Has the American Government become Tyrannical?

UncleBuck

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blah blah blah.

hold the same opinion as bucky = Heroic Voice for Change
hold differing opinion on even the most trivial matter = Villainous Racist Evildoer Seeking the Overthrow of Roe V Wade
i have many different labels for many different members here based on their posting histories. there are many who i oppose on every single issue but would not label as racist. muylocoNC comes to mind.

your caricatures are just about as bad as abandon's, but you seem to employ them more often. baffle with bullshit.
 

GOD HERE

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so.. the green party is not affiliated with the world socialist worker's party, and the international workers world party?

or are you attempting to imply that the green party is not eco-driven?

the green party is a marxist enviornmentalist party. if you are unaware of this you are a fool, if you are not, then you are a liar. i suspect you are a liar.

actual anarchists are ENTIRELY INCOMPATIBLE with socialism, and real socialists are NOT ANARCHISTS. you need to learn what these words really mean, not some obsolete definition from the 1850's

if you want to be an 1850's style anarchist then youll need a long black cape and a big iron bomb with a sizzling fuse sticking out the top. anarchists in the 1850's to the 1920's were engaged in all manner of violence and attempted assassinations. like for example, shooting Theodore Roosevelt and the arch-duke ferdinand.

meanwhile after the third communis international the definition of a socialist was solidified as a marxist ideology wherein a strong central government de-radicalizes the proletariate, and re-educates them into the glory of communist theory, and "scientific marxism", and eventually leads the now properly communist proletarians into the communist worker's paradise.

if you want to be a pre- 3rd international pre-marxist socialist then you will be a classical liberal in favour of free markets and individual liberty.

that doesnt sound like you at all.

dont try to play word games with me, you havent the skill.
Wow, I'm going to be direct with you for a minute. This eco marxist crap aside. YOU are the perfect example of why right wing media is dangerous. You are so sure you're right about what you're saying, but in reality you couldn't be more wrong. You don't seem to understand the difference between political subdivisions. For instance, not every type of socialism is Marxism. Marxists by definition are communists and statists. Most modern socialists reject state-ism. Democratic socialism is the kind of socialism that is refered to by organizations like Socialist International. In fact the only group I can think of off hand that still promotes marxists within its ranks is the IWW, and even they're moving farther away from marxism. And no, the American branch of the green party is not associated with socialist international, socialists are a minority in the green party. Officially it promotes eco capitalism (which is an oxymoron but whatever).
 

nontheist

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our sock puppet friend claims that he works 16 hours a day, every day, no weekends, no vacations.

i'm familiar with working 14 hours a day for a month in a row with no breaks and 24 hour guard duty for months on end, for your edification.

but good job on defending your three tooth having, sister fucking, english not speaking, bigoted friend.

bigots gotta stick together, ya know.
It's not a claim bucky it's a fact it's called owning a business that never sleeps. I know cleaning your wife's house while the wifey is at work is the closest thing to an occupation you have but it's not what everyone desires. I am sure I could cut back on my hours and trust others with bids which would be extremely hazardous and surely lead to my companies demise so I think I will keep my head in the game and not take construction advise from housewives.
 

GOD HERE

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It's not a claim bucky it's a fact it's called owning a business that never sleeps. I know cleaning your wife's house while the wifey is at work is the closest thing to an occupation you have but it's not what everyone desires. I am sure I could cut back on my hours and trust others with bids which would be extremely hazardous and surely lead to my companies demise so I think I will keep my head in the game and not take construction advise from housewives.
Ad hominem. And a shitty one at that.
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
our sock puppet friend claims that he works 16 hours a day, every day, no weekends, no vacations.

i'm familiar with working 14 hours a day for a month in a row with no breaks and 24 hour guard duty for months on end, for your edification.

but good job on defending your three tooth having, sister fucking, english not speaking, bigoted friend.

bigots gotta stick together, ya know.
So you're claiming trolling on forums is work now? haha 24 hours a day guarding what bucky? The computer from your wife?
 

echelon1k1

New Member
Wow, I'm going to be direct with you for a minute. This eco marxist crap aside. YOU are the perfect example of why right wing media is dangerous. You are so sure you're right about what you're saying, but in reality you couldn't be more wrong.
GOLD... +rep

