colocowboy
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It is my understanding that any issues would arise from "off site" promotion, which would allude to a misunderstanding. It also raises the question of whether or not this was based on a competitor complaint.
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hyroot
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Like it was said before. I bet igrow paid to have him removed. They are hurting tough. They are one of the shadiest companies out there. This thread right here is about IG and has been going for a year and its still here. None if the A51 threads have been shut down. That's the favored led in this community. IG is the favored induction. Somethings fishy.
That one Dick ok whatever has been banned several times and kept coming back under same name.
Also there is a whole section dedicated to tga seeds.. Wouldn't that be considered spamming too. A lot more people.and threads should be banned if spliff is not welcomed back.
I hope the mods read this thread. F-in Commie obama.supporters.
That one Dick ok whatever has been banned several times and kept coming back under same name.
Also there is a whole section dedicated to tga seeds.. Wouldn't that be considered spamming too. A lot more people.and threads should be banned if spliff is not welcomed back.
I hope the mods read this thread. F-in Commie obama.supporters.
viciousesque
Member
Honestly, this is my sense. I wonder if there are not folks threatened by the induction tech. People fear change, and as Chaz points out there is a lot of money to be made in the inefficiencies of incandescent lighting. It's not inconceivable that RIU's financial interests run parallel to those of the traditional gardening industry.
Also, I reached out to Spliff on youtube. He says he's baffled by the ban, and that it came out of the blue. It seems to me that if there were legitimate concerns about conflict of interest they would have contacted him first in an effort to moderate whatever behavior was deemed inappropriate. I've worked for a number of social networking sites here in silicon valley, and that's just how community relations are handled. Community members are not just booted-- especially ones generating so much valuable content.
While I do love sounding like a conspiratorial kook
that shouldn't invalidate my claim that the Edisonian thugs are behind this. These guys want us buying into the entire system of inefficiencies they've spent more than a century devising. Again, as Chaz said earlier, they want us buying bulbs that over-heat and burn-out quickly, so we have to buy more bulbs, additional fans, ducting, and electricity.
Loonquawl
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I will not comply.
PSUAGRO.
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I have a feeling it had more to do about his extensive and very descriptive post about the American synthetic fertilizer industry's BS npk #s that may have ruffled a few feathers on the penguin
oh and his "heavy"approval of H&G didn't help either......big money at stake in the fert business, way more than bulbs and what not......
Shame good grower, hopefully the ban is temporary....
oh and his "heavy"approval of H&G didn't help either......big money at stake in the fert business, way more than bulbs and what not......Shame good grower, hopefully the ban is temporary....
Loonquawl
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That doesn't fly. There is a whole section on organics.I have a feeling it had more to do about his extensive and very descriptive post about the American synthetic fertilizer industry's BS npk #s that may have ruffled a few feathers on the penguin
Shame good grower, hopefully the ban is temporary....
chazbolin
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Hiya P! I suspect the heavy promotion of H&G might have been a contributing influence. But like Vicious has pointed out a pm to Spliff would have been better suited to first explaining and then warning him to curtail this type of post in the future. We all would have benefited from that. But as it turns out with a ban it's handled in such a heavy handed manner it does lend itself to conjecture as the possibilities of an induction competitor claiming that IG has some sort of unfair advantage on RIU. And that would be unfortunate since in all reality the gardens response will ultimately be what marks how successful any products are in contributing to a successful harvest.
While I realize that cannabis forums are a business and they rely on corporate sponsors I have never seen RIU be influenced by that type of sponsorship. I believe, maybe naively, that cannabis forums in general are arguably renegade sites in which there very existence is threatened by forces that may choose to eliminate/censor them for the message they promote. That being said I would expect the forum moderators are hypersensitive to being steered or directed by a special interest who would direct them to squelch the free exchange of those members that value the forums for just being there as an outlet for those exchanges. If all of a sudden a company like an igrow for example were to become a corporate RIU sponsor though I would definitely have to rethink that philosophy. I pray that does not occur and that Spliff will be invited back with a warning to not engage in whatever it was he was doing that violated forum rules. I think that would show a lot of class and put any lingering debate as to motive to rest.
