BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

Guzias1

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i find these bubbles VERY important..

[video=youtube;XKrbeZs8jyo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKrbeZs8jyo&feature=youtube_gdata[/video]

its been a good pull so far!
 

bowlfullofbliss

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out of curiousity, how exactly did you ruin a whole lb? what is considered "ruined"? texture, burned, green? I was hoping that this vac/chamber thing was fool proof.
 

Guzias1

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out of curiousity, how exactly did you ruin a whole lb? what is considered "ruined"? texture, burned, green? I was hoping that this vac/chamber thing was fool proof.

well, it wasnt exactly ruined.

I like to shoot for a dry, crumble consistency..

my 2nd lb turned into a very sticky oil.. it definitely was not burnt, still tasted the same, smoked, melted great, just sticky!

That was with my old hard to manage chamber though.. im hoping this time around, i end up with the dry to touch stuff!

this vac chamber thing is not fool proof, not completely.. you can make a mess quite easily, you can loose a lot of oil easily.. Not easy initially at least :]

i myself have made many mistakes due to my lack of being able to monitor my pulls the entire time i do them.. And also the inconsistency of my equipment would really throw me off..


im a slowww learner i guess it has taken me much practice..

Like i said, i try to achieve the dry crumbly stuff.. i recently just pulled a whole bunch of goo, the input material looked like it was gonna be a winner, but nothing but goo.. sticky goo in particular.. dunno how, i do know the muffin took foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr to achieve.. and after that, melted down, put to full vac 110F, and well, goo for life!.. which baffles me.. could have been too much heat, could have been i packed my tube too tight, could have been the fucken material, i dunno, but i just wasted about 5 days working on a lb, and only getting goo, 3 different pulls, tweaking each pull a tad.. .. now i have to give the maker a crap load of oil, after i told him i could make cookies :[
 

Guzias1

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SO, my oil happpedned to be at 125F when i got home, eee



but! at room temp, not sticky! so thats good news to me, putting back into vac.. leaving it at 125F
 

vacpurge

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any cracks on the bottom of your lid yet? mine are huge.. havnt been using the vacuum much. I bought 20 grams of wax from a buddy at 30$ a g and its holding me over quite well. I dont want to go back to smoking the oil I was making before haha, I like the wax.
 

Guzias1

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thats one of the coolest oil pictures ive ever seen.
why thanks you! we appreciate it!

no fucken cracks thank god, what does huge mean? can i see a pic?



wax is about 128F.
full vac

gonna leave it like that over night, see what i wakes up to in the AM, hope to have a crumbly cookie pic :]

thanks for the comments guys! this has been really fun pull, from the muffin bomb, to the perfect bubbles :p

i think im gonna blast my SCB material tomorrow, the color should be mouth watering :]
 

Guzias1

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this new dark stuff is HEADBAND, very pleasant smell :]


so, half of the material was wax, half was a little soft.

this finished at 128F..

i took out the dry half, and put the moist half back in, bumped up the temps a notch, gonna see how that works out for a few hours..so far though, i have learned that 128F will wax this up eventually, would like to know if she can handle more :]
 

Guzias1

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so, looked like absolutely no change in the last 7.5 hours.. temps of the oil were at 136F

i rolled up into a ball, still a decent consistency, just a bit different

 

vacpurge

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well. things are looking good for once. the key is to keep heat very very low. didnt use hot water, only warm. and my dish is only around 100-115 at the most. I think I am slowly starting to get wax.

first few minutes of its life. sprayed into parchment for the first time. cooked off on warm water real slowly. got these weird looking things:










put that underpurged mixture into the desiccator and got a nice muffin for once.. because it was undepurged.







skip a few steps and I was actually to get it off the parchement paper thanks to your video... put it together and pull together fast, lots. the stronger/bigger piece always wins!




that little chunk muffined up nicely




^^ that didnt last long, it eventually melted. pooled into a liquid puddle again, and it starting to dry out.. turning into this... I think ill have wax in the morning or tomorrow night!!! fuck yeah!!!!





and heres the surface cracks on the lid. they are almost impossible to get a picture of...





 

vacpurge

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the cracks look nasty, but theyre completely harmless. cant even fell them with your fingernail, and the glass is half inch thick.
 

