BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

vacpurge

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input material was bone dry trim that ive personally had for 5 months now. I had 2 lbs. down to the last 14 grams now out of 1000 haha. id imagine its 7+ months old.
 

650baquet

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Montana's not too bad in general when it comes to herb, but they aren't exactly lax. It's better here on the western side of the state though....away from the silly Dakotas. I'm currently in progress of moving to someplace with no snow, sights set on Cali. I really like rain too though lol gotta love that fresh air, so i wouldn't mind if it rained a decent amount where ever i end up. 30lb per harvest wow that's just a lot to me cause i don't distribute my product.

I'm not actually sure if I've mentioned this on the thread yet but I have only tried another persons BHO once. Everything else has been mine. I don't communicate with other growers near by at all, I just haven't made those connections and not social enough to in the first place. I am getting more social though and once I'm in Cali I plan to make a few good grow friends to share and compare and have good times with.

What consistency do you prefer? I had wax my first time, dry enough it wouldn't stick to the dabber. Which is kinda annoying to me so i prefer shatter or even if it just starts to wax up it's still okay to me.

Top shelf trim is def a good idea, you get out what you put in...but i feel you should know that if you are as experienced as you sound. I was going to mention ICMAG, guess i chose this site first due to this thread and i only have time for one site lol.
 

650baquet

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That could be some of the issue. I also know that in trichome color can vary from strain to strain from lighter amber to darker red. Maybe the trichome color can be an initial factor, combined with a darker concentrate with age. I'm about to run some TrainW trim and it went a week longer than normal, about 12wks. When i take a bong rip it tastes very smooth, doesn't burn too fast, slight grapefruit/peach ring taste, very kush like though. Hint of skunk in the aroma. Can't wait to taste the BHO, and see what color it turns out like this time...i'm guaranteeing it will be darker than my LostCoastOG BHO.

I'm sure you will be crankin out some pretty bomb "YELLOW" BHO as soon as you can get the fresh material!
PEACE!
 

Guzias1

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Sorry but from my experience color won't change really, and mainly depends on how fresh the bud, or what type of bud it is. How fresh was the input material?
yupppp. exactly,..

you did well though vacpurge. way to be patient.
int the following picture, the top two photos are from the same plant, same harvest, but the second photo was a batch i left out, and was extremely dry, turned into bho about 2 weeks after the first photo.. you can see how fast color degrades with degraded material..
the last photo is of a very stinky potent trim batch, a lot of little buds. i have no idea how old the trim was though..



McMuffin! welcome aboard.

sounds like you bought all the parts needed!

now, i think a 25 oz of some really prime sugar leaf from January isnt a bad deal.. all across the world.. you can see from my picture, material will darken with age, but delicious final outcomes are very possible..


  • Could you explain a weee bit more?​




650.. a wee bit more eh?? well, here is my explanation.

blowing a lb of trim through a 1/2 oz tube, well, that takes a lot of time, packs, holding, effort, TIME.

blowing a 1lb of trim with 1.5 oz tube, with an inner diamater of 1.5 inches. , well that takes a bit more time holding each individual tube, and then i would do star shaped patterns as i sprayed each tube, TIME.. lots of fucken physical effort, all while being safe..

now, i gots my 3ish oz tube, inner diameter of 1.25, its soo fucken big i had to make a stand, cuz i fo sho wasnt gonna hold that mofo.. but ya, fucken efficient, i can blow a lb in about 5 tubes total, 15 cans of butane.. and the absolute best part about it, is THE HANDS FREE BLASTING.. it sure does take a little while for three cans to get down and out the tube.. i t takes twso cans to pretty much fully soak it with a little bit of spray exiting, then one can to flush it out, if i was using no thing but buds, ground up, id probably do 4 cans a tube.

while im blasting, i now gots time to clean while i work, or check out RIU :]

and now im not physically worn out after blasting a lb.
 

