Would you classify US drone strikes as terrorism? Why/why not?

Harrekin

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isnt it funny that the only non govt. or military flights in the air for 3 days after the 911 attacks were dedicated to evacuating bin laden family members from the country.
In fairness tho, you wouldn't want to be blamed for something your crazy uncle did.
 

mudminer

Active Member
In fairness tho, you wouldn't want to be blamed for something your crazy uncle did.
if thats the case your correct. but i wouldnt be reluctant to say that they werent even questioned about it. i would also say that there are "detainees" in gitmo and worse places to this day that are far "less guilty" than some of those family members who were spiritted away due to ties with the bush fam.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
isnt it funny that the only non govt. or military flights in the air for 3 days after the 911 attacks were dedicated to evacuating bin laden family members from the country.
Jack Cloonan from Alec Station joint cia/fbi operation aka Bin Laden Unit... wasn't allowed to even interview the passengers on those outbound flights. We're talking an interview not an interrogation.

9/11 also claimed the life of FBI veteran John o'niell - he took the job as head of WTC security and started on the morning of 9/11.

He worked with Cloonan at Alec Station and also the lead agent on the cole bombing and at every turn was thwarted by Barbara Bodines office in uncovering the true culprits and the source of the funding.

He took over from Marvin P Bush' (yes potus' brother) and a company called securacom who held the contract for WTC and American Airlines security up unitl 9/11...

Nah no coincidence there...
 

kushhound187

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isnt it funny that the only non govt. or military flights in the air for 3 days after the 911 attacks were dedicated to evacuating bin laden family members from the country.
i would perotect my friends from a angry mob, if the mob was coming to harm them for something tgeir idiot kid did.

the bin ladens are construction tycoons. one dumbass ruins the whole family name.

and remember im jewish. Im not sticking up for arabs. im objectivly looking at it. Unbias. its not they fault their kids are fucked in the head. its this world in general
 

Harrekin

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i would perotect my friends from a angry mob, if the mob was coming to harm them for something tgeir idiot kid did.

the bin ladens are construction tycoons. one dumbass ruins the whole family name.

and remember im jewish. Im not sticking up for arabs. im objectivly looking at it. Unbias. its not they fault their kids are fucked in the head. its this world in general
How's your sneeky gold stockpile this afternoon?
 

mudminer

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i would perotect my friends from a angry mob, if the mob was coming to harm them for something tgeir idiot kid did.the bin ladens are construction tycoons. one dumbass ruins the whole family name.and remember im jewish. Im not sticking up for arabs. im objectivly looking at it. Unbias. its not they fault their kids are fucked in the head. its this world in general
regardless of what the bin laden fam may or may not have known (cuz we will never really know now, will we) i feel like it was wrong to just give them a free pass without even being questioned. my post was really more about the conduct of duhhhbya in the face of an incredible tragedy. friends or not.
 

kushhound187

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How's your sneeky gold stockpile this afternoon?
Feck off. im half irish too. im not some sneeky shyster! im like a wierd mix. im jewish in my religious belief, however culturally and physically, im more irish.

dont think i dont know where eire is buddy. that big pretty green island!! ive only gone once, but had the greatest time.
I was met with disaproval tho, for being half jewish. Many irish dont trust us. but after a few beers, everyone realizise im
No different, other than i have "a funny little hat" and i dont eat the same food as everyone else.

most look past the fact i dont eat mussels and pork. and after they get past that, they find im no different.


stereotypes are only right about 10-50% of the time. You saying im sneeky and hoard money would be like saying all irish or drunks or blacks are all thieves. i can tell you for sure, only half of my dads side of the family is drunks. and i personally know several blacks who i would trust in my house, my car, or near any of my property without question. they have colledge, and have no criminal record.

but you are right, about bein blamed for the crazy uncle.
 

kushhound187

Active Member
regardless of what the bin laden fam may or may not have known (cuz we will never really know now, will we) i feel like it was wrong to just give them a free pass without even being questioned. my post was really more about the conduct of duhhhbya in the face of an incredible tragedy. friends or not.
And i know it looks bad. but its one of the few things i wouldnt morrally challenge bush on.
i personally hate bush tho. his war on the arabs (theres no war on terror, fighting the arabs gives them excuses to commit these crimes, altho if you back a desperate, uneducated group of people into a corner and try to change their minds, what do you expect). is the cause of the global financial crisis. by wasting trillions of dollars, they destabilized the american economy. hurting everywhere

and im not calling all arabs ignorant. i have a few muslim/arab friends. the uneducated people i speak of are these terorists.

that said, im still not a total fan of arabs. thier treatment of women is my biggest issue. but i love women like nothing else in this world. i love em i love em i love em! anyone who hurts ladys should go kill themselves without delay!!!
 

