is this a hermie?

SS68396331

SS68396331

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brotherjericho said:
Unless you just have some unstable strains or you've stressed them all, I doubt you have as many hermies as you state. Again, look for the sac at the end of a stalk for a male flower. The female flower will not have this stalk and will put out a pistil. See you other thread for the pics I posted of male flowers on a hermied plant.
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And as brother J has stated if its a sac at the end of a stalk..It is male flower. good point.
 
brodietheconeking

brodietheconeking

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brotherjericho said:
Unless you just have some unstable strains or you've stressed them all, I doubt you have as many hermies as you state. Again, look for the sac at the end of a stalk for a male flower. The female flower will not have this stalk and will put out a pistil. See you other thread for the pics I posted of male flowers on a hermied plant.
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so if theres a stalk withasac on the end=hermie/male and just a sac on its own with no stem/stalk is female?

rep to you both for help
 
brotherjericho

brotherjericho

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brodietheconeking said:
so if theres a stalk withasac on the end=hermie/male and just a sac on its own with no stem/stalk is female?

rep to you both for help
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Pretty much, though sometimes you have to look closely to see if there is a stalk, they can be fairly short. If the "sac" is flush with the stem, it is likely not male and should push out at least one pistil.
 
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sparrowhawk85

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brotherjericho said:
sometimes you have to look closely to see if there is a stalk, they can be fairly short. If the "sac" is flush with the stem, it is likely not male and should push out at least one pistil.
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This is good info. I really wonder how much time you should wait to see a pistil, since other pistils appear before the sac even is visible. I gather if they become Banana shaped before the pistil(s) pops out, then they are getting ready to burst/pollinate and that's not desirable. . . edit.. although I could easily be confused.

a nice little pic I found.. hope it's ok to post ..editedit(the other diagram SS68396331 posted on the 2cd page is also very good.

 
brodietheconeking

brodietheconeking

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brotherjericho said:
Pretty much, though sometimes you have to look closely to see if there is a stalk, they can be fairly short. If the "sac" is flush with the stem, it is likely not male and should push out at least one pistil.
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so the one i posted on this thread is hermie?or can you not tell,cant have a look for a stem atm babys asleep
 
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sparrowhawk85

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some good news for us; but it's still not guaranteed.


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Figure 6. A: Pistillate female flower (stigmas, style, perigonal bract and stipule), B: spike, C: inflorescence, D: formed perigonal bract, E: hard seed.​
On dioecious female plants, the appearance of the first perigonal bracts with no styles indicates that the female inflorescences will soon flower (code 2200). The inflorescence of female plants is leafy and compact. The female flower is hidden within the perigonal bract and is small, green and inconspicuous. At anthesis (pollen release) two styles protrude from each perigonal bract (Figure 6. A). One female plant has numerous flowers in different developmental stages (Figures 6. B-C). We define the beginning of female flower formation (code 2201) as when the first styles are visible, and the peak of this flowering stage is reached when about 50% of the bracts within the inflorescence are formed, independent of whether styles are visible or not (code 2202; Figures 6. A, D)

"Decimal code for growth stages of hemp (Cannabis sativa L.)". Vito Mediavilla[SUP]1[/SUP], Manuel Jonquera[SUP]1[/SUP], Ingrid Schmid-Slembrouck[SUP]2[/SUP] and Alberto Soldati[SUP]2[/SUP], Swiss Federal Research Station for Agroecology and Agriculture.
 
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sparrowhawk85

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IOW

[SIZE=-1]Dioecious Plant [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]male[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2100[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Flower formation[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]First closed staminate flowers[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2101[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Beginning of flowering[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]First opened staminate flowers[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2102[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Flowering[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]50% opened staminate flowers[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2103[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]End of flowering[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]95% of staminate flowers open or withered[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]female[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2200[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Flower formation[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]First pistillate flowers
Bract with no styles[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2201[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Beginning of flowering[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Styles on first female flowers[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2202[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Flowering[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]50% of bracts formed[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2203[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Beginning of see maturity[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]First seeds hard[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2204[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Seed maturity[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]50% of seeds hard[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2205[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]End of seed maturity[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]95% of seeds hard or shattered[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Monoecious Plant [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2300[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Female flower formation[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]First pistillate flowers
Perigonal bracts with no styles[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2301[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Beginning of female flowering[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]First styles visible[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2302[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Female flowering[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]50% of bracts formed[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2303[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Male flower formation[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]First closed staminate flowers[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2304[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Male flowering[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Most staminate flowers open[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2305[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Beginning of seed maturity[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]First seeds hard[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2306[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Seed maturity[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]50% of seed hard[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2307[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]End of seed maturity[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]95% of seeds hard or shattered[/SIZE]

"Decimal code for growth stages of hemp (Cannabis sativa L.)". Vito Mediavilla[SUP]1[/SUP], Manuel Jonquera[SUP]1[/SUP], Ingrid Schmid-Slembrouck[SUP]2[/SUP] and Alberto Soldati[SUP]2[/SUP], Swiss Federal Research Station for Agroecology and Agriculture.
 
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sparrowhawk85

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blah blah blah.. so the Swiss Federal Research Station for Agroecology and Agriculture says that "..On monoecious plants...Male flowers usually appear during female bloom, on the tips of female branches." .. usually. okay going back to my book.HAHA.
 
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