North Korea

greenswag

greenswag

Well-Known Member
This won't be a fear mongering thread, I'm just going to keep it updated with info as things progress. Feel free to discuss. Don't pay much attention to what sources I pull from, I simply google North korea updates and click on the articles that focus on facts rather than bias remarks about the situation.

First is last weeks threat to bomb the us after we put more sanctions after they tested the nukes and launched that rocket.


article-wouldn't watch the video unless you want to actually see fox news, gives a small amount of extra info but it's fox news lol

Here are the two most recent updates on our millitary drill in south korea, and then North korea's response

Our drills

The response


Currently it seems like a high tension situation, but mostly a lot of empty threats and steam blowing. It will be interesting what N. korea's next move will be especially regarding south korea
 
Figong

Figong

Well-Known Member
They'd have to use ground against S. Korea, their missiles and rockets would end up killing 1/3 of their own people or more in the north if they used bio, chem, or nuke... as for ours, am not worried - the Patriot II defense system sitting in Honolulu can engage and shoot down anything capable of hitting any US soil at this point in time, according to the locations of their buildings and maps I've seen, anyway.
 
greenswag

greenswag

Well-Known Member
Thanks, any information is useful because other than what I read in the articles in these updates, I'm pretty much ignorant of the situation. It's worse where I am than myself too, I have only talked to one other person who was even aware we are having these issues :neutral:

edit: also I don't see them nuking S. Korea for another reason to add to the ones you gave. A long while back they posted on their gov website a video and at one point it mentioned a new re-united North and South korea. So they may invade, but it would be pretty stupid to nuke the land you want to make a part of your own, I also don't see them 'wasting' the nuke on it, they probably see us or somewhere else as a better target seeing as it seems they have so few
 
greenswag

greenswag

Well-Known Member
Figong said:
Have you seen the maps? If not, will post some shit for you to scope out :D
Click to expand...
I would love that, thank you. In the video on the fox news site I posted they talked about the range of their missles, it seems they have the ability to hit the west coast but the person they were talking to kept reinforcing that we aren't 100% certain. Also somewhere I read a statement made by obama that he feels good about our ability to protect ourselves from any missile attacks but isn't comfortable with our current error margin. The problem I foresee is lets say we do shoot it down, or some other missile is launched somewhere else. We'll still get a fallout of some form, hell we had one when chernoble happened.

Also fact check this for me, but someone today said that if they launch one, there may be a soviet missile that was left unchecked or could have been forgotten or something, and it can detect that somewhere a nuke entered the atmosphere and with the programming from the cold war it may auto launch thinking the U.S launched the missile. It seems unlikely but is something I never considered
 
Figong

Figong

Well-Known Member
Bit of N.Korean intel:




... and now we get to the "fun" (used loosely) part, detailing all of their facilities capable of causing a shitstorm:

LocaleLatitudeLongitudeNuclearCWBWMissileAirbase
AnbyonN39�05'E127�29'
AnjuN39�37'E125�39'
AojiN42�31'E130�23'
Chiha-ri N38�37'E126�41'
Ch'ongjin N41�47'E129�46'
ChongjuN39�41'E125�13'
Chunggang-up N41�46'E126�53'
HamhungN39�54'E127�32'
HungnamN39�49'E127�37'
HwanghaeN38�19'E125�38'
HwasunN39�52'E126�32'
Kanggamchan N40�24'E125�12'
KanggyeN40�58'E126�35'
Kumchangni N40�07'E125�08'
KumhoN40�06'E128�20'
KusongN39�37'E124�18'
Man'gyongdae-riN38�59'E125�40'
Manp'oN41�08' E126�21'
Masan-dongN39�10'E125�49'
Mayang N40�00'E128�11'
MunchonN39�14'E127�21'
MyohyangN40�05'E126�20'
NanamN41�42'E129�41'
Namgung-niN39�08' E125�46'
No-dong
N40�50'E129�40'
Onjong-niN39�18'E126�04'
Ok'pyong-nodongjaguN39�17'E127�18'
PaegunN39�58'E124�35'
Pakch'onN39�44'E125�35'
PyongsanN38�20'E126�24'
PyongsongN39�15'E125�51'
PyongyangN39�00'E125�45'
SakchuN40�23'E125�02'
Sangwon N38�50'E126�05'
SariwonN38�30'E125�46'
Sinhung?N40�11'?E127�33'
SinpoN40�06'E128�20'
SinuijuN40�06'E124�23'
SunchonN39�25'E125�55'
TaechonN39�55'E125�29'
Tokch'on-KunN39�45'E126�15'
Toksong-gun N40�25'E128�10'
UnggiN42�20'E130�25'
WonsanN39�55'E124�33'
YomsogolN39�03'?E126�39'?
YongbyonN39�48'E125�48'
Yongo-dongN41�59'E129�58'

...
...

Map versions of those coords:









...
...