Harrekin

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Feck off. im half irish too. im not some sneeky shyster! im like a wierd mix. im jewish in my religious belief, however culturally and physically, im more irish.

dont think i dont know where eire is buddy. that big pretty green island!! ive only gone once, but had the greatest time.
I was met with disaproval tho, for being half jewish. Many irish dont trust us. but after a few beers, everyone realizise im
No different, other than i have "a funny little hat" and i dont eat the same food as everyone else.

most look past the fact i dont eat mussels and pork. and after they get past that, they find im no different.


stereotypes are only right about 10-50% of the time. You saying im sneeky and hoard money would be like saying all irish or drunks or blacks are all thieves. i can tell you for sure, only half of my dads side of the family is drunks. and i personally know several blacks who i would trust in my house, my car, or near any of my property without question. they have colledge, and have no criminal record.

but you are right, about bein blamed for the crazy uncle.
If this is true, does it make the rest true?

Racist.
 

Doer

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If the cheap bastards on the ground had donated more to their campaigns. the politicians would have been able to hear them.
So the soldiers in Blackhawk Down should have donated to politicians that won't throw them away? There are no such politicians. If you believe that you are believing lies.

But, speaking of a dangerous Job, I have a feeling that Les Aspin had more than a heart attack over that fail.
 

Rob Roy

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Saudi Arabia & Pakistan ARE the real state sponsors of terror. It's time to fuck the house of saud - shotgun style.
I wonder how much money and weapons support their dictators have gotten from the USA?

The state, ANY state, is capable of sponsoring terror. It's part of the playbook all governments use.
 

Harrekin

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I wonder how much money and weapons support their dictators have gotten from the USA?

The state, ANY state, is capable of sponsoring terror. It's part of the playbook all governments use.
The Saudi Arabian Airforce consists mostly of American planes...

That should partially answer your question.
 

Padawanbater2

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Essentially bribes to use bases/airspace

I wonder what the cost would be if you totalled all of the other allies we do the same thing with..
 

NoDrama

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Look people, of course drones are terrorism. First of all, all of the victims are only ACCUSED of being bad people. Right now in this country about 5% of all death row inmates are later found to be INNOCENT. They had the process fo evidence, juries , cross examinations, lawyers and judges, yet still 5% are later found to be innocent.

Just how wrong do you think a few egg heads in Washington are going to be? 20% wrong, 50% wrong?

The Guardian observes: "A report by the law schools at Stanford and New York universities suggests that during the first three years of [Obama's] time in office, the 259 strikes for which he is ultimately responsible killed between 297-569 civilians, of whom at least 64 were children."

HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE

'Extrajudicial Killing' does not mean extra judges were brought in, it means killings that are ABOVE THE LAW. When government murders they have to come up with a new euphemism, murder just doesn't make them look good. Other people call this same thing Terrorism.
 

OGEvilgenius

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I remember when Al Qaeda missed their targets and ended up killing 3000 innocent people at the world trade center
They never apologized or made reperations for that
Obviously two wrongs make a right. My mom was a stupid bitch, clearly. Lead us on the path to moral righteousness J.. er Cheesus.
 

Harrekin

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Nice way to mentally justify and avoid any and all responsibility for murdering children.
"Oh look, a towel head is trying to break into my house...FUCK OFF TOWEL..." BOOOM!

Hellfired to bits.

Did that dude that was clearly opposing the terrorist deserve to be droned? Will his family now be more or less sympathetic to the US cause?
 

OGEvilgenius

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Fuck you families and local townspeople human shields, but yet you suck illegal dick when they come here to rape, murder, abuse our medical marijuana for cartels making money instead of those in need, get free medical without ruining their credit like I do, and protest waving Mexico's piece of shit flag.

You're fucked in the head.
He's an emotional and illogical windbag.
 
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