Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!

[Shwagbag]

Oh shit, someone said Azamax :O

I found this out by accident.... Topping with a nice dose of castings helps to combat them too. I had gnats for the better part of two years and tried half a dozen remedies. The castings dry out and crust up so their larvae can't survive. DIEDIEDIE!

S420, get some Azamax and put it in a safe place. Consider it to your garden as your 12 gauge is to your home's protection LOL.

 

[Sincerely420]

Oh shit, someone said Azamax :O

I found this out by accident.... Topping with a nice dose of castings helps to combat them too. I had gnats for the better part of two years and tried half a dozen remedies. The castings dry out and crust up so their larvae can't survive. DIEDIEDIE!

S420, get some Azamax and put it in a safe place. Consider it to your garden as your 12 gauge is to your home's protection LOL.

Next time I re-up on supplies I'll scoop some without a doubt gentleman!
I def. can't say that I'll NEVER have a gnat problem so it's better I be prepared for sure

 

[JbGramz]

I too had a gnat problem but firewater fixes it no problem.

 

[Sincerely420]

http://www.weekendgardener.net/organic-fertilizer/molasses-050805.htm

A+++ Read!

 

[Shwagbag]

OK organic peeps! I need some feedback on a mix recipe.

7 bags of FFOF = 10.5 ft^3
50# worm castings
Dairy Doo Humified Compost (from cow manure) 2.0 ft^3 Link
Dr. Earth 745 - 7.0# (4-10-7) Link
Epsoma Tomato Tone - 7.0# (3-4-6) Link
N bat guano - 5#
P bat guano - 10 cups
Powdered lime - 4 cups
Epsom salts - 2 cups
Kelp meal - 2#
Humic acid - 4 cups
Azomite - 6 cups
Dimaceous Earth - 4 cups

Mix it, hit it with tea and cook that shit for a couple weeks and make dank.

What do you think? Comments please and thanks! I'm thinking a small boost in Potassium wouldn't hurt? IDK, I'm digging the mix between Dr. Earth 745 and Tomato Tone.

 

[Sincerely420]

Some places have # bro. What's that mean?
Wanna know what everything means before I give you an opinion boss

And all the K that you need will come by way of the Dr. Earth, the tomato tone, and kelp meal!

I mix everything up by the cup bro, just to stay consistent lol and the least confused lol. Dry cups in a pound vary depending on what it is.
And I'm saying that in total mineral and nutritional enrichment, you should add between 30-50 cups total brother!
30 would be cool, 40 would be being safer than sorry, and 50 would be super soil amounts!

And as far as your compost amount, sounds perfect given the fact that you wanna use EWCs! You can figure that one out without a prob.
I'm gonna try the mushroom compost in the next run with the ancient forest I added!
But I think you should have between 3-3.5 cu ft of compost in 10.5 cu ft of mix! 2-2.5 cu ft if you gonna use EWCs, as that's compost in it own!

From there I say add somewhere between 30-40 cups in total, of all you mineral and nutritional amendments. So you're Dr. Earth, Tomato Tone, Kelp Meal, Azomite, Lime, Guanos, and D.E should total between 30-40 cups altogether!

I do think you could do with some Rock Dust if you can find it!
And don't for get to go ahead an inoculate the soil with mycos, so that they'll be there when the roots come looking!

 

[Shwagbag]

Some places have # bro. What's that mean?
Wanna know what everything means before I give you an opinion boss

And all the K that you need will come by way of the Dr. Earth, the tomato tone, and kelp meal!

I mix everything up by the cup bro, just to stay consistent lol and the least confused lol. Dry cups in a pound vary depending on what it is.
And I'm saying that in total mineral and nutritional enrichment, you should add between 30-50 cups total brother!
30 would be cool, 40 would be being safer than sorry, and 50 would be super soil amounts!

