Everything I did I learned from reading other journals here mostly. Was a huge help seeing pictures of things as they were being built. Was about to give up on posting here since I didn't think anyone was reading my updates. The feedback/encouragement is big motivation to continue posting, thanks again.
1st time journal: 6 plants, rdwc, 1000w, lemon skunk
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Bought a $12 water pump and a couple 360 sprayers and just used one of the buckets in the veg room to switch to an "aerocloner" (I guess that's what it's called).
Bleedsgreen couldn't have been more right about the size/stretch in flower, they seem to be taking off after just a few days.
Really not sure on which are male or female from the 3 bagseeds yet. Hopefully it will be clear soon.
Had an issue with the AC unit, I think the temperature sensor was getting a crappy reading when it was attached to the "fins" inside the unit. Routed the wire with the temp sensor outside the unit so it sits about a 8" away and it seemed to fix it.
Concerned about humidity at night, ordered a the best reviewed 40L dehumidifier I could find ($225 - I just keep throwing money at this project). I know the AC should be able to control the humidity somewhat, but seeing a max humidity at 80% over night this early had me concerned it would just keep getting worse as they get bigger.
Bleedsgreen couldn't have been more right about the size/stretch in flower, they seem to be taking off after just a few days.
Really not sure on which are male or female from the 3 bagseeds yet. Hopefully it will be clear soon.
Had an issue with the AC unit, I think the temperature sensor was getting a crappy reading when it was attached to the "fins" inside the unit. Routed the wire with the temp sensor outside the unit so it sits about a 8" away and it seemed to fix it.
Concerned about humidity at night, ordered a the best reviewed 40L dehumidifier I could find ($225 - I just keep throwing money at this project). I know the AC should be able to control the humidity somewhat, but seeing a max humidity at 80% over night this early had me concerned it would just keep getting worse as they get bigger.
BleedsGreen
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Not sure how the aero cloner is set up but I do not use a humidity dome on my aero clones as you then feed them through the leaves and they have less desire to sprout roots to get their water. Also, I am also not sure how you are going to raise the net, with the plant weaved through so you can clean out the buckets, please explain is that seems really cool and really scary to me at the same time. If the netting is just for support raise it up a good 12 inches as they are really going to go crazy, if not you might need to add another support net later.
They are going to go crazy stretching the next 3 weeks, then it will slow down but not really stop until week 5.
They look really healthy and happy, keep up whatever you are doing. Good luck the rest of the way, I wish you nothing but success!
They are going to go crazy stretching the next 3 weeks, then it will slow down but not really stop until week 5.
They look really healthy and happy, keep up whatever you are doing. Good luck the rest of the way, I wish you nothing but success!
Thanks, I will remove the humidity dome. The aerocloner is a small water pump in the 5 gal bucket, going up through 1/2" poly tubing to a ring (T connection) with 5 of the 360 spray heads. 1 1/4" Holes in the lid of the bucket and the 2" foam neoprene collars hold them on top. Added a little aquashield, calmag, and roots excelurator to about 2.5 gallons of 5.5 pH water. Sprays a nice mist evenly straight up and it appears to be a better method than the bubblecloner (at least to me).
I'm lost on the netting too, was thinking about attaching it permanently and never taking out the netpots again to clean the buckets this cycle. I see what you meant about weaving them, after only a few days, I see this is going to get out of control fast. In addition, I can't reach some sections of the plants in the rear of the room (poor design choice when building the room). I have a feeling I might be cutting the strings out soon.
When you say "scary", are you referring to the possibility of ripping a top off a plant since the screen is just hanging from strings and one little "bump" of the screen could do some damage? This worries me some, so I think it's either yank the screen out for now or attach it with a few screws to the wall and plan on rigging up more more strings higher on the wall later to support the flowers.
You've been a big help Bleedsgreen, thanks again for helping me think this through.
I'm lost on the netting too, was thinking about attaching it permanently and never taking out the netpots again to clean the buckets this cycle. I see what you meant about weaving them, after only a few days, I see this is going to get out of control fast. In addition, I can't reach some sections of the plants in the rear of the room (poor design choice when building the room). I have a feeling I might be cutting the strings out soon.
When you say "scary", are you referring to the possibility of ripping a top off a plant since the screen is just hanging from strings and one little "bump" of the screen could do some damage? This worries me some, so I think it's either yank the screen out for now or attach it with a few screws to the wall and plan on rigging up more more strings higher on the wall later to support the flowers.
