Why does everyone hate Miracle Grow?

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drfrederico

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Some flowers I picked on Valentines Day. Grown entirely in Miracle Grow Potting soil, no additives. I used extremely low wattage lighting. 6 - 26 watt CFL's, 8 - LED bulbs, and 1- 100 w sodium. I grew 11 plants in less than 4 months.
 
rabbogart

rabbogart

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Over watering can be an issue with MG soil. You can burn your plant if the excess watering dissolves the "time released" nutrients. I am actually pro MG. Nice buds by the way...
 
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bseeds

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i dont hate it i you it all the time i wish alot of other people would use it and they would probaly stop haveing so much problems that this other soils are giving them but if they used it they would add a bunch of nutes at first and still fuck there shit up there all in a big hurry to get the biggest bud and yeild they can and still end up fucking themselfs also i dont know how they aspect to get good yeilds when they start to flower so early. hell my clones are bigger then some of the plants i have seen on here i guess each to there own
 
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diggindirt

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I dislike it as they use chemical fertilizers rather than organics. I've noticed NUMEROUS times in my regular houseplants, a white crystaline formation on top of the soil surface. This is the nutrient salts rising to the top and when the water evaporates, it stays behind. RO water helps but doesn't eliminate. I've since switched to Roots Organic potting soil, and while slightly more expensive, I get none of this shit on top and my plants have thanked me ten-fold.

That being said, Gordon Graham grew the world record tomato (7lb 9oz) on miracle grow in 1984 I believe, and despite the Giant Pumpkin world record being broken every single year on various different natural fertilizer/microbe/mychorrizae combos, his is YET to be beat! Miracle Grow actually paid him to travel the states with a replica of his tomato and explain his process. Imagine... 8lb buds.... :weed:

I personally think Miracle grow sucks ass, but I believe the overall dislike is because you can't adjust to what you want to do when the soil already has everything in it. Also makes it seem like it's for people who don't know how to grow anything... dummy-proof if you will.... even if you won't?
 
kagecog

kagecog

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The reason people dislike MG is because the added time release nutes... Some strains grow well with it but with sensitive strains, MG soil is a death sentence...
 
BlueNorther

BlueNorther

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drfrederico said:
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Some flowers I picked on Valentines Day. Grown entirely in Miracle Grow Potting soil, no additives. I used extremely low wattage lighting. 6 - 26 watt CFL's, 8 - LED bulbs, and 1- 100 w sodium. I grew 11 plants in less than 4 months.
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I don't like MG soil because of the "time release" nutes that are already in it.I think most people do not like MG soils because most of the time the "time release" nutes are wrong for either veg or flowering, they usually burn your plants and, it is very hard to flush a plant grown in MG soils because the nutes stay in there. That being said I do use MG liquid nutes just not their soil. I like the liquid african violet formula (7-7-7) for veg and the liquid cactus formula (2-7-7) for flowering. I know a lot of people use bird and bat guano and fox farm stuff but the liquid MG has always worked for me so thats what I stick with. Hope this helps!
 
B.B.V.C.

B.B.V.C.

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Also lots of people don't agree with the business practices of scotts which owns miracle grow. I dont know what they did or anything like that but its definitely something that comes up everytime the miracle grow subject comes up. That and the time release nutes
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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It would be one of my last choices for soil products. I would use it without question if that's all there was and would get good pot from it. I have. I used the green juice for years to feed my outdoor guerrilla grows in west Texas/southern NM. I mean that's all there was in the 60's really.
 
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no clue

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hotrodharley said:
It would be one of my last choices for soil products. I would use it without question if that's all there was and would get good pot from it. I have. I used the green juice for years to feed my outdoor guerrilla grows in west Texas/southern NM. I mean that's all there was in the 60's really.
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Dude..you are such a badass..I mean it. I have some sort of envy for the way you answer stuff.
 
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drfrederico

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You can grow outstanding bud with just MG and water (and proper lighting). I guess the difference between outstanding and perfect is enough to make some of these guys want to spend every waking moment tending to their plants?
 
Coho

Coho

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You can't control your nutes well with reg MG. Thats my main reason.:weed: Their organic(ha) is usable. Using it atm because short on funds and it was free.
 
LeafGnosis

LeafGnosis

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Coho said:
You can't control your nutes well with reg MG. Thats my main reason.:weed: Their organic(ha) is usable. Using it atm because short on funds and it was free.
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What Coho said, I have grown in both regular and MG MC 6mo feed.. and now with regular soil. Way more control, and that is what I like. I have also produced bigger buds off of regular soil/my nutrient feeding than in MG. Ok, OK, so the plant was under a 150 watt and these girls were under 600 watt :P.
 
luckybleu

luckybleu

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a while back I used miracle grow fertilizer in a grow, ( soil was ffof) it was all i had laying around and i thought in veg it would be just fine to use.After 3 weeks it was time to hit them with a little N and I burnt some bottom leaves at 1/4 strength.All through veg I had a hard time keeping these plants lush and green.After doing some reading from a university of minesota web site found out basically why mg is not good for the weed. MG Most of its nitrogen comes in the form of urea nitrogen which until broken down in the soil will burn your plants.Good fertilizers will have better percentage of nitrate and ammoniacal nitrogen.Urea initally will raise your ph up to 7.5 then after broken down go back down into slightly acidic ranges.I would think in mg potting soil your ph would constantly be flucuating up and down.Urea nitrogen incapsulated in sulphur so you get the slow release.They also did a study with corn yeilds over a 7 year period with urea nitrogen and ammoniacal nitrogen and corn yeilds that were fed urea nitrogen were consistantly lower by 15 to 20% I wont use mg products for the weed again ,maybe on tomatoes
 
intenseneal

intenseneal

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I would use the Organic MG if I had no other options and it would work fine. I however prefer FFOF and Happy Frog. Classic MG has time release nutes in it and is great for flowers and other plants but I would not use it for the time release for growing my buds.
 
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