Well, if you believe in the 2nd Amendment, Obama has a surprise for you...

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gagekko

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Our country is under attack and Obama is focused on disarming citizens in violation of the 2nd Amendment.
New backdoor import ban of all parts kits and hi cap mags
After Senate setback, Obama quietly moving forward with gun regulation
A Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Final Rule published today in the Federal Register and a news release issued Friday by the Department of Health and Human Services, followed up with a notice to be published tomorrow, are two developments all but ignored by the mainstream press even though Vice President Joe Biden announced last week that the administration would be using executive orders to advance “gun control” goals following a Senate battle that could not muster the votes to do so legislatively.

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timlang420

timlang420

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why do you need the guns or the ammo the govt is trying to put restrictions on anyway? even if there where no laws for guns and you could have whatever weapon you wanted, do you think you'd be able to stand up against the military if the govt did start some shit with you?(which is what the 2nd amendment is for, because 224 years ago when the constitution was put into effect, the revolutionary war was a crazy event that recently happened and citizens needed muskets to fight the muskets of the oppressive govt and where able to defeat them) no, you still wouldnt stand a chance against their drones and tanks...and you certainly dont need them for hunting. so why does it matter? this is one of the few cases where i think the govt is doing a good thing to help keep us safer, and they're still doing a shitty job of it. wheres the arguement here? the govt is trampling your rights? your rights for what? is it a slippery slope that you think will end with every gun being taken away? do you need an automatic weapon for anything other than killing? my opinion on guns, any gun anywhere at anytime, is why? (super hippie right now) whats the point? they are just dangerous to me. i know there has always been ways to kill people, but guns just make it way to easy.

also, one of the measures i read was limiting clips to 10 rounds...really? so they just need more clips? or when the guns are used irresponsibly they just kill fewer people?
 
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gagekko

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timlang420 said:
why do you need the guns or the ammo the govt is trying to put restrictions on anyway? even if there where no laws for guns and you could have whatever weapon you wanted, do you think you'd be able to stand up against the military if the govt did start some shit with you?(which is what the 2nd amendment is for, because 224 years ago when the constitution was put into effect, the revolutionary war was a crazy event that recently happened and citizens needed muskets to fight the muskets of the oppressive govt and where able to defeat them) no, you still wouldnt stand a chance against their drones and tanks...and you certainly dont need them for hunting. so why does it matter? this is one of the few cases where i think the govt is doing a good thing to help keep us safer, and they're still doing a shitty job of it. wheres the arguement here? the govt is trampling your rights? your rights for what? is it a slippery slope that you think will end with every gun being taken away? do you need an automatic weapon for anything other than killing? my opinion on guns, any gun anywhere at anytime, is why? (super hippie right now) whats the point? they are just dangerous to me. i know there has always been ways to kill people, but guns just make it way to easy.

also, one of the measures i read was limiting clips to 10 rounds...really? so they just need more clips? or when the guns are used irresponsibly they just kill fewer people?
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LOL... You're right bro... Guns kill people, people don't kill people... USA, USA, USA!!!!
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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gagekko said:
Would you be more happy if they hijack planes and fly them into buildings? Oh... Wait...
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and now we take off our shoes and endure all sorts of buttfuckery because 3,000 people died 12 years ago.

but in the least year alone, way more people died by high capacity semi auto mags, and we're not asking you to take your shoes off, we just want to make sure you are not a rapist psychopath with 3 dozen restraining orders.

so your example really just worked against you.
 
Nutes and Nugs

Nutes and Nugs

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UncleBuck said:
and now we take off our shoes and endure all sorts of buttfuckery because 3,000 people died 12 years ago.

but in the least year alone, way more people died by high capacity semi auto mags, and we're not asking you to take your shoes off, we just want to make sure you are not a rapist psychopath with 3 dozen restraining orders.

so your example really just worked against you.
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Nearly 3000 died in the 9-11 tragedy but I'm not so sure "way many people died by semi auto mags"

Found this page interesting.
prescription drug od's beat gun deaths and abortion was the winning cause of death.

http://www.romans322.com/daily-death-rate-statistics.php
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Nutes and Nugs said:
Nearly 3000 died in the 9-11 tragedy but I'm not so sure "way many people died by semi auto mags"

Found this page interesting.
prescription drug od's beat gun deaths and abortion was the winning cause of death.

http://www.romans322.com/daily-death-rate-statistics.php
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lol, abortion beats out smoking related deaths.

only in a right winger's wet dream.

not even gonna check out what shitty, retarded info is on that obviously moronic link.
 
timlang420

timlang420

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gagekko said:
LOL... You're right bro... Guns kill people, people don't kill people... USA, USA, USA!!!!
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what i said was guns are stupid and serve no purpose anymore. hundreds of years ago the playing field was closer to even and, like we did, it was possible to fight for your independence. guns were a useful tool to hunt with...hundreds of years ago too. now, however, who the fuck hunts for the food they eat, with a gun? if your in a military conflict with the govt then your fucked before you start. so my question is why guns? for recreational purposes? hunting for sport...why the fuck do you need an auto or semi automatic weapon for that? or a hand gun? i can just imagine some dude creeping up on a deer with like an oozie and just swiss cheesing that deer, or a dirty harry .44 mag and blowing chunks out of it. guns serve no purpose other than endangering everyone.

gagekko said:
Would you be more happy if they hijack planes and fly them into buildings? Oh... Wait...
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happier > more happy

UncleBuck said:
why do people choose semi automatics with high capacity mags so often when they kill people?
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because they kill people quicker and easier. i know you get that but how is there an argument here? nobodys trying to take away the guns, just make it very difficult (yeah right) to get one. responsible gun owners should have no problem with this.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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timlang420 said:
what i said was guns are stupid and serve no purpose anymore.
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not true.

timlang420 said:
because they kill people quicker and easier. i know you get that but how is there an argument here? nobodys trying to take away the guns, just make it very difficult (yeah right) to get one. responsible gun owners should have no problem with this.
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it's not an argument, i am just driving home the point that certain guns are military grade, while others are better suited towards civilian purposes (self defense, hunting).
 
timlang420

timlang420

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gagekko said:
LOL... You're right bro... Guns kill people, people don't kill people... USA, USA, USA!!!!
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people who are going to kill people are probably gonna do it (although the argument can be made that if such an easy and available tool like a gun wasnt so easy to use and get, then many deaths would be avoided). those people are going to use the easiest method to do so, which in most cases are guns. you think 27 people would have died if the dude in newtown had to use a machette? now because of boston, the response will be "he could have used a bomb", yeah ill take my chances that a 20yr old kid is gonna blow himself up on the way to the school, rather than let him carry a bushmaster rifle. the point is crazy people kill people, and a gun is the easiest, most glorified (movies, tv, video games etc) method. please dont speak for me or put words in my mouth.
 
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