You've been a big help Bleedsgreen, thanks again for helping me think this through.
BleedsGreen
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Looks that way to me buddy! You are doing a great job!
As for the netting, If you have the ceiling height to let the plants just grow straight up just raise it 2 feet to let the plants grow into it, that would help support the flowers once they start. I wouldn't want the plants weaved through the netting then try to lift that so I could get the buckets changed. That would scare the hell out of me. But that's me just thinking about your grow, not really knowing your thoughts. You may have come up with a great sollution and I missed it or miss read it. There is no "only do it this way" with MJ!
Happy thoughts being sent your way!
I hit week 7 of flower this Sunday on my first attempt at hydro, I have been adding photos to my journal every week. Check it out if you get a chance, leave a comment or 2 and Rep+ is always appreciated
Thanks, I've read your journal and am subscribed. Not sure how to +Rep, or what it's for really, but I think I owe some people that posted here a few of them when I figure it out.
I realized I have no way to get to the back of the room to be able to raise the light if I attach the screen. I think it's let them grow through the screen for another week or so then cut out each string and remove the screen completely. I think this should at least get them started stretching in the right directions to fill out the room somewhat evenly.
Need to re-think this room's layout when these girls finish.
I realized I have no way to get to the back of the room to be able to raise the light if I attach the screen. I think it's let them grow through the screen for another week or so then cut out each string and remove the screen completely. I think this should at least get them started stretching in the right directions to fill out the room somewhat evenly.
Need to re-think this room's layout when these girls finish.
BleedsGreen
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I always try to keep enough room down one side so I can squeeze down that side to check everything out well.
Thanks for checking out the journal, I am getting excited knowing I will have fresh dank for 4/20 with local vacation planed in early June. Happy, Happy, Happy. Waiting for the light to come on now so I can check the girls and get the door open before going out to eat
As far as the the Rep+ is doesn't really mean a thing just an ego boost really. You can do it under the persons post bottom left next to journal this post, it is a little star looking icon. Click on that and you give Rep+.
Thanks for checking out the journal, I am getting excited knowing I will have fresh dank for 4/20 with local vacation planed in early June. Happy, Happy, Happy. Waiting for the light to come on now so I can check the girls and get the door open before going out to eat
As far as the the Rep+ is doesn't really mean a thing just an ego boost really. You can do it under the persons post bottom left next to journal this post, it is a little star looking icon. Click on that and you give Rep+.
m420p
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Nice work with that SCROG screen, I was lazy and decided not to do one in my room which I regret because no bud tops from the four plants are in the center of the room where the light shines most. Would have been nice to have been able to pull tops into the center. Looking great, you definitely have a green thumb.
I have to remove the screen to raise the light on Sunday. Going to reattach the strings directly to the wall afterwards. When you say to raise it 2 ft - are you saying 2 feet from where they are now, or the screen is 2 feet from the bottom of the bucket?
It's about an 8 ft ceiling, but figured I need at least 18" for the light hood, and another 1 ft. for space between light and plant top. Would like the strings to sort of guide where they should grow so it spreads the tops evenly. My gut tells me to place the strings about 2 feet from the net pot (base of the plant).
Don't want to learn this one the hard way because it is going to be a major pain to set these strings up tomorrow.
Thanks, any advice/suggestion is much appreciated.
BleedsGreen
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I would hate to give you bad advise brother!
Maybe go look at my journal again and see how I did the trellis nets as I have two now because I put the first one up too low and then let the plants grow through it before realizing. I don't mind having two sets of netting as it gives my bottom branches support. This is why I was thinking 18" to 24" above where your net is now as they are going to grow another 30" to 36" I think, but again I would hate to give you the wrong recommendation.
Good Luck!
Maybe go look at my journal again and see how I did the trellis nets as I have two now because I put the first one up too low and then let the plants grow through it before realizing. I don't mind having two sets of netting as it gives my bottom branches support. This is why I was thinking 18" to 24" above where your net is now as they are going to grow another 30" to 36" I think, but again I would hate to give you the wrong recommendation.
Good Luck!
Thanks, yeah I've studied your pictures quite a bit. You built that frame thing out of pvc pipe for the sole reason of a place to attach netting to support the flowers?