And a summary of targets:

 
Figong

Figong

Well-Known Member
Damn images aren't displaying properly... sorry for the odd sizes amongst them - but there it is.. lil' bit to scope out.
 
greenswag

greenswag

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the maps, the sheer number of facilities is worrying I have to admit. Also they're complete lack of giving a fuck when we put sanctions. It's like telling a criminal they can't steal, they don't give a wild fuck what you tell them they can't do, words are cheap and they'll do it anyway. When I say words are cheap, I am not implying we should take offensive action mind you
 
Figong

Figong

Well-Known Member
The abilities of their long range still aren't refined.. (long range, being relative.. the longest one they have) - they can not hit Hawaii unless they've managed to get weapons from Iran that we didn't manage to see even though we're watching them like a hawk and have been since the underground tests a few years ago. That said, if they do aim at Alaska.. which they can hit with their furthest weapon, and assuming it's not accurate and dumps into the psycho soviet states of chaos.. N.Korea will piss off a few more countries with nukes hellbent on fucking them up in more than a small way. I saw the reports of the Patriot II system after they did the testing when they posted them on the defensenet website.. and say there's no real threat we can't take in the form of long-range weaponry at this point in time.
 
greenswag

greenswag

Well-Known Member
What about the island of Guam which has a major US base, they can reach that and that will certainly cause war (obviously...duh....I shouldn't have even needed to say that *facepalm*) and the fallout from that will affect other regions, possibly even us even if it's a light fallout. Another large concern is nuclear war. Once one person launches their nukes everyone might go trigger happy and it can turn into the biggest shit storm and honestly it's scary. The missiles don't have to hit the us, launch a couple off that land on other places and the damage will be substantial to the entire planet. I'm not saying the world will explode, as cn will tell you that's completely impossible even if we launched every nuke, but you know what I mean.

edit: also with the advances they are making, how long would you say until they do get technology for intercontinental launches? Or what would be the possibility they DO receive help from Iran?

one more edit: You mention the patriot II, is that a form of anti air missile to counter the nuke they send? When and how will it hit target? Does it simply disable it, or set it off before it hits us? The first thing that comes to mind when I think about it is just making it explode before it reaches ground level, which will cause just as much damage and will only save so many people in the grand scheme of things from the blast itself
 
Figong

Figong

Well-Known Member
greenswag said:
What about the island of Guam which has a major US base, they can reach that and that will certainly cause war (obviously...duh....I shouldn't have even needed to say that *facepalm*) and the fallout from that will affect other regions, possibly even us even if it's a light fallout. Another large concern is nuclear war. Once one person launches their nukes everyone might go trigger happy and it can turn into the biggest shit storm and honestly it's scary. The missiles don't have to hit the us, launch a couple off that land on other places and the damage will be substantial to the entire planet. I'm not saying the world will explode, as cn will tell you that's completely impossible even if we launched every nuke, but you know what I mean.
Click to expand...
Guam isn't a country anyone wants to fuck with, it's protected by about 80 others.. 1 country hits it, everyone bombs on the one foolish enough to try it. We have mobile Patriot II in Israel and a few other places as well, from memory.. so we'd protect a few of our friends on that side.. a few countries that are not near our area of protection may not hold out so well should N.Korea truly want to bring nukes into this. When I saw the count of their facilities years ago, I was impressed... now they're just trying to develop street cred with sheer numbers of facilities and threats against the US.
 
greenswag

greenswag

Well-Known Member
The problem is look who we're talking about, they aren't exactly the most sane people, at least the leaders aren't. They seem pretty unpredictable and may do something that we can see is completely stupid, hell they're doing it as we speak by just trying to piss everyone off.

also what are the chances if we go to war for whatever reason that they target our nuclear facilities? Here's a map




I am literally SURROUNDED by the damn things I'm only a day drive and in some cases a couple hour drive, from like 10+ facilities living in eastern PA
 
Figong

Figong

Well-Known Member
greenswag said:
The problem is look who we're talking about, they aren't exactly the most sane people, at least the leaders aren't. They seem pretty unpredictable and may do something that we can see is completely stupid, hell they're doing it as we speak by just trying to piss everyone off.
Click to expand...
That's why the president has what is known as the "nuclear football".. that's effectively a briefcase with launch codes, and a 'guide' or 'playbook' on how to handle specific countries based on intel that's been gathered. They have the attention of the US. All I have to say is.. look at the last 2 countries that got our attention. Saddam: dead OBL: dead
 
ProfessorPotSnob

ProfessorPotSnob

New Member
Psychological warfare works well , and if it fails then unleash the fury . Our Govt has lead the way and paved the roads to this fine tradition !
 
greenswag

greenswag

Well-Known Member
Figong said:
That's why the president has what is known as the "nuclear football".. that's effectively a briefcase with launch codes, and a 'guide' or 'playbook' on how to handle specific countries based on intel that's been gathered. They have the attention of the US. All I have to say is.. look at the last 2 countries that got our attention. Saddam: dead OBL: dead
Click to expand...
I don't even condone launching nukes at anyone for any reason even in retaliation because people who weren't involved also have to suffer the consequences. Also check my edits, I asked a couple other questions :)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top