Day 27 update: Gonna finish this run on the 12/12. Seeing some really tight stacking and frosty oily and dense bud structure. Just started using CO2 yesterday and added bud swell for next 2-3 weeks feeding. I'll lay off a week before harvest.
While I realize that cannabis forums are a business and they rely on corporate sponsors I have never seen RIU be influenced by that type of sponsorship. I believe, maybe naively, that cannabis forums in general are arguably renegade sites in which there very existence is threatened by forces that may choose to eliminate/censor them for the message they promote. That being said I would expect the forum moderators are hypersensitive to being steered or directed by a special interest who would direct them to squelch the free exchange of those members that value the forums for just being there as an outlet for those exchanges. If all of a sudden a company like an igrow for example were to become a corporate RIU sponsor though I would definitely have to rethink that philosophy. I pray that does not occur and that Spliff will be invited back with a warning to not engage in whatever it was he was doing that violated forum rules. I think that would show a lot of class and put any lingering debate as to motive to rest.
Day 27 update: Gonna finish this run on the 12/12. Seeing some really tight stacking and frosty oily and dense bud structure. Just started using CO2 yesterday and added bud swell for next 2-3 weeks feeding. I'll lay off a week before harvest.
Chronikool
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Loving the the plants under the...ummmm.... 'I-GROW' there Chaz....hehehehhe....(shhhhhh...!)
PSUAGRO.
Well-Known Member
A little different as you DON'T have to state the full ingredients list on synthetics and can charge $90 a quart for your special/vodoo/bloombastic/ bud ignitor/extreme blah secret sauce(+water
)!!!!!! Their is HUGE money being made in the MJ specific nute industry due to our crop's WORTH, even Scott's fert company (MG) is joining the game as a couple more states go medical, these companies aren't stupid and know that any average orchid/violet/bonsai/tomato/whatever gardener isn't spending that amount of $$$$$$$$$$ on nutes.Spliff kinda put out some dirty little secrets in that post which most don't know........I will say no more as well..........chaz nice garden brother
gordobo
Active Member
I think Psuagro and Chaz are right on this. If the secret sauce formulations got out the nute industry would be walking wounded. It's probably not about the lights at all. But just in case here is my new I-dont-GROW bud porn site of the day.
http://www.facebook.com/IndaGroMedicalMjLtg?ref=hl#!/photo.php?fbid=327283577374233&set=a.265437303558861.41281.262974713805120&type=1&theater
http://www.facebook.com/IndaGroMedicalMjLtg?ref=hl#!/photo.php?fbid=327283577374233&set=a.265437303558861.41281.262974713805120&type=1&theater
viciousesque
Member
That IS porn!
djwimbo
Well-Known Member
Maybe I'm the oddball here, but is there a chance Spliff's boss found the thread and gave him the option to keep his job or his thread, and he asked to have his account removed? I mean, on all the other forums I'm a part of, a mod steps in and locks the thread, ending it with a "So-and-so violated rule/s: ... this thread is locked/deleted". If banning honest and helpful members becomes a habit, it was nice knowing you guys.
Side note, every other thread has side talk and discussions about nutes, what would make Spliff's any different?
Whenever a mod decides to read through this, you mind explaining what happened? So none of us can repeat the same mistake?
Side note, every other thread has side talk and discussions about nutes, what would make Spliff's any different?
Whenever a mod decides to read through this, you mind explaining what happened? So none of us can repeat the same mistake?
hyroot
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^^^^^ The whole organic section is anti bottled nutes. I myself have posted in several different threads. Even subcool,nug buckets, the whole vegan thread talk about how much boottled nutes is a waste of money. Those guys promote super soil. I would of been banned a long time ago along with a 100's of other people on here. Imho its all over IG. What doesn't make sense is the only company Spliff didn't like was igrow / full spectrum solutions. The threads with lvd, yml, ibeam, riant. Spliff was more stoked than not on peoples results. He never said IG was the only way to go and its better. The only person who did that is still here. So again it comes back to.a company that has to buy false Usda results. A company who consistently bad mouthed IG. All the other induction companies would refer to IG...... The unfair advantage....
