Has the American Government become Tyrannical?

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
We all know you only voted for o'dogz because he is in dire need of a hand out from a white boy, because without whitey he would never have got into office...

Damn you SES...
actually voted for obama to piss you guys off, my state was already decided.
 

Dr Kynes

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I'm most definitely not a marxist, but I've never met a right winger intelligent enough to tell the difference. If you think Capitalism is anything more than a temporary condition then you lack common sense. Resources are finite, it's about time we act like it.
True freedom is ownership over one's work. Capitalism steals the product of people's labor, I believe people ought to own the product of that labor.

I voted for Jill Stein just to clarify my political position. Anarchist, socialist, etc.
ohh what fresh hell is this.

finite resources is what makes capitalism work you dingdong. if gold were terribly common laying around for anyone to just pick up off the street it would NOT be capital, scaricity is what gives things value. only dimwitted communist muttonheads believe that everybody can have everything if we all just share

jill stien is not an anarchist/socialist, she is a MARXIST socialist no matter what nonsense she puts on her bio. anarchy is NOT compatible with socialism since socialism requires a powerful state to wrest the Means Of Production from the Capitalist Running Dog Bourgeoius Reactionaries who currently hold it. likewise, using a Pre-Marx definition of socialism which has more to do with society and the "social contract" than the re-allocation of wealth and "owning your labour" is patently absurd. a socialist hasnt been anything but a authoritarian marxist since around 1900.

jill stein is a member of the Green Party who are in fact Eco-Marxists. they embrace the tenets of classical marxism and it's socialist reformation and the eventual evolution to true communism, but with an environmentalist bent. you either dont know who you claim to support or you are a liar.

every wanker wants to be an anarchist these days, but when you press them for the details it's always absolute liberty for them, and authoritarianism and despotism to keep the untermensche in line. sounds like stalinism to me.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
ohh what fresh hell is this.

finite resources is what makes capitalism work you dingdong. if gold were terribly common laying around for anyone to just pick up off the street it would NOT be capital, scaricity is what gives thisn value. only dimwitted communist muttonheads believe that everybody can have everything if we all just share

jill stien is not an anarchist/socialist, she is a MARXIST socialist no matter what nonsense she puts on her bio. anarchy is NOT compatible with socialism since socialism requires a powerful state to wrest the Means Of Production from the Capitalist Running Dog Bourgeoius Reactionaries who currently hold it. likewise, using a Pre-Marx definition of socialism which has more to do with society and the "social contract" than the re-allocation of wealth and "owning your labour" is patently absurd. a socialist hasnt been anything but a authoritarian marxist since around 1900.

jill stein is a member of the Green Party who are in fact Eco-Marxists. they embrace the tenets of classical marxism and it's socialist reformation and the eventual evolution to true communism, but with an environmentalist bent. you either dont know who you claim to support or you are a liar.

every wanker wants to be an anarchist these days, but when you press them for the details it's always absolute liberty for them, and authoritarianism and despotism to keep the untermensche in line. sounds like stalinism to me.
capitalism is not in any way
You worship mccarthy don't you?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Posting this shit and months before and up until the election you and Abandondick pranced around this forum saying a non-democratic vote is the same as vote for Romney. You're a cunt bucky with no backbone always have been.
well, at least your english is improving.

you still socking away 16 hour days, janet?
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
You worship mccarthy don't you?
Tailgunner Joe was a twat, but he was a twat with broad support on BOTH sides of the aisle. he was a mentor to both Richard Nixon and the young senator from Massachusetts, a one John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

he slung a lot of bullshit, and in so doing he sabotaged the ability of anyone in the future to call a Marxist what he is, a fucking Marxist without having to feild dumbass quips about McCarthy and his valise full of "evidence" which was actually full of his goddamned lunch and a tattered copy of playboy.

Marxists use McCarthy as a weapon, much in the way race baiters like bucky throw out the Race Card, and queer activists accuse everyone who holds a different opinion as a "Homophobe".

McCathy makes an excellent diversion, since nobody wants to be tarred with that brush, but i dont give a fuck. Marxists are pushing forward again, trying to install a socialist government in america, and they are making headway among the dim bulbs of the twatter generation who think anything they havent seen on TMZ must be some hot new shit, and they want to get on board before it becomes popular.

 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
well, at least your english is improving.

you still socking away 16 hour days, janet?
you know bucky, some people DO work longer shifts than 8 hours.

on the santamargarita fire me and my crew pulled a 26 hour shift before we got any relief.
on the butterfeild fire we worked 2 days straight without a break, and i took 2 airdrops to the face.
in my 20's i worked 2 full time jobs back to back, and did 16 hour days regularly, year in and year out.
on a farm at harvest time we often start before the sun comes up and dont hit the sack till it's well past sundown for weeks on end.

YOU may not have the fortitude for such labour but others do.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
you know bucky, some people DO work longer shifts than 8 hours.

on the santamargarita fire me and my crew pulled a 26 hour shift before we got any relief.
on the butterfeild fire we worked 2 days straight without a break, and i took 2 airdrops to the face.
in my 20's i worked 2 full time jobs back to back, and did 16 hour days regularly, year in and year out.
on a farm at harvest time we often start before the sun comes up and dont hit the sack till it's well past sundown for weeks on end.

