Molasses Flush

gagekko

Well-Known Member
look, in a soilweb, you have fungi's like myko's, the molasses feeds this fungi which is what attaches to the roots, If you are using chemical nutes you are harming these fungi's and causing the plant to become more dependent on the chemicals. it's the first line in the book.
You are quoting a book with the sole purpose of promoting organic grows.... Like I say, I'll concede that myco may not be thriving but I do not believe they are completely dead either. When I add Great White, I notice a difference then grows I didn't use it. Maybe I'm not getting the full benefit of my myco's but it works good enough for me.
 

chuck estevez

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You are quoting a book with the sole purpose of promoting organic grows.... Like I say, I'll concede that myco may not be thriving but I do not believe they are completely dead either. When I add Great White, I notice a difference then grows I didn't use it. Maybe I'm not getting the full benefit of my myco's but it works good enough for me.
After you finish a grow, open up your rootball and take a good look. Get a microscope if you can. That will tell you if you have a soilweb.

here is a good thread,https://www.rollitup.org/organics/364864-vegan-organics-aka-veganics-matt.html
 

gagekko

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After you finish a grow, open up your rootball and take a good look. Get a microscope if you can. That will tell you if you have a soilweb.
Haha... No thanks... This is my last soil grow - I'm going Hempy after this... May I ask, can I see some of your grows? You seem to think you know so much, I have to assume you're getting 1.5 grams per watt :)
 

chuck estevez

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Haha... No thanks... This is my last soil grow - I'm going Hempy after this... May I ask, can I see some of your grows? You seems to think you know so much, I have to assume you're getting 1.5 grams per watt :)
I don't post pics, I can tell you, i do several strains, I have og's i get just over 2 zips off, I have a vortex that yields about the same. I just dropped a bullrider that gave over a qp per plant, but the genetics suck ass. And a jillybean that does 3-4 zips a plant. so it is really strain dependent on the yields.
 

gagekko

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I don't post pics, I can tell you, i do several strains, I have og's i get just over 2 zips off, I have a vortex that yields about the same. I just dropped a bullrider that gave over a qp per plant, but the genetics suck ass. And a jillybean that does 3-4 zips a plant. so it is really strain dependent on the yields.
Respectable digits... But I'm gonna guess u and i are gonna have to agree to disagree :)
 

gagekko

Well-Known Member
what are you disagreeing about, that yield is strain dependent? or the whole book about microbes and molasses?
The whole synthetic nutes kill all beneficial microbes thing... I just don't agree, but at the same time, molasses is cheap and my plants seem to like it so I'll keep the girls happy and they can suck it up - no matter why they seem to do better on it.
 

kr4x

New Member
I did notice also using molasses during flowering that my babies have gotten a lot more juicier :)
 

chuck estevez

Well-Known Member
The whole synthetic nutes kill all beneficial microbes thing... I just don't agree, but at the same time, molasses is cheap and my plants seem to like it so I'll keep the girls happy and they can suck it up - no matter why they seem to do better on it.
Again, open any rootball grown with chem nutes and you will not see ANY fungi growing in there. You spend a lot of money on great white and then feed with nutes that prohibit the growth of what your trying to inoculate with. I know that might be a big word for you so here,[h=2]Definition of INOCULATE[/h]1
a : to introduce a microorganism into <inoculate mice with anthrax> <beans inoculated with nitrogen-fixing bacteria>
b : to introduce (as a microorganism) into a suitable situation for growth
 
Molasses is used for added thrich production during the 4th to 8th week not for flushing This late in your stage your just wasting the molasses, I don't flush with anything other than straight water. I have had tests done with a flushing product and just water. With a full week of flushing straight water does an execellent job.

Good Luck
Nicely put.
 

gagekko

Well-Known Member
Maybe you guys will understand this,

How do you kill mold growing in your shower?????





ANSWER= CHEMICALS
LOL... That's the most ignorant argument yet... Cause all chemicals are the same, right? Well, at least we know we aren't debating with a Rhodes Scholar or member of Mensa here :)
 

chuck estevez

Well-Known Member
LOL... That's the most ignorant argument yet... Cause all chemicals are the same, right? Well, at least we know we aren't debating with a Rhodes Scholar or member of Mensa here :)
says the guy who buys great white then kills it with his nutes. Yeah, Your a genius, you missed the whole point of my post. Either your growing organic or your not. quit being so stupid and stubborn.
 

REALSTYLES

Well-Known Member
says the guy who buys great white then kills it with his nutes. Yeah, Your a genius, you missed the whole point of my post. Either your growing organic or your not. quit being so stupid and stubborn.
Do you even know about organic/synthetic nutes? Do you know about the companies who make these products? Do you know most organic and synthetic nutes are derived from molasses?Do you know I know you can't grow? Thats why you don't show any pics of your grow? do you know you lied when you said I don't post pics?