vacpurge

New Member
how are you getting that last can out of the tube that the weed is soaked with? ever considered hooking up air somehow and pressurizing the other end to blow out the remaingin butane, without using butane?? or in my case, since my tube isnt fragile, I wonder if I can turn it upside down, put a coffee filter over the butane injecting hole, and put something like a wooden dowel or something into the extractor and compressed that butane soaked bud, letting the juices run out of the butane injection hole, into the filter and get those last few drops, maybe 5-10 more hoots of oil into the dish ;)
 

Guzias1

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most the time, i just let it drip, and waitttttttttttt..... an air blast idea sounds good though, ive seen some contraptions that look like they would be handy..

try that wooden dowel idea out! id like to know what happens, watch you double your yield :p
 

McMuffin

Active Member
Montana's not too bad in general when it comes to herb, but they aren't exactly lax. It's better here on the western side of the state though....away from the silly Dakotas. I'm currently in progress of moving to someplace with no snow, sights set on Cali. I really like rain too though lol gotta love that fresh air, so i wouldn't mind if it rained a decent amount where ever i end up. 30lb per harvest wow that's just a lot to me cause i don't distribute my product.

I'm not actually sure if I've mentioned this on the thread yet but I have only tried another persons BHO once. Everything else has been mine. I don't communicate with other growers near by at all, I just haven't made those connections and not social enough to in the first place. I am getting more social though and once I'm in Cali I plan to make a few good grow friends to share and compare and have good times with.

What consistency do you prefer? I had wax my first time, dry enough it wouldn't stick to the dabber. Which is kinda annoying to me so i prefer shatter or even if it just starts to wax up it's still okay to me.

Top shelf trim is def a good idea, you get out what you put in...but i feel you should know that if you are as experienced as you sound. I was going to mention ICMAG, guess i chose this site first due to this thread and i only have time for one site lol.
It rains alot in Seattle, but when its clear the scenery is beautiful.

regarding BHO, I prefer bone dry wax where I can pinch off a piece off the cookie, mold it to a triangle or a ball or something between my fingers and drop it on the nail without the use of the dabber and it not leaving any residue on my fingers from handling it. I find the only time I really even need a dabber is when I am dealing with shatter or stickier oils. I dont descriminate though I love me some shatter so I guess as long as its not goop or unpurged I wont discriminate lol.

And I do have some years of experience as a grower however again this is my first venture into extracting and purging bho but alas the goal is to become a master of the craft :) And yes I will be super picky regarding the quality of the trim.
 

650baquet

Active Member
how are you getting that last can out of the tube that the weed is soaked with? ever considered hooking up air somehow and pressurizing the other end to blow out the remaingin butane, without using butane?? or in my case, since my tube isnt fragile, I wonder if I can turn it upside down, put a coffee filter over the butane injecting hole, and put something like a wooden dowel or something into the extractor and compressed that butane soaked bud, letting the juices run out of the butane injection hole, into the filter and get those last few drops, maybe 5-10 more hoots of oil into the dish ;)
You beat me to the question! I've been trying to think of the best way to get all the juices out of material after my soaks...was considering a french press type of soaking jar. Just press and pour over the filter(s) over the pan. I feel like your dowel system would be solid. Simple and easy. I just looked at my large mason jar and the walls and bottom are covered with bits of oil. Alcohol soak should get me at least a few more dabs. I feel pressing the material is the best solution, but because i use a lot of bud i usually perform second runs, so it's debatable if i should press on the first run just to get more then, or leave it to be rinsed off during the second run, pressing then.
 

vacpurge

New Member
I would just press on the second run. pressing might lower quality. leave the first run 100% quality over quantity. then go for the weight on the 2nd run.
 