Applies to nearly everypost and his life in general...
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
So you're claiming trolling on forums is work now? haha 24 hours a day guarding what bucky? The computer from your wife?
my claim is that i troll the forum while doing the guard work. it's a small site, not a whole lot involved in guarding. but it is constant work and to not do so could cost dearly.

my wife may have a newer mac than i, but mine is plenty capable of providing me all the entertainment i need by trolling you to the point of belligerent anger. see my sig.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Wow, I'm going to be direct with you for a minute. This eco marxist crap aside. YOU are the perfect example of why right wing media is dangerous. You are so sure you're right about what you're saying, but in reality you couldn't be more wrong. You don't seem to understand the difference between political subdivisions. For instance, not every type of socialism is Marxism. Marxists by definition are communists and statists. Most modern socialists reject state-ism. Democratic socialism is the kind of socialism that is refered to by organizations like Socialist International. In fact the only group I can think of off hand that still promotes marxists within its ranks is the IWW, and even they're moving farther away from marxism. And no, the American branch of the green party is not associated with socialist international, socialists are a minority in the green party. Officially it promotes eco capitalism (which is an oxymoron but whatever).
and you are a fine example of why leftist education has failed the youth of today. you seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that socialism is not marxism, whne in fact socialism is a subset of marxism, the imperfect halfway point between cpaitalism, and the glorious communist utopia that marx envisioned.


you have read the communist manifesto and das kapital havent you? no? well go learn you some book.

without a basic understanding of what marxism is and how marxism has reshaped communism and socialism into a new paradigm there is no point even talking to you.

also, the gree party is in fact affiliated with the international workers world party, the world socialist party and the various other organizations which are signatories to the communist internationals. if you dont know what the communist internationals are, then i suggest more reading.

when you have read das kapital and the communist manifesto, the essays of trotsky and the resolutions of the communist internationals, then you have to start rerading mussolini's version of marxism, which is "Third Way Socialism" which endeavours to ease the bouregois into socialism by slowly and gradually taking away their wealth and power until they are just another proletarian. then its off to the races. this frog boiling technique is the impetus behind "democratic socialism" which is sop popular in europe, but trotsky and the other true believers felt it was a betrayal of communist principles.

see youre just sadly out of your depth, and you either have been fed a line of bullshit, or you are a true believer socialist, and like all socialists you have NOTHING and want to share it with the world. socialist evangelicals are the worst scum on the planet, and i suspect you may be one, or youre just a "useful idiot"
 

fb360

Active Member
there's a difference between tyranny and electing retarded politicians, people.
Preach!
That's the mother fuckin gospel.

Unfortunately however, as a result of continuously electing nimrods and halfwits, particularly with no intelligent break, has resulted in us having a government filled with idiots and wankers. Tyrannical? Questionable. Moronic? No doubt son.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
It's not a claim bucky it's a fact it's called owning a business that never sleeps. I know cleaning your wife's house while the wifey is at work is the closest thing to an occupation you have but it's not what everyone desires. I am sure I could cut back on my hours and trust others with bids which would be extremely hazardous and surely lead to my companies demise so I think I will keep my head in the game and not take construction advise from housewives.
sounds like you have control issues, my sexy little southern friend.

delegation is a necessary part of any job, no matter how small or how large. it id absolutely critical, in fact.

i highly doubt that one of your "greese" trap installations is anywhere near as risky to delegate as the decision to delegate the responsibility of running an apartment complex worth one thousand of your "greese" traps every year.

and although i am small beans, it is absolutely necessary for my sanity to delegate guard work every year to a very trusted party.

ya know, it really sounds like you have not only control, but also trust issues. did your stepdaddy touch you in a place that your sister/mom said was off limits?
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
my claim is that i troll the forum while doing the guard work. it's a small site, not a whole lot involved in guarding. but it is constant work and to not do so could cost dearly.

my wife may have a newer mac than i, but mine is plenty capable of providing me all the entertainment i need by trolling you to the point of belligerent anger. see my sig.
Haha my past comments are more accurate than I though special agent doofy.