And as far as your compost amount, sounds perfect given the fact that you wanna use EWCs! You can figure that one out without a prob.
I'm gonna try the mushroom compost in the next run with the ancient forest I added!
But I think you should have between 3-3.5 cu ft of compost in 10.5 cu ft of mix! 2-2.5 cu ft if you gonna use EWCs, as that's compost in it own!

From there I say add somewhere between 30-40 cups in total, of all you mineral and nutritional amendments. So you're Dr. Earth, Tomato Tone, Kelp Meal, Azomite, Lime, Guanos, and D.E should total between 30-40 cups altogether!

I do think you could do with some Rock Dust if you can find it!
And don't for get to go ahead an inoculate the soil with mycos, so that they'll be there when the roots come looking!

Thanks dOOd!

I think I have some Rock dust on hand. As for the #, say it loud. # = pound. Its what S420 does to pussy.

I agree, I think I'm good on K.

Among those amendments I should be over 50 cups of amendments. I figure I'd rather be too hot than too light, I can always cut it with Pro-Mix like I'm doing now if its a little rich. I wish I would have done it before I got so low on super soil though, I'll have to jump in with both feet. I'll inoculate with subcultures A & B that we were talking about awhile back. I forgot about the ancient forest, I'll throw a bag of that in there too lol.

Have you looked at Dr. Earth products? They have some sweet shit mang! 100% organic POTting Soil lol. And every organic additive you can think of pretty much.

Link

 

[Shwagbag]

There's a good chance I'll be subsituting the guanos for blood meal and fish bone meal. I bought 25 lbs of each of them last time I prepped for a mix lol. I need to liquidate some stuff. Second thought, I don't think I need either guano or fish bone meal added with the amounts of ferts I'm putting in. I just thought I would add a little guano for the diversity. Def needs some extra N though so i think the blood meal or N guano is needed.

 

[Sincerely420]

Thanks dOOd!

I think I have some Rock dust on hand. As for the #, say it loud. # = pound. Its what S420 does to pussy.

I agree, I think I'm good on K.

Among those amendments I should be over 50 cups of amendments. I figure I'd rather be too hot than too light, I can always cut it with Pro-Mix like I'm doing now if its a little rich. I wish I would have done it before I got so low on super soil though, I'll have to jump in with both feet. I'll inoculate with subcultures A & B that we were talking about awhile back. I forgot about the ancient forest, I'll throw a bag of that in there too lol.

Have you looked at Dr. Earth products? They have some sweet shit mang! 100% organic POTting Soil lol. And every organic additive you can think of pretty much.

Link

Lol I'm an idiot for not seeing that you meant pound lol. I kept saying "hashtag" lol. "Twitter".
And indeed that's what I do lol!

And I'd say you wanna be too light rather than too hot boss, because you compost content will handle a lot of probs for you as far as nutritional content.
The mycos will also help things out.
But they don't really count the compost as a fertilizer becuause they can't efficient measure the NPK content on compost on a mass scale..
Notice it never has an NPK...But we all know it VERY nutritious!
Not too mention the use of the AACTs. I'd say you don't wanna be heavy if you're gone use those heavily you know.

You've already had issues being too hot lol. So I'd go opposite that and see wassup.
You literally can't account for the NPK in the compost tho...But think of it as a nutrional amendment.

What you think now?!

And as soon as I run outta the things I've have now I'm gonna start looking again! Haven't thought about it in a while tho, other than looking for compost and EWCs ya know?! But I'll def check the Dr. Earths out bro! Anything you suggest I'm gonna give it a peep!

And of course I'll hit you back for advice when I'm mixing the next batch lol! So make sure you stay ready for homie!

Caregiver just brought over some canna oil and I am SKY HIGH bro! I'm PERCULATING haha!
He made it outta the first batch of kif I got!

 

[Sincerely420]

There's a good chance I'll be subsituting the guanos for blood meal and fish bone meal. I bought 25 lbs of each of them last time I prepped for a mix lol. I need to liquidate some stuff. Second thought, I don't think I need either guano or fish bone meal added with the amounts of ferts I'm putting in. I just thought I would add a little guano for the diversity. Def needs some extra N though so i think the blood meal or N guano is needed.

