Harrekin
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How exactly am I wrong?
Why should some black kid get more help than a white kid?
How is that equality?
"Colored only" after school tutoring
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Why should some black kid get more help than a white kid?
How is that equality?
mr2shim
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First of all how do you KNOW everyone replying is white? Do you? Or are you assuming? Only idiots assume such things. That would make you an idiot and I would refer back to post #288. Another thing, "black" people in America are American. They aren't African. Their ancestors were African. To say they should go back to their homeland is about as stupid as saying white people should go back to England if they don't like America.
Thank you for proving my previous post correct. You are too stupid to realize what you're even saying. You are a waste of my time and I don't debate with dumb fucks like that.
ginwilly
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Wow, you guys must be racist then. Apparently here, assuming blacks need help that other ethnics groups don't is the opposite of racist.
UncleBuck
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RainbowBrite86
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Seriously. The House I Live In. It covers all of these arguments.
Trolling
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So because a satistic graph, a poor white kid that happens to fall in the same failing level as a different color race, he gets denied while the black kid learns and moves on, got it.not assuming anything, actually.
UncleBuck
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and i'm sure the poor white kid was set back by centuries of slavery, persecution, segregation, denial of service, institutionalized racism, disenfranchisement, and the like, right?
see the difference?
Nutes and Nugs
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And as long as they keep believing that shit they will never flourish.
UncleBuck
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keep believing what?
that they were denied equal access to opportunity for centuries, and are thus subjected at a much higher rate to the vicious poverty cycle?
that's the negro's lie! don't believe it! they hate whitey!
It seems that you are "jumping through hoops" to prove that African Americans do not test as well as caucasions. Are you implying that African Americans are not as intelligent?
Nutes and Nugs
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That's the sad part about negro culture.
Most were brought up in racist families with the "white man is always pushing the black man down" logic.
Most white people don't think that way.
I have a few negro friends that are really cool and don't have that attitude.
They are just like white or Asian or whatever race.
Just plain human.
Most were brought up in racist families with the "white man is always pushing the black man down" logic.
Most white people don't think that way.
I have a few negro friends that are really cool and don't have that attitude.
They are just like white or Asian or whatever race.
Just plain human.
UncleBuck
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not at all. lots of righties have accused me of implying the same. you are the first centrist/left leaner that has asked, so i will politely explain my position again.
how well one does in school has nothing to do with melanin and a lot to do with SES (socio-economic status).
if any race in this nation had been exposed to such treatment as blacks have, they would be in the same position. centuries of subhuman treatment and unequal access to opportunity would set back any race, indifferent to melanin.
i am kinda trolling (and have gotten some great stuff), but if not a specialized study group, name me some other solution to fix the achievement gap. a segregated study group is not the most perfect way, and we always strive towards a more perfect union.
as much as i dislike the idea of fixing segregation with segregation, i often need to hit a hook to get me out of the trouble that a hook got me into, or a slice to get me out of the trouble that a slice got me into.
if there were no achievement gap or we had conquered it already, this would be totally out of line.
UncleBuck
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oh jesus christ.
gee, how do you think that happened?
i agree. most white people have never had cause to believe that whitey is keeping them down.
+1 points for excellent spelling.
don't they all. don't they all.
Nutes and Nugs
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So are you a shining example of your race?
You are one sided and often ugly to people.
You are one sided and often ugly to people.
@UB
Thank you for the apt description of your views, I can agree that this is the only plausible explanation for closing the achievement gap. Sometimes I think that retribution is preached a little overboard for my taste, but I do value your ability to drive your point home (trolling or not). The "achievement gap" has been a stellar argument on your behalf thus far.
Thank you for the apt description of your views, I can agree that this is the only plausible explanation for closing the achievement gap. Sometimes I think that retribution is preached a little overboard for my taste, but I do value your ability to drive your point home (trolling or not). The "achievement gap" has been a stellar argument on your behalf thus far.
UncleBuck
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*this is only plausible as an explanation for closing the achievement gap.
*this is not the the only plausible explanation for closing the achievement gap.
i'm not sure if you mistyped or did not understand me, but those (goddamn) asterisks should explain why i'm spending the effort to continuously respond to this thread.
Harrekin
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If you think you can "make kids learn" in school by throwing money at the problem, then you're deluded.
If kids think they don't have to learn because "the white man had their great great great great grandfather as a slave" then why the fuck would they?
The Irish were denied everything the blacks in America were for 800+ years, in our own country, yet now as a country we're flourishing with positive GDP growth even during austerity, free education (for ALL races, colours and creeds), free healthcare and a solid social safety net (a little too easily accessible if you ask me).
Could we have these things if we simply said "the Englishmen kept us down"?
ginwilly
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The issue we are having with Buck is not that we disagree there is an achievement gap. We just disagree on where it is. He just admitted correctly that it's a socio-economic problem, not a color problem, yet the laws he proposes (or agrees with) are based on color, not socio-economic status.
Instead of saying let's take a look at what causes the cycle of poverty, he just declares it's because they are black, and black people suffered atrocities in this country at one time, so naturally blacks won't do as well as other ethnic groups. The whites, browns and yellows suffer from the same poverty cycle in those same areas as the blacks, but he chooses to ignore this, do nothing for those groups, and he thinks he's going to help blacks by doing this. He also ignores that blacks NOT living in abject poverty have the same opportunities and levels of success as other colors of the rainbow. It's bigoted.
UncleBuck
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you might just be trolling, but that is retarded if you actually think that.
it's not a grudge that's causing the achievement gap, it's SES brought on by centuries of unequal access to opportunity.