BleedsGreen
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The main purpose was to hold the rails up at the correct angle to drain into my res. After that, all the height I built was for the sole purpose of the netting to support the buds, correct.
Spittn4cash
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3 bagseed females! You lucky dog. 
great job, keep it up!
-cash
great job, keep it up!
-cash
Removed the scrog screen, disassembled it and attached it to the wall about 10-12 inches higher. Changed nutes (increased ppm to about 900) and trimmed off a lot of the undergrowth and a good deal of fan leaves off. Underestimated how much room I would need for 6 plants, think it might be a little crowded for a 5ft by 5ft area. Not a fan of removing healthy fan leaves, but they were growing right into each other and think it was necessary.
Before:
After screen adjust/trimming:
3 of the 10 clones have roots, not sure what's wrong with the other 7. Been changing the water every 72 hours.
Took 8 more clones of the biggest healthiest bagseed. I was trimming off a lot of it's undergrowth, and had all these cuttings I didn't want to just throw away, so I put em in rockwool cubes (5.5ph soak) then in a humidity dome. Mist em every day I guess and see what happens.
Before:
After screen adjust/trimming:
3 of the 10 clones have roots, not sure what's wrong with the other 7. Been changing the water every 72 hours.
Took 8 more clones of the biggest healthiest bagseed. I was trimming off a lot of it's undergrowth, and had all these cuttings I didn't want to just throw away, so I put em in rockwool cubes (5.5ph soak) then in a humidity dome. Mist em every day I guess and see what happens.
Lemon skunks are stretching, what was once a dwarf compared to the bagseed next to it, is now taller and poking through the net higher than the rest.
Really filling out in the room now, having to cut off fan leaves daily so I get even light to some of the lower branches. Will have to attach another set of strings higher for support (as Bleedsgreen told me) at some point.
Aerocloner, built out of a $12 water pump, $2 in spray heads and scrap 1/2" poly tubing.
10 Days after cloning, roots showing on half of them:
Any idea on how long the clones that are showing roots can last in the aerocloner for? I have to go out of town next week, was hoping I could transplant the clones to netpots when I return. Can they last another week in the aerocloner bucket or should I plan to get the rooted clones in netpots sooner? Like in the next day or two?
Really filling out in the room now, having to cut off fan leaves daily so I get even light to some of the lower branches. Will have to attach another set of strings higher for support (as Bleedsgreen told me) at some point.
Aerocloner, built out of a $12 water pump, $2 in spray heads and scrap 1/2" poly tubing.
10 Days after cloning, roots showing on half of them:
Any idea on how long the clones that are showing roots can last in the aerocloner for? I have to go out of town next week, was hoping I could transplant the clones to netpots when I return. Can they last another week in the aerocloner bucket or should I plan to get the rooted clones in netpots sooner? Like in the next day or two?
BleedsGreen
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I try to move mine over to a veg unit as soon as I see good roots as they will start wanting some nutrients once roots have sprouted. Therefore I wouldn't recommend leaving them there another week.
Keep up the great work they look beautiful!
Keep up the great work they look beautiful!
Much thanks for the fast answer.
I guess the best way to handle these clones, is to get 1 of each bagseed vegging again (3 random bagseeds) until I figure which of these 3 are worthy of flowering again. Would hate to harvest one of the mystery bagseeds and it turns out to be fantastic and have no way of reproducing it again. Top priority for clones should be preserving the genetics I can not get ever again. I think I'll get one of each bagseed's clones in a netpot as soon as possible.
I need to time this right and plan correctly for the next round of flowering. According to dna genetics, the lemon skunks are best when cut down at 50 - 56 days. Kind of hard to believe since I'm 11 days in already and see very little flower development.
If I start sprouting 2 of the Shoreline seeds now, I think they would be ready to move to flowering at just about the same time the lemon skunks are cut down.
Spittn4cash
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I think you should be ok to leave them in the cloner for another week...the roots may be a bit tangled when you return, but they should be fine.
just my opinion
just my opinion
Moved the clones with the biggest roots to netpots (2 bagseeds and 1 lemon skunk). Attached sprayers inside the buckets, so the 3 shown in the buckets have the entire bottom of the netpot sprayed with very light nutrients constantly. It's going to be painful throwing away all the extra clones that have roots, wish I had more room.
