate offspring." This read was what made me keep that girl-turned-hermie plant.
 
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growone

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^^^ i believe self pistillate refers to the 'male hermie', this is part of breeding lore
DJ Short has a famous post about the fertile male hermie that is supposed to bring excellent offspring
i have had a few of these, male hermies, but the fertile male hermie is supposed to be quite rare
 
Pipe Dream

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What's there to know about the life cycle of a hermaphrodite? There are calyxes and staminates or whatever the pollen pods are called. The male pod grows and then the stem elongates and it opens up and releases pollen whether it's on a male plant or an intersexed plant. Then the pistils catch the pollen and it fertilizes the calyx and a seed is formed. That is the "life cycle" it doesn't matter if it happens 2 weeks into flower or 6 weeks into flower it is the same.

The only difference between feminized seed is that it is usually coaxed out of the plant or very few male flowers on an otherwise female plant. Growing hermaphrodites is nothing but a headache in more ways than one. It's a trait that is great for the theoretical reproduction of the plant species but not desirable for those of us seeking potent marijuana.
 
jdhutson2006

jdhutson2006

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Clarke defined his use of pistillate as the female and staminate as the male. If i'm interpreting correctly, what i think he's saying is that a female/pistillate plant that due to stress/or whatever develops staminate/male flowers and then pollenates(selfed) itself will produce largely female seeds/offspring. I've grown gardens with a VAST variety of plants - perinials, annuals, veggies, herbs, and the cannabis is one of the most interesting plants i've encountered! it seems so "basic" a life cycle until you encounter the "hermie"! I don't mind the headache...i've got nothing but time on my hands and plenty of room to work with, and aside from the time it takes to results, it's kinda fun. it will be interesting to see if this "seed theory" is correct. As a hobby, i love the idea that i can continuously replenish my stock. now that comment is based purely on the assumption that what the plant gives is "quality smoke" - agreed!
 
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jdhutson2006 said:
I kept one of my Hermies...as i've said, i'm interested in every aspect of this plant...so part of my learning is what the life cycle of a hermie is and what does it do. I'm also interested in finding out what to expect from seeds produced by one. Here's my question - how do i know when the seeds are ready to germinate? will the seeds fall off? do i have to pull them off? will they just be present in the bud? (i AM flowering hermie 12/12) If anyone has even a guess i'd love to hear from you!

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damn I would just scrap that as you are going to have way more seeds than bud if any. Everything looks to be pods except for the top. To be honest this looks more of a male hermie because those are not nanners those are male pods.
 
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