Dude, STFU, you have no clue what your talking about. Here again is a joint of unflushed bud
Fed until the day I pulled it. It was dried and cured properly, no black ash and tasted great. So what now?
Just to jog your memory

idiot,I'm 45 and I don't post pics as i don't need to prove nothing to some dumbass who thinks molasses leaches salts and people are smoking heavy metals if they don't flush. you are simply retarded and i am done with you.
I'm calling your bullshit. Stop copying and pasting from the web. Pics are proof like this

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Here's an old pic of a monster plant

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I have my state Medical Marijuana card that's why I can show my pics but you can't for two reasons 1. You can't grow and the other you're too angry and the plants feel the energy you project which is bad. Grow the fuck up!!!! Btfw I'm 44 and a very cool dude but don't be an ass to me or I'll make you look stupid from your actions.
 

chuck estevez

Well-Known Member
Do you even know about organic/synthetic nutes? Do you know about the companies who make these products? Do you know most organic and synthetic nutes are derived from molasses?Do you know I know you can't grow? Thats why you don't show any pics of your grow? do you know you lied when you said I don't post pics?



Just to jog your memory



I'm calling your bullshit. Stop copying and pasting from the web. Pics are proof like this

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Here's an old pic of a monster plant

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I have my state Medical Marijuana card that's why I can show my pics but you can't for two reasons 1. You can't grow and the other you're too angry and the plants feel the energy you project which is bad. Grow the fuck up!!!! Btfw I'm 44 and a very cool dude but don't be an ass to me or I'll make you look stupid from your actions.
Did you pull that out of your ass to?nothing like making shit up to try and prove your point.yeah, they derive worm castings and teas from molasses,dyna-gro isn't derived molasses, fuckin idiot.

I don't post pics of my buds and my grow room because I don't have to prove nothing to your Dumb asses. you have no clue of synthetic vs organic. Only people that haven't grown for very long have to post pics. Pics don't prove shit.
I have a bullrider that grows way bigger nugs then that and produces over a 1/4 per plant, but the genetics are junk. It would look great in a pic, but is just crap smoke, so take your pics and put them up your ass with your head.

great looking set-up,hahaha. those cfl underneath must be pumping out some real light. Please try and make me look stupid, I welcome the fight. Been taking down trolls like you for years, Let's see those cards toughguy.
 

Sir.Ganga

New Member
Are you seriously trying to claim that plants absorb heavy metals and you can wash those out by giving a plant plain water for 2 weeks?

see how retarded that sounds, even your cronie says flushing only removes stuff from the soil, NOT THE PLANT. and your so dumb, you don't even know what a sock puppet is, yet you use it like you do.
You don't even know the process of leeching? No heavy metals in organics either? Come on man give your head a shake or at least get it out of your ass and take a breath, your not thinking straight.

So your saying they don't absorb heavy metals? Leeching the soil effectively removes the ability for more from being taken up and a longer leech period allows the plant to disipate more. You do the math. You can not remove it all but anything you get out doesn't get ingested.

Keep ingesting and I will be looking for your obituary comming soon to a newspaper near you.
 

chuck estevez

Well-Known Member
You don't even know the process of leeching? No heavy metals in organics either? Come on man give your head a shake or at least get it out of your ass and take a breath, your not thinking straight.

So your saying they don't absorb heavy metals? Leeching the soil effectively removes the ability for more from being taken up and a longer leech period allows the plant to disipate more. You do the math. You can not remove it all but anything you get out doesn't get ingested.

Keep ingesting and I will be looking for your obituary comming soon to a newspaper near you.
nutrients are broken down to a usable form for the plant to use, giving the proper amount, NOT OVERFED, there shouuld be no build up of anything,just a happy plant. Giving plain water starves the plant in the most crucial time. You have your theory, I have common sense. According to you, anything grown is full of metal, guess we shouldn't eat anything grown unless we grow it ourselves and remove the metal. It just sounds so stupid.
 

chuck estevez

Well-Known Member
just some more copy and paste for your education,this is what molasses is used for in agriculture.

[h=3]Horticultural[/h]
 

FR33MASON

Active Member
My plants are grown in full organic soil and watered only with aquarium water. No flushing or molasses or any other amendment what so ever and all my smoke has a common trait on top of being the usual traits of good smoke and that is an actual sugary sweetness on your lips after smoking a joint. It's been described like a sugary plastic cigarillo tip like a colt mild or captain black sweet by many of my friends so I know it's not just me. Happy plants produce sugars and nice smoke. Stressed plants, not so much.
 
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