2013 Kentucky Marijuana Eradication

[Doer]

with no compassion, no acting on beliefs? I bet you haven't...its too hard struggling to make a living and be online airing your shit scented opinions.. and now, you act like you know how things work in Kentucky. you may have an idea, something you read online, but you don't know, cause you don't know, cause you never been there.

You value compassion in a forum? That's on you.

And you are miss a point that Hark well understands. One can freely pick up and move out of Kentucy to a friendly grow State within our own country. Hark cannot.

 

[Harrekin]

You value compassion in a forum? That's on you.

And you are miss a point that Hark well understands. One can freely pick up and move out of Kentucy to a friendly grow State within our own country. Hark cannot.

The OP did ask what the best way not to be caught in Hicksville USA (where marijuana laws are strict, like here) was.

I replied with tell noone and let noone know (which I meant put your lights, etc inside a box, don't carry them openly when moving).

Then ultraviolet gimp went all full retard and he missed the point that the only way not to get caught is by telling noone, regardless of geographical location.

I like winning at tRollitup tho.

 

[mudminer]

It can't be undone, once on the net it will always be on the net, forever and ever.

in other words: what happens on the interweb.... stays on the interweb. FOEVA MUTHAFUKA!! im sorry. i know that aint true. (maybe on riu it is. idk.) i couldnt help it. really. i had no control over my thumbs. L ing O L.

 

[ultraviolet pirate]

You value compassion in a forum? That's on you.

And you are miss a point that Hark well understands. One can freely pick up and move out of Kentucy to a friendly grow State within our own country. Hark cannot.

you should read that again man.

 

[ultraviolet pirate]

harrekin, do you know the OP is growing outdoors? taking lights to your guerrilla grow, that's on national forest, even if you told no one, is still gonna look suspicious. where are you gonna find an extension cord long enough? this is why I say you talk out of the side of your neck.

 

[Harrekin]

harrekin, do you know the OP is growing outdoors? taking lights to your guerrilla grow, that's on national forest, even if you told no one, is still gonna look suspicious. where are you gonna find an extension cord long enough? this is why I say you talk out of the side of your neck.

And how different is my advice of growing indoors to growing outdoors??

Dont tell anyone and hide your supplies when they're in transit...are you so stupid you can see the parallel, butt-pirate?

 

[Doer]

you should read that again man.

It's like a treasure hunt? One instruction at a time...OK. Now what?

Originally Posted by Doer
You value compassion in a forum? That's on you.

And you are missing a point that Hark well understands. One can freely pick up and move out of Kentucky to a friendly grow State within our own country. Hark cannot.

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What did I miss? Ireland doesn't have friendly place to grow....or do they?

 

[Dr Kynes]

Just don't tell anyone you have them.

Reduces all migitable risks to as near 0 as possible.

nah bro, hes talking the airborne search for kentucky's notorious outdoor grows.

KY used to be fuill of hemp farms, and the shit grows wild out there (mostly ditchweed though) and the KY mountain folk still do moonshining, to some extent, but growing cannabis is the new plan.

Kentucky is farm country, and some farmers are so up against the ropes that growing dope seems like the only way to pay off the bank and tax man.

 

[Harrekin]

nah bro, hes talking the airborne search for kentucky's notorious outdoor grows.

KY used to be fuill of hemp farms, and the shit grows wild out there (mostly ditchweed though) and the KY mountain folk still do moonshining, to some extent, but growing cannabis is the new plan.

Kentucky is farm country, and some farmers are so up against the ropes that growing dope seems like the only way to pay off the bank and tax man.

Do what the rest of us do...

Shrubbery.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Do what the rest of us do...

Shrubbery.

nah see the dea uses Forward Looking Infra Red cameras and other high tech gadgets to pick your dope out of the corn or tobacco fields, locate hotspots from indoor growrooms and otherwise make a nuisance of themselves

i believe the OP was hoping for specifics on whether the DEA's budget for "eradication" had been cut through the sequester, but nah, schools libraries and firehouses can shut down by the bucketful, but not one step back on dope eradication or the glorious "War On Drugs... cuz if you get high, the terrorists win.

 

[Harrekin]

nah see the dea uses Forward Looking Infra Red cameras and other high tech gadgets to pick your dope out of the corn or tobacco fields, locate hotspots from indoor growrooms and otherwise make a nuisance of themselves

i believe the OP was hoping for specifics on whether the DEA's budget for "eradication" had been cut through the sequester, but nah, schools libraries and firehouses can shut down by the bucketful, but not one step back on dope eradication or the glorious "War On Drugs... cuz if you get high, the terrorists win.