 

GOD HERE

Well-Known Member
and you are a fine example of why leftist education has failed the youth of today. you seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that socialism is not marxism, whne in fact socialism is a subset of marxism, the imperfect halfway point between cpaitalism, and the glorious communist utopia that marx envisioned.


you have read the communist manifesto and das kapital havent you? no? well go learn you some book.

without a basic understanding of what marxism is and how marxism has reshaped communism and socialism into a new paradigm there is no point even talking to you.

also, the gree party is in fact affiliated with the international workers world party, the world socialist party and the various other organizations which are signatories to the communist internationals. if you dont know what the communist internationals are, then i suggest more reading.

when you have read das kapital and the communist manifesto, the essays of trotsky and the resolutions of the communist internationals, then you have to start rerading mussolini's version of marxism, which is "Third Way Socialism" which endeavours to ease the bouregois into socialism by slowly and gradually taking away their wealth and power until they are just another proletarian. then its off to the races. this frog boiling technique is the impetus behind "democratic socialism" which is sop popular in europe, but trotsky and the other true believers felt it was a betrayal of communist principles.

see youre just sadly out of your depth, and you either have been fed a line of bullshit, or you are a true believer socialist, and like all socialists you have NOTHING and want to share it with the world. socialist evangelicals are the worst scum on the planet, and i suspect you may be one, or youre just a "useful idiot"
Man you are fucking nuts. But thank you for the quote.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Preach!
That's the mother fuckin gospel.

Unfortunately however, as a result of continuously electing nimrods and halfwits, particularly with no intelligent break, has resulted in us having a government filled with idiots and wankers. Tyrannical? Questionable. Moronic? No doubt son.
the moronicism from each side seems to be the buffer to tyranny lately. there have been studies on how social media and sites like this tend to divide people, too. part of the problem lies within each of us.

you fucking shithead.
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
sounds like you have control issues, my sexy little southern friend.

delegation is a necessary part of any job, no matter how small or how large. it id absolutely critical, in fact.

i highly doubt that one of your "greese" trap installations is anywhere near as risky to delegate as the decision to delegate the responsibility of running an apartment complex worth one thousand of your "greese" traps every year.

and although i am small beans, it is absolutely necessary for my sanity to delegate guard work every year to a very trusted party.

ya know, it really sounds like you have not only control, but also trust issues. did your stepdaddy touch you in a place that your sister/mom said was off limits?
This shows how little you know small beans. Delegating bids is fucking funny and pertains to guard work like c900 for an RO system. If you ask a guard to watch the parking lot and he misses a new shiny penny it won't cost you 400k.
 

fb360

Active Member
the moronicism from each side seems to be the buffer to tyranny lately. there have been studies on how social media and sites like this tend to divide people, too. part of the problem lies within each of us.

you fucking shithead.
That doesn't change the fact that the government has been caught red-handed trying to cover shit up, play shit out, and deceive us, asswipe. That's a yellow brick road to tyranny.

The problem lies with the fact we have sheeple like you who continue to vote for the better retard.

Not if you're not given a competent politician to elect in the first place. Things are the way they are because we have only been able to choose between republicans and democrats, both of which purport the same ideology, albeit one a little more fiercely than the other. This is a free market world, and this is what the free market has gotten us.
There has been an open line on every ballot. Moreover, the internet, the means of which to spread an idea or proposal to the entire world, has been around for over 20 years.

The fact is, no one has stepped up and made a legitimate 3rd party candidacy. If an intelligent, experienced, level-headed individual with the means of imarketing or physically marketing to the masses came forward, I think many would pay attention. I'm talking about someone who has been completely separated from the modern politics. The sheeple may still ruin that, but nowadays, even the sheeple have access to internet trends. Whether they can think for themselves is up for debate. Lastly, it might take more than the next term to accomplish that fact due to our Electoral college, but if people don't get what they want, they tend to want even more change.
 

GOD HERE

Well-Known Member
This shows how little you know small beans. Delegating bids is fucking funny and pertains to guard work like c900 for an RO system. If you ask a guard to watch the parking lot and he misses a new shiny penny it won't cost you 400k.
Wow you're super important dude. You're Big Beans. It must take a genius IQ to do what you do. Guesstimating how much a job would cost? Salesmen at my office do that 6 times a day you little prick. You really need to feel important don't you?
 

kpmarine

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Thomas Jefferson, the principal author of the Declaration of Independence (1776), the third President of the United States (1801–1809), and and founder of the University of Virginia, once said the following… “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”



Let’s have a quick look at ‘tyranny’.

