BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

[vacpurge]

my whole life, ive been using powderized, old dry material.

yesterday (yellow pics above) was fresh, non frozen, ground up material.

right now ive got butane and old, dry material sitting in the freezer for 24+ hours. I am going to give it a run and use very little butane... try to replicate Ezextractions' thread... seems like he got wax/honeycomb pretty easily. not that its a good thing (to some people).. I just really wanna make honeycomb so I can say I know how, and have done it. after this I am going to start aiming for absolutes/clear shatters with 0 plant waxes that dont hurt the lungs. lungs cant be replaced.. the extra money I spend on ethanol and another 10% loss in oil weight can be replaced.

 

[greenghost420]

its all about preference. some people will prefer wax over shatter. what matters is making sure processes are done correctly and safely. im gonna have to try running fresh material in the future. one quesion i have is when running a closed system for reclaim, does anyone know how long they should soak for?

 

[vacpurge]

so heres for tomorrow.

had some home made bubble hash, non melt sitting around not getting smoked, so I threw it in the coffee grinder, grinded the hell out of it, and threw it into the pile. 14 grams of weed, pretty crystally too, and like 2 grams of hash. I am hoping for 4 grams of oil.








wasnt quite enough to fill the tube... should I take the weed out, and cram parchment paper for the first half, then put weed as second half or what?

 

[vacpurge]

also, what do you guys think regarding using used filters that restrict some flow and create pressure in the tube? or should I use new filters and rinse quick?

also got 2/5 holes in the discharge end plugged off so it doesnt drain so quick and builds up some pressure and sprays out, other than just leak out with no pressure. opinions?

 

[650baquet]

damn! also i thought u should only do bho with dry trim. are you using fresh frozen or what?

I personally have been using bud about 1.5-3wks from harvest, basically hung till completely dry, I might jar it for a week depending on how fluffy it is. If it needs further drying I throw it in the oven at lowest temp til crumbly. Then jar it and throw it in the freezer for a day. Or until i need it.

 

[650baquet]

its all about preference. some people will prefer wax over shatter. what matters is making sure processes are done correctly and safely. im gonna have to try running fresh material in the future. one quesion i have is when running a closed system for reclaim, does anyone know how long they should soak for?

I have no clue. I soaked some good trim for 3hrs using mason jar method and it came out pretty dang good. If I winterized it i'm sure it would be very nice.

 

[Guzias1]

damn! also i thought u should only do bho with dry trim. are you using fresh frozen or what?

IMO, bho should be used foe the finer hashishesss..

if you have a lot of random trim, and just randoms.. i would say go for another extract process. this process really makes the material used shine.. and the bette rthe input, better the output..

sorry to hear you were rushed vapurge! i fucken hate that shit! :] so i have learned, i tell someone its gonna take me a few days till i even start on it .. but realistically, i get started right away.. OOO, and dont update them.. just let them know when its done :] ... cuz most the time its too hard to predict, especially on material you have never touched..


i think a good rule of thumb for all material when you start off..
no heat, OR SOME DO low heat (90F and lower ) to get your muffin..

after that. melt down at 115F, and place under full vac for forever, or until you are ready to bump up heat.. (EX. material aint bubbling no more) -----

that is a really nice color vacpurge, you should be able to make it look and feel like that with no freezer :] ../ with teh right heat/ vac, and TIME

 

[Guzias1]

you seeee, this is why i used about 15- 20 filters stuffed into my tube on my last run..

pack your tube , evenly, not firmly.. then take a measurement of how much empty tube you haev. ( mine was 7 inches)

empty your tube, fill up the end with how ever many filters it takes to fill up youtr empty area.. then pack with weed..

you can use your old filters for previous runs to fill up your tube for the filler.. ESPECIALLY SINCE you are using ground and randoms material..

BUT! if you are doing a run of specific prime choice nugs/trim, i would say use NEW FILTERS to fill up your tube..

ALSO, filters will absorb the butane, so you probably gonna have to use just as much butane as you would with a full tube of weed..