FLIR only detects differences in heat, they can't pick up outdoor grows bro

 

[psychadelibud]

FLIR only detects differences in heat, they can't pick up outdoor grows bro

Yes, you are correct. The Kentucky outdoor marijuana eradication does not use infrared. Trust me, I am correct
on this. They use highly trained spotters in the air. In this area we have the National Guard, KSP, DEA, US Marshalls,
HIDTA ( an appalachian drug task force ) and even local sheriffs riding in choppers pointing out known growers homes
to help them out. Unless you are from Ky, you really wouldnt know. Its not uncommon to wake up at 9:30 am and your
house vibrating and look outside and the bubble choppers (black, very small and can manuver anywhere literally) hoover
as low as to 15 feet from your vegetable garden just looking for plants.

They fly so hard and desperate here i've literally walked out on my porch and could have straight eye contact with the
chopper operator. This is not bullshit, this is reality here in Ky. To be honest, last year they got desperate enough to hoover
over potential areas and 3 or 4 task force members would repel down and walk miles throughout the woods just looking
for it. Seen that with my own eyes too... They were walking the edge of my grandmothers farm fields.

I'm just curious as to how to grow here and get by with enough to pay a few bills, help raise a family and have enough
herb to smoke on because it seems fucking impossible. My old dealer gets his stash from a man that gets by with almost
a hundred lbs a year. How? I have no idea and he is an old ass man. Im very physically fit and would like to at least get by
with a few lbs ya know, but its hard you have to pretty much grow in the shade. Ive done lst but that doesnt seem to help
from aerial view, only passerbys. I know some people can get a lb or over per plant but thats a big ass plant and this is not
Nor Cal, you just cant grow monster plants here. If someone can, please inform me on how this can be done? Most people
I think grows small plants 2ft wide hole by 2 ft deep. Sometimes much smaller, but they put out many many plants to
achieve the results they get, smaller plants mean less visble from above.

I mean shit, is there not anyone on this thread that could help a fellow Ky grower out? There has to be. How in the
hell do you do it??? Whats the secret? PM me if you dont want to go public with it, I just need some insight here, its so damn
frustrating, a serious serious matter that everyone seems to want to joke about or ramble about. Why can't there just be a
Ky thread so we can start beating the choppers like they beat us???

 

[Harrekin]

Again, did I not say at the start thaf pot is considered the same as heroin here...?

European Socialists hate "drugs" even more than Obama does.

 

[Dr Kynes]

FLIR only detects differences in heat, they can't pick up outdoor grows bro

FLIR also can record the differences in IR reflection between different species of plants in daylight, allowing the DEA and local PO PO to single out dope plants from the air. thats how they find the deep gully grows in the san gabriel mountains, and in the sierras.

FLIR can totally pick out your dope plants. thats why they use it.

youre thinking of Thermal Imaging which is totally different. FLIR uses mostly near infrared, while thermal imaging is all about far infrared.

 

[Harrekin]

FLIR also can record the differences in IR reflection between different species of plants in daylight, allowing the DEA and local PO PO to single out dope plants from the air. thats how they find the deep gully grows in the san gabriel mountains, and in the sierras.

FLIR can totally pick out your dope plants. thats why they use it.

youre thinking of Thermal Imaging which is totally different. FLIR uses mostly near infrared, while thermal imaging is all about far infrared.

I'm sorry, but I call bullshit.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Yes, you are correct. The Kentucky outdoor marijuana eradication does not use infrared. Trust me, I am correct
on this. They use highly trained spotters in the air. In this area we have the National Guard, KSP, DEA, US Marshalls,
HIDTA ( an appalachian drug task force ) and even local sheriffs riding in choppers pointing out known growers homes
to help them out. Unless you are from Ky, you really wouldnt know. Its not uncommon to wake up at 9:30 am and your
house vibrating and look outside and the bubble choppers (black, very small and can manuver anywhere literally) hoover
as low as to 15 feet from your vegetable garden just looking for plants.

They fly so hard and desperate here i've literally walked out on my porch and could have straight eye contact with the
chopper operator. This is not bullshit, this is reality here in Ky. To be honest, last year they got desperate enough to hoover
over potential areas and 3 or 4 task force members would repel down and walk miles throughout the woods just looking
for it. Seen that with my own eyes too... They were walking the edge of my grandmothers farm fields.