And look at the labels of the Tomato Tone and Dr. Earth bro! You'll see blood meal and fish bone meal I'm sure!
Remember you already went hot and had issues lol! So less try from the other end right?!
And you're gonna get a TON of N fixed from you compost content and your EWCS. EWCs are constant, pure N bro!
I would keep that guano as it has addition properties like mineralization and it's good for the surpression of harmful nematodes in the soil boss!

 

[Shwagbag]

Lol I'm an idiot for not seeing that you meant pound lol. I kept saying "hashtag" lol. "Twitter".
And indeed that's what I do lol!

And I'd say you wanna be too light rather than too hot boss, because you compost content will handle a lot of probs for you as far as nutritional content.
The mycos will also help things out.
But they don't really count the compost as a fertilizer becuause they can't efficient measure the NPK content on compost on a mass scale..
Notice it never has an NPK...But we all know it VERY nutritious!
Not too mention the use of the AACTs. I'd say you don't wanna be heavy if you're gone use those heavily you know.

You've already had issues being too hot lol. So I'd go opposite that and see wassup.
You literally can't account for the NPK in the compost tho...But think of it as a nutrional amendment.

What you think now?!

And as soon as I run outta the things I've have now I'm gonna start looking again! Haven't thought about it in a while tho, other than looking for compost and EWCs ya know?! But I'll def check the Dr. Earths out bro! Anything you suggest I'm gonna give it a peep!

And of course I'll hit you back for advice when I'm mixing the next batch lol! So make sure you stay ready for homie!

Caregiver just brought over some canna oil and I am SKY HIGH bro! I'm PERCULATING haha!
He made it outta the first batch of kif I got!

Yeah I'm struggling with these fertilizer mixes to find the right amounts. I don't really want to use AACTS anymore, I think I'd prefer going back to mostly water and microbial teas every 10 to 14 days, just keep inoculating basically. I'm going to measure out a few cups of each of those ferts tomorrow and see how many cups are in a pound.

Super Soil uses 5# each of blood meal, fish bone meal and P guano plus 3 lbs of rock phosphate (granular for slower release). So I figured 15 lbs of the tomato tone and Dr. Earth 745 would be a fair equivalent for them + the kelp meal. I'm not sure I even need the N/P guano or blood meal/fish bone meal really but its worth discussing! If I feel the mix is light on something I can also dump the shit out of the cans and mix it up again and it wouldn't take much time. Also, like you said I'm using more compost than I normally do, I think the most I've ever used is 1 bag or .5 cubic feet in the batch of 12 cubic feet of soil. So I'm basically using 4 times that with less soil so I end up with about the same volume of soil mix.

Enjoy your buzz! I didn't smoke today I'll be getting blazed after work tomorrow tho! Ttyl, I'll check back in tomorrow.

 

[Shwagbag]

And look at the labels of the Tomato Tone and Dr. Earth bro! You'll see blood meal and fish bone meal I'm sure!
Remember you already went hot and had issues lol! So less try from the other end right?!
And you're gonna get a TON of N fixed from you compost content and your EWCS. EWCs are constant, pure N bro!
I would keep that guano as it has addition properties like mineralization and it's good for the surpression of harmful nematodes in the soil boss!

Very good point, they should both be in there lol. That's the main reason I wanted the Guano in there is for other purposes. Attaboi, I'll shelf the blood and bone meal. I hope the gf wants to do some planting outdoors this year lol.

EDIT:

Duuuuuude, I just thought of something as I looked at my Querkle maturing. I was thinking I need to add more carbs to these hookers and bulk them up more and help feed the herd between tea applications. And I thought, I wonder if you can add carbs to the soil mix. And I thought, is there such a thing as powdered mollasses? And it turns out, yes there is! I know we all hate using mollasses, damn messy thick sticky shit.