 

[vacpurge]

I am using basically ground up bud. its bottom of the bag, lots of good powder, crystally leaves, etc.. and I added some hash to give it an extra kick, so it should be the equivalent of bud, but I have a feeling you dont chop yours nearly as much.

that coffee filter thing seems super weird to me, but ill give it a try and see how it turns out.

 

[Guzias1]

I am using basically ground up bud. its bottom of the bag, lots of good powder, crystally leaves, etc.. and I added some hash to give it an extra kick, so it should be the equivalent of bud, but I have a feeling you dont chop yours nearly as much.

that coffee filter thing seems super weird to me, but ill give it a try and see how it turns out.

the coffee filter thing is weird, i would prefer to have smaller tube, or more weed:]
imma get me a smaller tube made soon here.

and i dont like spraying powdered stuff, from my experience, ive gooed for life all of it.. i sort of got this semi sticky tafffy stuff once.. that took soooo much low heat.. i dont think i ever reached above 115F, and i started out around 90F

the grinder i built with wood and hardware cloth works out pretty damn fine for me!

 

[vacpurge]

maybe thats why im getting goo... chopping it too fine?? do you freeze yours? do you ever re bust the buds and re rinse them?

I have been saving my rinsed weed.. I wonder if it would be possible to do the thermos method with the 3 or 4 oz of rinsed meterial that I got....

 

[Guzias1]

maybe thats why im getting goo... chopping it too fine?? do you freeze yours? do you ever re bust the buds and re rinse them?

I have been saving my rinsed weed.. I wonder if it would be possible to do the thermos method with the 3 or 4 oz of rinsed meterial that I got....

i have fr0ze once, and that was with freshly harvested buds, i cut the bud off plant, scissored up to as small as i could, then placed in a ziploc into hte freezer for 48 hours.. then quickly placed into my tube, re froze , then quickly blasted..

im not a fan of that method

i got a killer product. but too much effort..

i would prefer properly dried input, fresh.. OR, properly stored material..


i have collections gathering as well, i have little budlets that i am going to sift out of the already ran material.. i am then going to grind those down, and blow them.. i may do that soon since i aint got any fresh material to work with ATM..

got headband, and blues, gonna try and do two different ones, in one vac chamber :]

oooo yaaaa, so i stepped on my damn heat adjuster nob on my griddle, this griddle worked really damn good! but now she broken :[ .. gotta swoop up a new one now..

 

[650baquet]

i have fr0ze once, and that was with freshly harvested buds, i cut the bud off plant, scissored up to as small as i could, then placed in a ziploc into hte freezer for 48 hours.. then quickly placed into my tube, re froze , then quickly blasted..

im not a fan of that method

i got a killer product. but too much effort..

i would prefer properly dried input, fresh.. OR, properly stored material..

It's not even the effort really just seems like it takes more time waiting around for shit in the freezer, when I chop/grind my plants i usually do it all my scissor but it's usually only 3oz or material at once. But I don't chop my nug up quite as smalll as i can the first time...i'd say i don't want a diameter larger than a dime for my first soak. Throw all the bud into one ziploc and the sugar leaves in another and both into freezer for a day. If i know what jar i want to perform the soak in i'll throw the bud/trim straight in there then into the freezer. That's only if the bud is dry enough, it may have to go into the oven if I need to do perform a soak very soon. Then on my second soak i just brake up largest pieces and soak for a longer time period with little agitation.

SIDE NOTE: I just watched this Tamisium demo he always has the butane warmed and the receiving tank chilled because and i quote "butane chases cold and runs from heat". If i warmed my butane can in water at 90-100F and had my jar super chilled I wonder if more of the butane would be attracted to the material instead of escaping out of the exhaust, or is it best to have both the butane can and the jar chilled? I'm sure it's been mentioned but all i want to know is if you guys chill your cans?..i see that one time you rechilled your packed column and doing all of this yielded a better product, was it that much better?