I'm just curious as to how to grow here and get by with enough to pay a few bills, help raise a family and have enough
herb to smoke on because it seems fucking impossible. My old dealer gets his stash from a man that gets by with almost
a hundred lbs a year. How? I have no idea and he is an old ass man. Im very physically fit and would like to at least get by
with a few lbs ya know, but its hard you have to pretty much grow in the shade. Ive done lst but that doesnt seem to help
from aerial view, only passerbys. I know some people can get a lb or over per plant but thats a big ass plant and this is not
Nor Cal, you just cant grow monster plants here. If someone can, please inform me on how this can be done? Most people
I think grows small plants 2ft wide hole by 2 ft deep. Sometimes much smaller, but they put out many many plants to
achieve the results they get, smaller plants mean less visble from above.

I mean shit, is there not anyone on this thread that could help a fellow Ky grower out? There has to be. How in the
hell do you do it??? Whats the secret? PM me if you dont want to go public with it, I just need some insight here, its so damn
frustrating, a serious serious matter that everyone seems to want to joke about or ramble about. Why can't there just be a
Ky thread so we can start beating the choppers like they beat us???

if KY isnt using FLIR, then they are doing it the hard way.

http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?seq_no_115=195199

california narcs have been using FLIR for years, and a dope plant stands out like a neon sign through FLIR (properly calibrated of course) due to it's unique reflected spectrum when compared to the surrounding foliage, especially in daylight.

http://www.leta.org/HotSpot/outdoor-detection.htm

thermal imaging can detect the soils disturbance from the planting, when compared to the local native foliage

and of course spotters looking for the peculiar shape and colour with the Mark One Eyeball technology.

 

[Harrekin]

if KY isnt using FLIR, then they are doing it the hard way.

http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?seq_no_115=195199

california narcs have been using FLIR for years, and a dope plant stands out like a neon sign through FLIR (properly calibrated of course) due to it's unique reflected spectrum when compared to the surrounding foliage, especially in daylight.

http://www.leta.org/HotSpot/outdoor-detection.htm

thermal imaging can detect the soils disturbance from the planting, when compared to the local native foliage

and of course spotters looking for the peculiar shape and colour with the Mark One Eyeball technology.

It's "unique reflected spectrum" is meaningless on FLIR.

That's why it's FLIR, it displays heat differences as different colours, visible light spectrum is what you have binoculars for

 

[Dr Kynes]

I'm sorry, but I call bullshit.

FLIR image:

Thermal Imaging Image:

Thermal imaging records Far Infrared Heat, Flir records near infrared radiation thats much closer to visible light.

FLIR cameras can be calibrated to narrow wavelengths for different purposes, to reduce the background noise in open deserts where everything is hot and highly reflective, or to focus on a particular band that is relevant to the interest of the observer, like the reflections of a particular plant's leafs.

FLIR cameras can also be used to map colours to various temperatures, turning them into "Thermal Imaging" cameras, but when discussing FLIR, they are almost always used in the near infrared range, and when tuned to the farther spectrums with colour mapping they are then discussed as "Thermal Imaging" it's the same technology, but the thermal imaging is less useful for law enforcement as you cannot ID a perp based on his heat signature. near Infrared can get a face. near infrared can also tell the difference between plants based on how they reflect light, emphasizing the wavelengths dope reflects which pine trees and oaks do not.


http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?seq_no_115=195199

again, california has been using the infrared spectroscopy method for years.

 

[Dr Kynes]

It's "unique reflected spectrum" is meaningless on FLIR.

That's why it's FLIR, it displays heat differences as different colours, visible light spectrum is what you have binoculars for

yes, infrared may be invisible to the naked eye, but it does in fact reflect off surfaces. the closer wavelengths of infrared to the visible spectrum are useful for seeing shit in darkness, as a grey, or amber or green monochrome image with faces, readble text, and whatnot. the farther spectrums of infrared are useful for picking out the hot spot of somebody hifding in light cover, or locating somebody indoors or detecting disturbed soil...

it's all infrared, but infrared covers a shitload of territory. infrared is a much much MUCH wider spectrum than visible light, providing even wider gradations and more opportunities to tailor your image for just what you want.

 

[Harrekin]

yes, infrared may be invisible to the naked eye, but it does in fact reflect off surfaces. the closer wavelengths of infrared to the visible spectrum are useful for seeing shit in darkness, as a grey, or amber or green monochrome image with faces, readble text, and whatnot. the farther spectrums of infrared are useful for picking out the hot spot of somebody hifding in light cover, or locating somebody indoors or detecting disturbed soil...

it's all infrared, but infrared covers a shitload of territory. infrared is a much much MUCH wider spectrum than visible light, providing even wider gradations and more opportunities to tailor your image for just what you want.

It's been done to death in the growing section of this site.

FLIR CANNOT DETECT CANNABIS PLANTS DIRECTLY.