Tyranny: arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority; oppressive or unjustly severe government on the part of any ruler.

Oppressive: difficult to bear; burdensome; exercising power arbitrarily and often unjustly; tyrannical; weighing heavily on the senses or spirit

Tyrannical government: despotic and oppressive tyrannical – characteristic of an absolute ruler or absolute rule; having absolute sovereignty; an authoritarian regime; autocratic government; despotic rulers



It could be said that unless restrained, all governments devolve to tyranny. A democracy needs informed citizens if it is to thrive, or ultimately even survive.

When Adolf Hitler was building up the Nazi movement in the 1920s, leading up to his taking power in the 1930s, he deliberately sought to activate people who did not normally pay much attention to politics. Such people were a valuable addition to his political base, since they were particularly susceptible to Hitler’s rhetoric and had far less basis for questioning his assumptions or his conclusions.

“Useful idiots” was the term supposedly coined by Lenin to describe similarly unthinking supporters of his dictatorship in the Soviet Union.

Perhaps it is easier to slip into tyrannical rule of government during hard economic times or frightening and uncertain times, when a largely uniformed populace can be more easily ‘led’ and controlled, and are more desperate and willing to accept ‘measures’ in hopes of solutions to their problems.



It is fairly plain to see (if you look) some of the liberties that have been trampled upon of late by government or government agencies.

Super-computers that are profiling you by…

Listening to your phone calls in search for ‘key words’.
Reading your emails in search of ‘key words’.
Monitoring and profiling your internet activity.
Logging the products and foods that you purchase, and where you get them.
Logging and monitoring the groups that you associate with.
Monitoring your travel movements for patterns.

You may say to yourself that some of the monitoring is purely for market research and advertising purposes, but, make no mistake about it, if the data is available, it will be gathered into gov’t databases in the name of Homeland Security. Whether you like it or not, you ARE being profiled.



Government agents that are, will, or could…

Search your body / property at airports if the agent is TSA.
Search your body / property at NFL games if the agent is Homeland Security.
Search your vehicle if you look ‘suspicious’ on an Interstate road if the agent is TSA.

On a whim, declare an American citizen an “enemy combatant”, and:
Detain without charge, in secret.
Deny legal representation.
Deny the right to question his detention.
Be shipped to a foreign country for interrogation, in secret.
Be tortured, in secret.
Be tried by a military tribunal, in secret.
NOT be granted access to the secret evidence against him.
Convicted based on that secret evidence.



On top of all that, ‘the system’ is rigged to put you oppressively in debt, and to make you a slave to that debt. Our politicians are in cohort with, and beholden to, the Banksters and BigCorp who have built this ‘system’. Our politicians rarely, actually, represent us, at least in the true definition of representation.



So, the question is, does the government fear the people? Or do the people fear the government? The answer will reveal whether we are already under tyrannical control.
Honestly, it seems to be less "Tyranny" and more "knee-jerk policymaking" with no thought to the long term consequences. There's waaaaaayyyy too much division between the two major parties for them to ever unite and take control. Plus, doesn't tyranny usually come with some flavor of less-than-democratic elections; or no elections at all? Nobody has definitively taken absolute power, and we retain the ability to vote for our elected officials. While arguments of favoritism, corruption, and stupidity can be made; "tyranny" seems to be a bit lacking.
 

nontheist

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Wow you're super important dude. You're Big Beans. It must take a genius IQ to do what you do. Guesstimating how much a job would cost? Salesmen at my office do that 6 times a day you little prick. You really need to feel important don't you?
Again chiming in without a fucking clue. Salesmen put your company into a non breakable bonded bid proposals that if they miss quote are liable for 6 times a day? It can take weeks to look over blueprints for errors. We're not talking about vagina cream here fucktard.

Anyone else noticing the trend of socialist running around sucking each others cocks on the forums lately?
 

GOD HERE

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Again chiming in without a fucking clue. Salesmen put your company into a non breakable bonded bid proposals that if they miss quote are liable for 6 times a day? It can take weeks to look over blueprints for errors. We're not talking about vagina cream here fucktard.

Anyone else noticing the trend of socialist running around sucking each others cocks on the forums lately?
It's gonna take more than vagisil to clear you up.
 
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