Guzias1

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good shit dude. this has got to be exciting, its always exciting for me still, .....when things go right :]

so you hope to have de wax by morning.. what temp is your oil at? still the 110-115?

if you feel its waxing, keep it there.. if you see a halt, and no bubbles, and you know its not the fucked goo.. I'd raise the heat 5-10F .., but only do that when things arnt moving for a while, like 40 seconds + of no bubbling action should be a safe call.. - repaet if necessary..

good luck man, hope you wake up to some wax! i once did a hugeee run, one of my first waxes ever, fell asleep, and woke up very very happy to a waxy field..
 

650baquet

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pics taken from DROID RAZR...sorry for the poor quality bud pics.
First pics are of the LostCoastOG after initial butane boil-off, then folded, vacuumed 12hr @ 110F, chilled, vacuum released, then mashed back together. Just over 15%yield
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This was how the BlueDream turned out. 11%yield.

So I grew the LCOG and a friend grew the BD. I use CANNA coco coir and the coco A & B plus PK 13/14. Also Snow Storm Ultra and Cutting Edge Solutions-Sugaree for sweetener. No foliar sprays.
My friend is mainly organic with plenty of foliar plus neem oil i believe. Once in a while when hitting the BD nug i would get a nasty yellow smoke in the bong and some of the nastiest taste like i accidentally get a stem in there but way worse. I was curious if too much foliar could cause any of this. The BD also was pretty dang amber and made me lazy as crap so I was done with it and decided to see what it was like as BHO. Doesn't make me quite as lazy but it doesn't exactly perk me up.
I tend to harvest my girls slightly on the early side with a maximum of 20% clear trichs being the priority but i also don't want more than 40% amber. The LCOG is a pretty awesome strain I would suggest any sativa lovers who also love some rock hard nugs to check her out.

Thanks for looking! Please leave some feed back as this was technically only my second and third time making BHO.
Peace!
 

Guzias1

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haha, nice special effects budddddy!@


wayyy to go, it really isnt hard with the right strain.. but with a whole bunch of different ones, it can get interesting..

wtf is up with that BD!!! gahhh , when was it harvested? how was it stored? that shit came out sooo dark .

you finished @110f on both strains?

im currently working on a strain that finished at 148F last time.. im scared as shitt to turn up the heat. but so far she's handling it..

good info 650, sounds like you are going to be doing more runs with the LCOG, i would experiment with small batches, just about push its limits.. once you figure out what heats it can handle, you will save massive amounts of time.. (electricity/$)

ALSO, what kind of input? trim, trim nugs, nugs, chopped nugs, ground nugs, ground trim and nugs.. there are soo many combos. :] which one? i think i just got a %12 of basically chopped up buds with scissors! my buds!! after the blast, i checked out the inside of the nugs, i see some shiny things still :] so im gonna accumulate, and eventually grind it up and blast..

post some more pulls! keep um coming!
 

650baquet

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:-P ya i love messing with photos and what-not. I will be running more LCOG, then some Trainwreck. My main two girls, but I also will have a Chocolope going into flower this weekend and I am super stoked to make some BHO of this super stinky strain!
Well I started vacuuming at 120F-ish I felt it would muffin easier. Then in the morning I turned the heat off and it is currently around 30F outside where I cooled it before releasing the vacuum. Not exactly sure why I initially decided to do the cooling process but let me know if that may have some negative effect. So what happens when you heat it too high during or before vacuuming? Would it not wax up? I also whip just a weee bit @110F before I cool it to 80F fold it together and throw it in the vacuum.

They were both nug. Not even a little trim. I was sick of smokin the BD so I was said f-it she's goin to BHO for experimenting.
My friend has friends that are more in control of the whole operation and they are exactly open to share. I just know by buddy had to go "spray" them quite frequently and they def used neem oil.

I checked my nugs as well and I def need to break apart and do another wash.
Like I said keep an eye out for my up coming LCOG runs possibly this weekend and then some Trainwreck runs in a couple weeks.
Here is the Chocolope about to go into flower.
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Guzias1

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i like those heads! i got a pk looking pretty similar looking, heady, shes gonna go into flower early next week.

im not so sure about the cooling down part, and reheating.. i myself tend to cool it down to about 65F multiple times through out the process, to work the material back towards the center, and to see on how it is doing..

i have experienced many problems with too much heat initially.. vacpurge just recently found out, lowww heat start offs are worth it..
i think your train wreck will wax up pretty fast! and i cant say much about the choco.. looking forward though!
my picture fun :]

 
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