I just ordered some more powdered humic acid, azomite and dry mollasses. Just a heads up, do not store your humic acid in a humid environment, it causes it to "chunk" and it doesn't like to dissolve in a chunky state lol.

 

[Sincerely420]

Def gonna get some humid acid boss!
Just gonna wait till the next run!
And yep, powdered molasses is basically molasses sprayed on grain then dried bro!
Was looking at that a couple nights ago, but the kelp and alfalfa in the mix also add growth hormones!
And Azomite and bat guano are the new additions in the current soil mix that weren't in the last, and these buds are much more chunky than before, so I def. approve of them haha!

We gotta get up in our foliar too! Some aloe and coconut water for the leaves during veg!
coat the leaves with a lil layer you know?! Like putting lotion or moisturizer on the skin u know?!
Nice post lad

 

[Sincerely420]

Yeah I'm struggling with these fertilizer mixes to find the right amounts. I don't really want to use AACTS anymore, I think I'd prefer going back to mostly water and microbial teas every 10 to 14 days, just keep inoculating basically. I'm going to measure out a few cups of each of those ferts tomorrow and see how many cups are in a pound.

Super Soil uses 5# each of blood meal, fish bone meal and P guano plus 3 lbs of rock phosphate (granular for slower release). So I figured 15 lbs of the tomato tone and Dr. Earth 745 would be a fair equivalent for them + the kelp meal. I'm not sure I even need the N/P guano or blood meal/fish bone meal really but its worth discussing! If I feel the mix is light on something I can also dump the shit out of the cans and mix it up again and it wouldn't take much time. Also, like you said I'm using more compost than I normally do, I think the most I've ever used is 1 bag or .5 cubic feet in the batch of 12 cubic feet of soil. So I'm basically using 4 times that with less soil so I end up with about the same volume of soil mix.

Enjoy your buzz! I didn't smoke today I'll be getting blazed after work tomorrow tho! Ttyl, I'll check back in tomorrow.

What you mean by microbial teas boss?!
and yeah I think u def. needed more compost haha! And he'll yeah you can always re amend bro!
if you add anything that needs to be cycled tho, like any more ferts, you have to cook the soil again for 30 days.
you can always add compost and EWCs tho, because they don't burn! I think everything else we use will!

 

[Sincerely420]

But bro, whatever you choose to do in the end, we can learn from an build off it!
I usually isolate the changes I make so I have something to attribute my issues too, so maybe the mix you were killin shit in should be revisited and revised

 

[bazookajoe]

Sup FFOF'ers?? I'm new to the"clean scene", ditchin the chemicals.. count me in this piece! Haha.. seems like a lively bunch up in here! Got my first bag of ffof today along with .5 cu.ft EWC, hi brix molasses, high P and N guanos (2.2#/1#) and EJ microblast.

Mixed half the ewc's with the ffof and about 2gals of perlite I had on hand. Am I in good shape? Lookin to just add water and an occasional guano and/
or ewc tea.. will that suffice or do I need some extries??

 

[Sincerely420]

Broo you're gonna be blown away by the taste difference in "organic" and "nonorganic" smoke!
So kudos and congrats to switching boss

I'd say that you can mix ALL those EWCs into your soil mix if you're using 1 bag of FFOF.
You do mean the big bag right? 1.5 cu ft?
If so, you should mix a cup of each Bat Guano into your soil mix, as well as all those EWCs!
Don't have to use ALL of the EWC's but the more the better! Make sure you use at least 80-90% of that bag if you don't wanna use it all.

After you mix everything up, water your soil down and let it sit for at least 3wks.
You have to let the microbes in the soil work on the guanos.

Also get some lime if you can. Dolomite lime of hi-cal lime(I use this).

Also that Hi brix Mollases is the same as the stuff you can buy from your grocery store or the grocery section in Wally world!
So no need to buy it again when you run out.

Also get some kelp meal if you can.