650baquet

Active Member
Givin me some munchies right now...lol

In the middle of soaking the TrainW trim, I filled a ss bowl with ice and water, stuck the jar in there to help insulate it. Bad idea, i knew it could possible all freeze up, then after blasting i notice the butane boiling pretty dang quick. I realized it's drawing all of the heat from the water and indeed i stood and watched the water freeze up solid in about 20 sec...pretty dang sweet actually. so i pull the jar out lodged in a chunk of ice and i grab the nearest hard object to break ice off with, then wrapped what didn't break off in a towel so no water dropped as i drained into the pan. Fun stuff lol but it worked out just fine...except for the whole butane boiling faster, anything insulating needs to be like 10F or less i feel. or the butane is going to transfer energy to make it as cold as it is.
 

650baquet

Active Member
Well the color in the pan looks very nice. See how she looks in the AM after a long 50F ish initial purge then into the vacuum with some heat eventually. I might leave it sitting out at 70F for a while before throwing it into the vacuum depending on how i feel.
 

Guzias1

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Well the color in the pan looks very nice. See how she looks in the AM after a long 50F ish initial purge then into the vacuum with some heat eventually. I might leave it sitting out at 70F for a while before throwing it into the vacuum depending on how i feel.
70 just gets stuck fairly quick no? why not try 86F or higher? ive never done it, but since you are starting low, mid 80s sound safe for an over nighter, damnnnn, i wanna make some right now!!
 

rastakolnikov

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Givin me some munchies right now...lol

In the middle of soaking the TrainW trim, I filled a ss bowl with ice and water, stuck the jar in there to help insulate it. Bad idea, i knew it could possible all freeze up, then after blasting i notice the butane boiling pretty dang quick. I realized it's drawing all of the heat from the water and indeed i stood and watched the water freeze up solid in about 20 sec...pretty dang sweet actually. so i pull the jar out lodged in a chunk of ice and i grab the nearest hard object to break ice off with, then wrapped what didn't break off in a towel so no water dropped as i drained into the pan. Fun stuff lol but it worked out just fine...except for the whole butane boiling faster, anything insulating needs to be like 10F or less i feel. or the butane is going to transfer energy to make it as cold as it is.
Have you considered using a thremos for your soak? You can put it in the freezer to chill beforehand (butane too), and it is well insulated so the butane will stay liquid for longer.
 

Twitch

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Have you considered using a thremos for your soak? You can put it in the freezer to chill beforehand (butane too), and it is well insulated so the butane will stay liquid for longer.
it also pulls chlorophyll the longer any solvent sits in plant material, like iso extracts, thats why alot of the people are getting into this winterizing. where they will do a bho blast and then take the bho and run it into iso extract to get the waxes out and butane out (which is actually a very small amount of wax and arent you smoking those waxes when you smoke flower?)
although i can see the advantages to this method if you don't have a vac chamber and cant get all the butane out of your bho.
i have dont blast got a 14 grams return pull the stuff out gound it up to powder (the bud) and then got a .3 return on the second run. I truly believe you get almost all when you blast till it turns clear, but to each is own.
 

Twitch

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maybe, in that one rip no, but i am sure y'all sit don't for more then just 1 rip off your bong when you smoke out?? but i have seen first hand the waxes they pull out of a 7 gram bho puck and it wasn't anything that could barely be measured.
 

Guzias1

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Nice chamber have the same one with a 6 cfm master cool pump
6cfm pump sounds lik eit will hit full vac pretty fast..

is that the only pump you have ever heard? I have a 3cfmmer..

To get full vac, I usually let my 3cfm pump run for over 10 minutes.

also, do you have this EXACT chamber? VAC-IT-PRO .... how long have you had it? can you say you have used it over 10 times? do you notice any cracks forming across your lid?
 

Guzias1

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maybe, in that one rip no, but i am sure y'all sit don't for more then just 1 rip off your bong when you smoke out?? but i have seen first hand the waxes they pull out of a 7 gram bho puck and it wasn't anything that could barely be measured.
have you winterized yet? i need to pick up some everclear.. grrr.. i want to make some bossssss shatter. just for fun :]
 
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