 

[Guzias1]

It's not even the effort really just seems like it takes more time waiting around for shit in the freezer, when I chop/grind my plants i usually do it all my scissor but it's usually only 3oz or material at once. But I don't chop my nug up quite as smalll as i can the first time...i'd say i don't want a diameter larger than a dime for my first soak. Throw all the bud into one ziploc and the sugar leaves in another and both into freezer for a day. If i know what jar i want to perform the soak in i'll throw the bud/trim straight in there then into the freezer. That's only if the bud is dry enough, it may have to go into the oven if I need to do perform a soak very soon. Then on my second soak i just brake up largest pieces and soak for a longer time period with little agitation.

SIDE NOTE: I just watched this Tamisium demo he always has the butane warmed and the receiving tank chilled because and i quote "butane chases cold and runs from heat". If i warmed my butane can in water at 90-100F and had my jar super chilled I wonder if more of the butane would be attracted to the material instead of escaping out of the exhaust, or is it best to have both the butane can and the jar chilled? I'm sure it's been mentioned but all i want to know is if you guys chill your cans?..i see that one time you rechilled your packed column and doing all of this yielded a better product, was it that much better?

i have neverrrrrrrrrrrr chilled, warmed my cans, just shake um up a bit.. then spray...

I'm curious to a test, you should try that out :]

 

[Guzias1]

It's not even the effort really just seems like it takes more time waiting around for shit in the freezer, when I chop/grind my plants i usually do it all my scissor but it's usually only 3oz or material at once.

the fastest way i have ever made bho was with the fresh frozen trim.. it only take 24-48 hours of freezing... but you gotta have your material ready before hand...

for me, it takes hourssssssssssssssss to scissor up just a few ounces of material ready for my tube..

if you plan on doing multiple runs though.. seems like dime sized nugs first run are cool.

 

[650baquet]

before

after covering with p.paper and taking a rolling pin to it, you could head a lot of the bubble just popping and would sometimes shoot a ittybitty flake out so gotta have the sides sealed.

Full vac at room temp(68F) for a while then warmed with my heat pad for a while...got stoned with my girlfriend and before I know it i passed out lol woke up around 1AM to this. Not clear anymore, slightly sticky to the touch, it is on the gooey side...but it still snaps if you yank a dab off it. Not sure if i really helped it any but got rid of nearly all the bubbles in it. It's fine by me in this condition...and I only got a couple little flakes of herb in it so yay.

It's more like an AirHead now than a Jolly Rancher Stick.

played with it a bit more so can possibly get a better perspective.

 

[Guzias1]

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played with it a bit more so can possibly get a better perspective.

looks like it works :]

 

[650baquet]

the fastest way i have ever made bho was with the fresh frozen trim.. it only take 24-48 hours of freezing... but you gotta have your material ready before hand...

for me, it takes hourssssssssssssssss to scissor up just a few ounces of material ready for my tube..

if you plan on doing multiple runs though.. seems like dime sized nugs first run are cool.

ya takes me a while to trim sometimes. it probably takes me about 30min per oz of material depending on how meticulous i'm being and if i'm doing the whole process of chopping down to dime size and separating everything then it def takes a bit longer. I start to get lazy and bored then i end up just chopping right through the middle of nugs instead of carefully plucking them apart. makes for some good scissor hash though.

 

[vacpurge]

why not just throw it in the grinder real quick????

 

[Guzias1]

ya takes me a while to trim sometimes. it probably takes me about 30min per oz of material depending on how meticulous i'm being and if i'm doing the whole process of chopping down to dime size and separating everything then it def takes a bit longer. I start to get lazy and bored then i end up just chopping right through the middle of nugs instead of carefully plucking them apart. makes for some good scissor hash though.

:] tend to get extremely lazy towards the end as well, bigger chunks, less care. just trying to finish

i think i have trimmed about 6lbs down to buds for selling purposes in my lifetime :] and that is plenty enough for me! not saying i got a lot of experience, just hate trimming..

i dont use an electric grinder. i foresee it getting dirty after a use or two.. then you gotta clean it, wipe it, not break it, cut yourself..

i went to the store to check them out the other day.. 3 liter grinder starting at $30, sky is the limit with price/quality..

im happy with my wooden, manual grinder :] cant mention that enough on here...