Of course you can do without, but if you wanna get from start to finish with water only, it's best you give your girls some help

Ps, you can also make you own "bottled nutes" in the for of compost teas!
No need to buy anything extra, just use what you have

 

[bazookajoe]

Thanks man.. that's what I've been readin!
Yea I got the 1.5er and ill go ahead n mix the rest of the ewc's in there. I'm tryin to aviod the cooking process if possible due to time restraints(moving in 73 days). Got clones a 1.5wks into veg lookin for 2wks.. week dry time and 60sum days inbetween. I was hopin that the AACT would keep me from havin to cook the mix. But if it doesn't work like that then ill just save the mix for after the move and it'll be super cooked.
When u say water it down..how much water?
Planned on gettin the dolomite lime but shop owner doesn't carry it bc she doesnt believe in it. So ill hit lowes n get some espoma DL.
I've looked @ WM and other grocery stores for molasses and couldn't find it, but the hi brix was only $5 n some change.for 16oz., but if its cheaper @ the store then ill have a clerk get the shit for me.
10/4 on the kelp meal bro..how much should I add to my measly 1 bag? Same 1 cup like the guanos?
Good lookin out.. HAPPY 4/20 To all!!

Broo you're gonna be blown away by the taste difference in "organic" and "nonorganic" smoke!
So kudos and congrats to switching boss

I'd say that you can mix ALL those EWCs into your soil mix if you're using 1 bag of FFOF.
You do mean the big bag right? 1.5 cu ft?
If so, you should mix a cup of each Bat Guano into your soil mix, as well as all those EWCs!
Don't have to use ALL of the EWC's but the more the better! Make sure you use at least 80-90% of that bag if you don't wanna use it all.

After you mix everything up, water your soil down and let it sit for at least 3wks.
You have to let the microbes in the soil work on the guanos.

Also get some lime if you can. Dolomite lime of hi-cal lime(I use this).

Also that Hi brix Mollases is the same as the stuff you can buy from your grocery store or the grocery section in Wally world!
So no need to buy it again when you run out.

Also get some kelp meal if you can.

Of course you can do without, but if you wanna get from start to finish with water only, it's best you give your girls some help

Ps, you can also make you own "bottled nutes" in the for of compost teas!
No need to buy anything extra, just use what you have

 

[Jozikins]

Good evening all my wonderful RIU friends how are your beautiful faces??

Quick question, it's been a while since I've used the FFOF, and I don't plan on doing anything fancy with it yet, I need to vend off another qp first make dat monayz. But what strength should I use for the FFOF if I'm cutting it with Sunshine Mix #4 for some well rooted and strong clones, still in little 2x2 rockwool starter cubes. I don't plan on adding extra perlite because I would like them to retain moisture while they are still young.

These are going into 1/2 gal or less, by the way. They'll be sitting in my sunroom with artificial lights extending photo period.

EDIT: Never mind, lol. I figured it out. supposedly well rooted clones are fine in FFOF, but I cut it with 2/5 Sunshine anyways.

 

[Shwagbag]

Good evening all my wonderful RIU friends how are your beautiful faces??

Quick question, it's been a while since I've used the FFOF, and I don't plan on doing anything fancy with it yet, I need to vend off another qp first make dat monayz. But what strength should I use for the FFOF if I'm cutting it with Sunshine Mix #4 for some well rooted and strong clones, still in little 2x2 rockwool starter cubes. I don't plan on adding extra perlite because I would like them to retain moisture while they are still young.

These are going into 1/2 gal or less, by the way. They'll be sitting in my sunroom with artificial lights extending photo period.

EDIT: Never mind, lol. I figured it out. supposedly well rooted clones are fine in FFOF, but I cut it with 2/5 Sunshine anyways.

They probby would be fine Jozi, but I prefer to cut everything for clones. I just use pro-mix with blended organics for my cuts to be safe. I hate losing a lady! I usually blend the organics after they leave the dome and are filling out their wee lil containers.