YOU may not have the fortitude for such labour but others do.
our sock puppet friend claims that he works 16 hours a day, every day, no weekends, no vacations.

i'm familiar with working 14 hours a day for a month in a row with no breaks and 24 hour guard duty for months on end, for your edification.

but good job on defending your three tooth having, sister fucking, english not speaking, bigoted friend.

bigots gotta stick together, ya know.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
Tailgunner Joe was a twat, but he was a twat with broad support on BOTH sides of the aisle. he was a mentor to both Richard Nixon and the young senator from Massachusetts, a one John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

he slung a lot of bullshit, and in so doing he sabotaged the ability of anyone in the future to call a Marxist what he is, a fucking Marxist without having to feild dumbass quips about McCarthy and his valise full of "evidence" which was actually full of his goddamned lunch and a tattered copy of playboy.

Marxists use McCarthy as a weapon, much in the way race baiters like bucky throw out the Race Card, and queer activists accuse everyone who holds a different opinion as a "Homophobe".

McCathy makes an excellent diversion, since nobody wants to be tarred with that brush, but i dont give a fuck. Marxists are pushing forward again, trying to install a socialist government in america, and they are making headway among the dim bulbs of the twatter generation who think anything they havent seen on TMZ must be some hot new shit, and they want to get on board before it becomes popular.

TL;CBF... plus the words are damaged by your redneck keyboard... Go lecture eveyone on farming...
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
our sock puppet friend claims that he works 16 hours a day, every day, no weekends, no vacations.

i'm familiar with working 14 hours a day for a month in a row with no breaks and 24 hour guard duty for months on end, for your edification.

but good job on defending your three tooth having, sister fucking, english not speaking, bigoted friend.

bigots gotta stick together, ya know.
blah blah blah.

hold the same opinion as bucky = Heroic Voice for Change
hold differing opinion on even the most trivial matter = Villainous Racist Evildoer Seeking the Overthrow of Roe V Wade
 

GOD HERE

Well-Known Member
ohh what fresh hell is this.

finite resources is what makes capitalism work you dingdong. if gold were terribly common laying around for anyone to just pick up off the street it would NOT be capital, scaricity is what gives things value. only dimwitted communist muttonheads believe that everybody can have everything if we all just share

jill stien is not an anarchist/socialist, she is a MARXIST socialist no matter what nonsense she puts on her bio. anarchy is NOT compatible with socialism since socialism requires a powerful state to wrest the Means Of Production from the Capitalist Running Dog Bourgeoius Reactionaries who currently hold it. likewise, using a Pre-Marx definition of socialism which has more to do with society and the "social contract" than the re-allocation of wealth and "owning your labour" is patently absurd. a socialist hasnt been anything but a authoritarian marxist since around 1900.

jill stein is a member of the Green Party who are in fact Eco-Marxists. they embrace the tenets of classical marxism and it's socialist reformation and the eventual evolution to true communism, but with an environmentalist bent. you either dont know who you claim to support or you are a liar.

every wanker wants to be an anarchist these days, but when you press them for the details it's always absolute liberty for them, and authoritarianism and despotism to keep the untermensche in line. sounds like stalinism to me.
My god you are a fucking moron. Eco Marxists? Are you fucking retarded? Did you even bother to wiki the green party before you decided to make that asinine statement? This is why this place is such a shithole all the time. Eco-marxists..

As for the other part about anarchists not being socialists... Go read a history book dumbass. They're either communists, socialists, or syndicalists. I don't know how you fit so much stupidity in that little head of yours.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
whatever, you insignificant little turd. go be a snob someplace else.
yep i HATE rednecks... And will continue to highlight the ignorance and stupidity of a hick like you... your greatest acheivement is getting shot and you couldn't even do that properly...
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
My god you are a fucking moron. Eco Marxists? Are you fucking retarded? Did you even bother to wiki the green party before you decided to make that asinine statement? This is why this place is such a shithole all the time. Eco-marxists..

As for the other part about anarchists not being socialists... Go read a history book dumbass. They're either communists, socialists, or syndicalists. I don't know how you fit so much stupidity in that little head of yours.
so.. the green party is not affiliated with the world socialist worker's party, and the international workers world party?

or are you attempting to imply that the green party is not eco-driven?

the green party is a marxist enviornmentalist party. if you are unaware of this you are a fool, if you are not, then you are a liar. i suspect you are a liar.

actual anarchists are ENTIRELY INCOMPATIBLE with socialism, and real socialists are NOT ANARCHISTS. you need to learn what these words really mean, not some obsolete definition from the 1850's

if you want to be an 1850's style anarchist then youll need a long black cape and a big iron bomb with a sizzling fuse sticking out the top. anarchists in the 1850's to the 1920's were engaged in all manner of violence and attempted assassinations. like for example, shooting Theodore Roosevelt and the arch-duke ferdinand.

meanwhile after the third communis international the definition of a socialist was solidified as a marxist ideology wherein a strong central government de-radicalizes the proletariate, and re-educates them into the glory of communist theory, and "scientific marxism", and eventually leads the now properly communist proletarians into the communist worker's paradise.

if you want to be a pre- 3rd international pre-marxist socialist then you will be a classical liberal in favour of free markets and individual liberty.

that doesnt sound like you at all.

dont try to play word games with me, you havent the skill.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
yep i HATE rednecks... And will continue to highlight the ignorance and stupidity of a hick like you... your greatest acheivement is getting shot and you couldn't even do that properly...
really?

a TL;DR whinge over less than 200 words, and mindless ad hominem attacks from nowhere, disregarding the factual nature of the argument in favour of a weak accusation of having a "redneck keyboard" highlights MY ignorance?

such a strange world you live in.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
dont try to play word games with me, you havent the skill.
you make that abundantly clear in your replies. lots of words. very little substance.

i'll say it again, because it bears repeating: you abide by the motto that if you can not dazzle them with brilliance, you will baffle them with bullshit.

now please tell me more about the REAL america.
 
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