Why does it hurt you lol!!!!!, what is so important in this world that this would hurt you, just wait until you lose a loved one, that is true pain. I am a scientist as well, and no it means the exact same, the universe as it is and not as we imagine it to be, just open your eyes, he found truth and that destoyed his beliefs, I do not have any beliefs, my eyes are wide open, and I really could care less if you or anyone else should consider what I see
Ego, you kept it to a minimum, you are already enlightened, you do not need my help
So... are you telling us the truth? That you don't know what happens when we die? That you aren't sure if we continue to exist in an afterlife or cease to be? Because if you are, that's a pretty big step.
Its just as egotistical to claim that its impossible to know these things that you find so silly, then try to force others to accept this core belief of yours...
Exactly my point, thank you very much Beef
I agree 100%, I am, I exist, that is the only thing I am absolutely certain of, I always feel like saying "strictly my opinion" before I say anything but that would get pretty annoying, even to myself. For everything else I must trust my Intuition to tell me what is true, what is right and wrong, and I do, absolutely, I wouldn't be able to function without it, I know that you are Aware just as I am, I just Know, even though it is a possibility that you are not, I just Know you are, I was born with that knowledge. We may never be able to prove the Theory of Relativity, but it makes absolute sense to me, and that is good enough, no God, no Supreme Being at all, it is hard to explain my opinion when it is not derived from the usual context of what God and Spirituality is, some people do understand quite clearly, some people trust there own opinions more than mine, and I have no problem with that whatsoever, it is not my responsibility to change your mind, I am simply offering my view of things, perhaps you would call that a belief, there you go, I have beliefs, I will still call them opinions, I prefer the universe as it is and not as I want it to be.
I can understand how it would come off as egocentric and conceited, but I am not forcing anything on you, I am simply giving you my opinion, you are always free to think for yourself, but if not for the millions that came before us, we would be thinking like mokeys, and I have been enlightened and humbled by many of the responses I have read. Ego is conceited, when someone does not respect your opinions just bc they are not the same as yours, it is a natural reaction to not respect their either, and that is why the ego is so counter productive in philosophy. When the Johavas Witness' come to my door I always talk to them for a good half hour about their beliefs, I know that they have a rock hard shell against any oposition, so I don't even bother, when they say that the world is getting worse and worse and these are the end times, I always feel like saying when was the last time you heard of someone being nailed to a stick, when was the last time you heard of people being thrown into the Coleseum to be torn apart by lions and gladiators, I actually have to remind them that according to their own beliefs Armageddon is not actually the end of the world. I can understand their position, there is still a ton of evil taking place in the world, perhaps evil is rising and this is only the beginning, but in my "opinion", completly uncertain and not "believing" in that which I can not be certain of, Armageddon is a necessary evil, a very necessary evil, blessed are the meek for they shall inherit this Earth, strictly my opinion. My opinions do change, I am open to change, I can accept uncertaintity, but that does not mean I will change my opinion everytime I hear another one, and neither should anybody, that is not egocentric or conceited.
I understand your position, and as I believe Nietzsche mentioned earlier in the thread, "there is a big difference between a theory and an ascertaining of Truth", and it is a theory, but one that makes absolute sense to me. It is derived from Intuition, just as Calculus is derived from Intuition, anyone who knows Calculus knows how important recognizing the counter-intuitive and finding the Intuitive is, it has to make absolute sense in order to be taken as a fact. But as mentioned by beefbisquit certainity in science does not exist, only a probability, my theory can not possibly be proven, but I am absolutely certain of what I see with my own eyes, just as I know that the book will fall, so to do I know that this is Paradise.
Do you know how easy it is to deceive the eyes? Incredibly.
Cool ideas and opinions, bro.
Never assume too much, a very important piece of Wisdom, as I said I can accept uncertainty, I do not need to know the absolute Truth, but I can still have opinions on it. It could be a computer simulation, a dream, it is all calculated to perfection, the "clockwork universe", my opinion, the "Devil", "Satan", "Lucifer", is a personification for the human Ego, but do not be decieved, it is everything you were told it was, it is the master of deception, the bringer of darkness and evil into this world, all things evil in this world come forth from the human Ego.
I do not believe it because it is comforting, not at all, it is Intuitive, I wrote a book a few years ago, and it started with the question, what is Truth?, it ended 300 pages later with an answer, but the answer is only the conclusion, the Intuitive, the Truth is in the 300 pages, but that is not necessary for all, but it has nothing to do with what I want to believe, but what Intuition tells me, it has an entire chapter "Of Space and Time" devoted to Physics, it is about the Truth and nothing but the Truth, that was my only concern. Anything can be wrong, there are so many possibilities that you can not possibly be certain of what is true, but deep down we Know what is Truth, just as we know that the book will fall, so too do we know what is True and what is False, the thing is we like to defeat our Intuition with what we want to be true.
You nailed it right on the head, Spiritual Intuition.
It is admirable, and I have seen this in many people, and that is the freedom of choice, but I must add that I do not want to hold my opinions as Truth, they are most certainly uncertain.
Time is an illusion but the Earth is very Real, that is the only ultimate Reality to me, but I must say, it is Paradise.
Genius, without evolving our cetainties, beliefs become prejudices or superstitions, true genius, what seems like common sense is exactly what we have often forgotten, it is common sense that we must remember.
Here is a very deep Truth from Gautama the Buddha, "One has not attained Enlightenment until they realize that everything is an illusion", but if the illusion is Paradise, that is plenty good enough for me, these words are only pointers to a much deeper Truth, "The finger pointing at the moon is not the moon" Buddhism, when asked what is Enlightenment, all Siddhartha could reply is, "the end of suffering". It is a simulatation, but it is the only Reality, a very deep Paradox, calculated to perfection, the entire universe is just Space bending in on itself and creating the illusion of Time(form, Energy, motion).