The Mods won't respond to spliffs emails. Won't give anyone else a specific reason..
Politics in medical mj not pertaining to law.
The Mods won't respond to spliffs emails. Won't give anyone else a specific reason..
Politics in medical mj not pertaining to law.
viciousesque
Member
Indeed, this is part of what makes the ban so weird. I had a quick message exchange with Spliff on youtube, and he confirmed the ban and said he was baffled by it, making it sound as though he was given no reason.
chazbolin
Well-Known Member
It is puzzling to be sure but I'm of the opinion that if it was not about nutes why not take this thread down? I really don't want to believe that a competitor company could get to a mod and persuade them to take out a thread and permanently ban a contributing member in the hopes that it would somehow make their product appear superior. From the competitor business perspective that is just dumb. From the RIU perspective what do you do after the ban? Put up the competitor as a sponsored link? Like that would somehow go unnoticed? I'm with P on this. Mods not returning emails or making public comments on what it took to get banned tells me he may have hit a little to close to the bone on the mass frac nute post. But then again I reserve the right to change my opinion if I find myself summarily banned and this thread deleted.
hyroot
Well-Known Member
^^^^ that's an oxymoron. It's not a competitor in lights but a competitor in nutes. Either way its a business competitor and in the end its all about the all mighty dollar. Its SCANDELOUS to say the least.
There's hundreds of threads saying the same thing about nutes...
Even in p's and e's and b's thread we all said the same thing . Don't,waste money there. You get the same thing here for 1/10 of the cost.
Fuck it. I will even say it. Everything in great white, gh Starter whatever. Hg powder roots powder bacteria. All the bottled enzymes and humics. You can get in a $5 bag of compost.
There's organic dry nute mixes at home depot for $5 that produce better results than all the other hydro shop nute comapnies.
When coco breaks down it gives you all the k you need.
Its better to recreate nature. In the wild. Animals poop and die and break down, plants die and break down and naturally creates nutes, enzymes, bacteria, fungi, humics . Plants and trees take that up. Ie super soil adjusted..
Bring it.
Edit:
To quote Elton John - " I'm still standing "
There's hundreds of threads saying the same thing about nutes...
Even in p's and e's and b's thread we all said the same thing . Don't,waste money there. You get the same thing here for 1/10 of the cost.
Fuck it. I will even say it. Everything in great white, gh Starter whatever. Hg powder roots powder bacteria. All the bottled enzymes and humics. You can get in a $5 bag of compost.
There's organic dry nute mixes at home depot for $5 that produce better results than all the other hydro shop nute comapnies.
When coco breaks down it gives you all the k you need.
Its better to recreate nature. In the wild. Animals poop and die and break down, plants die and break down and naturally creates nutes, enzymes, bacteria, fungi, humics . Plants and trees take that up. Ie super soil adjusted..
Bring it.
Edit:
To quote Elton John - " I'm still standing "
captainmorgan
Well-Known Member
Mixed up a batch of super soil today,hope I don't get banned.
Loonquawl
Well-Known Member
Beasties in my super soil I made Sunday. Im excited to see how this stuff works out. No nutes just water, tuck the scrog and trim the undergrowth. Winning!
5 days @ 13:45/10:15
I think I can do this. The new growth is really light green. Does this indicate the need for more nutrients?
Decided to add to the room. Ordered 3 more lights, 2 w/pontoons and a 200. I wont mention what brand (rhymes with Inda-Gro).
5 days @ 13:45/10:15
I think I can do this. The new growth is really light green. Does this indicate the need for more nutrients?
Decided to add to the room. Ordered 3 more lights, 2 w/pontoons and a 200. I wont mention what brand (rhymes with Inda-Gro).