Would you classify US drone strikes as terrorism? Why/why not?

[ricky1lung]

That isnt Terrorism that is act of war we don't blow ppl up in-less we have a reason to blow ppl up if you live by or near a terrorist then well you need to die.. or you need to take action and gtfo before you go boom i love the drone 200 dead not one soldier destroyed flawless Good Game..

Are you responsible for your neighbors actions?
Would you enjoy being held responsible for anyone else's
actions you were not a part of?

 

[Harrekin]

"leaders/ bomb makers/ footsoldiers of terrorist cells operating in lawless countries who have professed intent on attacking the us" would be a reasonable definition to me

Define "terrorist" without taking a side, as though you'd no money in the game so to speak.

 

[NoDrama]

at least using drones less lives are at stake than conventional methods (think Mogadishu)

A total of 18 US Casualties happened in Mogadishu, I was there in the shit. 18 isn't very many at all, hell one guy with a gun in a school can do more damage than that. One drone shot in Mogadishu would easily kill 100 innocents. People live sardine style in that city.

 

[ricky1lung]

So if the delivery system doesn't matter, isn't bombing
a sovereign nation an act of war?

 

[Rob Roy]

yeah I agree man that's why I said no it doesn't matter what or how the bomb is delivered, the issue is how many innocent people it kills

I agree with that you one of the issues is how many innocent people are killed. I'll add that part of the equation that should receive more weight is, "who gets to decide who's innocent" ?

The problem with nationalism is that it seeks to justify murder. We are all INDIVIDUAL people, simply being in a place (or the "wrong place") does not justify killing a person, even if they aren't wearing your teams gang colors.

 

[ginjawarrior]

Define "terrorist" without taking a side, as though you'd no money in the game so to speak.

hmmm what?

 

[ginjawarrior]

A total of 18 US Casualties happened in Mogadishu, I was there in the shit. 18 isn't very many at all, hell one guy with a gun in a school can do more damage than that. One drone shot in Mogadishu would easily kill 100 innocents. People live sardine style in that city.

apart from the 18 "innocent" us casualties how many people got shot on the other side?

im not sure you've thought this thru

 

[echelon1k1]

Saudi Arabia is who blew up those planes, not Afghanistan nor Iraq. Bin Laden was a Saudi and funded by the Saudi government. I have no problems going after terrorists. We need to fuck shit up in Saudi Arabia.

After we level Saudi Arabia if there are any terrorists left, we go after Chechnya next.

In the meantime we declare Islam a group of militant combatants, like we do the KKK. Why is it hip to go after white supremacists after what Hitler did, but Allah is your people's best friend?

Saudi Arabia & Pakistan ARE the real state sponsors of terror. It's time to fuck the house of saud - shotgun style.

 

[echelon1k1]

apart from the 18 "innocent" us casualties how many people got shot on the other side?

im not sure you've thought this thru

As many as needed to be. Remember black hawk down could've been avoided had politicians listened to people on the ground.

 

[Red1966]

What else would you call it?

Not terrorism. We're not trying to intimidate or coerce. We are not targeting non-combatants. We're trying to eliminate leaders and operatives who are actively involved in hostilities. The right or wrong of drone strikes is debatable, but I don't think they fall under the definition of "terrorism".

 

[Red1966]

incorrect in less i am what i eat.. I have no problem killing a person to protect what is mine i'm from Texas, I learned to shoot a gun in diapers ...... and damn good at it.

Damn Texan pussy-eater. Don't put your gun in your diaper, the piss eats the bluing right off. Ask Buck.

 

[Red1966]

Most of his family are Saudi Royals, I don't think you know what you are talking about, as usual.

They're rich, but I don't think they're royalty.

 

[Red1966]

As many as needed to be. Remember black hawk down could've been avoided had politicians listened to people on the ground.

If the cheap bastards on the ground had donated more to their campaigns. the politicians would have been able to hear them.

 

[echelon1k1]

They're rich, but I don't think they're royalty.

they are royalty of sorts, self proclaimed... And Bin ladens family are tighter than a virigins cunt when it comes to their relationships with the bush family and those in the white house at the time.

Look up bandar bush, the carlyle group and where everyone was on the morning of 9/11.

 

[echelon1k1]

If the cheap bastards on the ground had donated more to their campaigns. the politicians would have been able to hear them.

That seems the case, but Garrison wasn't some new kid on the block. He'd proven his worth working black ops for the pentagon and was one of the few generals that had the respect of the shooters.

Marginalising a man like that was also a huge mistake IMO...

 

[Red1966]

Politicians think differently than the rest of us. What seems logical to you may be meaningless to a politician.

 

[mudminer]

So if the delivery system doesn't matter, isn't bombing a sovereign nation an act of war?

it is. thats why people with properly functioning minds have difficulty accepting the "retaliatory" response of the u.s. taking place on the fronts that it did.

 

[mudminer]

Saudi Arabia & Pakistan ARE the real state sponsors of terror. It's time to fuck the house of saud - shotgun style.

and who are the u.s.'s biggest allies in the region? just for clarification of course.

 

[echelon1k1]

and who are the u.s.'s biggest allies in the region? just for clarification of course.

Israel wins that one hands down.

Followed closely by Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan & Egypt.

If we want a stable and peaceful mid-east we must engage and include Iran in any efforts, that includes any more Af/Pak misadventures...

 

[mudminer]

they are royalty of sorts, self proclaimed... And Bin ladens family are tighter than a virigins cunt when it comes to their relationships with the bush family and those in the white house at the time.Look up bandar bush, the carlyle group and where everyone was on the morning of 9/11.

isnt it funny that the only non govt. or military flights in the air for 3 days after the 911 attacks were dedicated to evacuating bin laden family members from the country.