My magic recipe
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Bloombastic looks good as far as N/P/K goes.. have to mix with a base as he directed.. see info here http://agr.wa.gov/pestfert/fertilizers/FertDB/prodinfo.aspx?pname=5551
found 325ml on ebay for $72, seems to be the best price I've found for it.
Right now I'm using the Fox Farms trio (Tiger bloom, big bloom, grow big) and will see how that works out before changing...
found 325ml on ebay for $72, seems to be the best price I've found for it.
Right now I'm using the Fox Farms trio (Tiger bloom, big bloom, grow big) and will see how that works out before changing...
Zig No Zag
Active Member
Where do I get bushmaster? And, that other stuff you were referring to. Im new at this...I need all the help I can get. I am growing outside though. Will that make a difference?
roseypeach
Well-Known Member
Bushmaster is a Fox Farms product and you can get it at their website foxfarmfertilizer dot com
Maphyr
Active Member
Could you run this by me 1 more time, in English please?Been working at a hydroponic shop for a while now. I discovered a great product called Bloombastic. Its made by the bcuzz people (atami). This shit blows everything else I have seen out the water. Its expensive as hell but its well worth it. It has everything in it. You pretty much only use it with a base. It has doubled nearly tripled my harvest. I use Envy a+b as my base during veg. I start Bushmaster right before flower. Then the 7th day of flower add 2ml per gallon of Bloombastic until week 4. Then add 4ml per gal until flush time. I always use AN Scorpion juice during entire flower stage and finish up with a good carb like sweet or banana mana for a stronger taste. Ill break it down a little...
5 simple products...
Veg: Envy a+b (base)
Humbolts Bushmaster (last week of veg thru early flower)
Bloom: Envy a+b (week1-7)
advanced nutrients scorpion juice aka bud factor x (more trichromes) during entire bloom
Bloombastic 2ml 7th day till 4th week. 4th week 4ml per gal till flush time
Sweet after 4th or 5th week till finish.
Try this shit and tell me about it. Or even better... send me some product
NeWcS
Well-Known Member
Its English! What are you talking about?Could you run this by me 1 more time, in English please?
Uncle Ben
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And I'm going to C/P what's being discussed in another forum which is the finish of a side by side experiment using DG 7-9-5 and 9-3-6 exclusively on 2 clones. This is my post a few minutes ago:
Homebrewer - "In my experience, green, healthy plants at harvest are about as good as one can get, regardless of how they arrived there. "
Me - "Yep, been preaching it for years.
What your experiment really suggests is what I've been preaching for years, that high N foods for tropicals, 3-1-2, blow away the myth that "high N foods (with low P) delays and retards flower production and produces lower yields". But you just can't get thru (most) noobs' heads that its leaves that produce the flowers not some sucker punch, cannabis specific bloom food.
UB"
Homebrewer - "In my experience, green, healthy plants at harvest are about as good as one can get, regardless of how they arrived there. "
Me - "Yep, been preaching it for years.
What your experiment really suggests is what I've been preaching for years, that high N foods for tropicals, 3-1-2, blow away the myth that "high N foods (with low P) delays and retards flower production and produces lower yields". But you just can't get thru (most) noobs' heads that its leaves that produce the flowers not some sucker punch, cannabis specific bloom food.
UB"
HeartlandHank
Well-Known Member
I'de like to see that quite a bit. Please do c/p that. I had some issues with the Foliage Pro in flower. That might clear up if it was a grower mistake or if FPro is not great for flower.
Uncle Ben
Well-Known Member
I did. If you want to see more you need to ask Homebrewer who has the same but limited thread here.
patlpp
New Member
looking at the specs, seems like Envy blows the doors off Dyna-gro. 1.5 tsp/gal delivers N:178 ppm, P: 52 , K:181 compared to DynaGro @ 2tsp/gal N:185, P:104, K:109
Envy also has 5% Calcium and 1% Mag. Dyna 1% Cal, .5% so no need for a cal/mag sup. Sulfur content is 1% in Envy. Dyna .05%. Ammoniacal N is much less in Envy also, only about 10% of total N.
So in a nutshell you get all of dyna-gro (including the guaranteed micro's) plus no need for cal/mag or mag-pro and is 25% more concentrated without all that P, and sells for 43$ a gallon !!! Dyna, I think you have met your match.
I'm trying her out ASAP. SPECS Vendor
Now for Bushmaster and Atami: I spit on your bottles. May a thousand fleas nest in the crotch of all the hydro shop salesmen who pitch this stuff!
Envy also has 5% Calcium and 1% Mag. Dyna 1% Cal, .5% so no need for a cal/mag sup. Sulfur content is 1% in Envy. Dyna .05%. Ammoniacal N is much less in Envy also, only about 10% of total N.
So in a nutshell you get all of dyna-gro (including the guaranteed micro's) plus no need for cal/mag or mag-pro and is 25% more concentrated without all that P, and sells for 43$ a gallon !!! Dyna, I think you have met your match.
I'm trying her out ASAP. SPECS Vendor
Now for Bushmaster and Atami: I spit on your bottles. May a thousand fleas nest in the crotch of all the hydro shop salesmen who pitch this stuff!
perdrick l. hapley
Active Member
^ maybe a little high on the K for me, but the cal/mag levels in the Envy are nice. not a bad choice
Uncle Ben
Well-Known Member
Actually, DG has all 16 elements, in a proper ratio..... one part solution for 1/4 quarter the price of your rocket fuel. At a rate of 1/4 to 1/2 tsp./gal., one quart costing $14 will last you forever.
So you think because your Envy has more Ca or S that that makes it a better product? You just done locked out 3 important elements plus the K is way too high, as usual with these shitheads that don't know plant nutrition. http://www.totalgro.com/concepts.htm
Enjoy,
UB
HeartlandHank
Well-Known Member
Are you talking about the Envy 2 part? If so... isn't that 1.5 + 1.5... so 3 tsp actually? I know you have a beef with Dyna.
I notice whenever you compare anything to Dyna you sort of put a spin on numbers.
You don't need cal mag with Dyna. The increased cal and mag in Envy would lead me to believe it is made for RO water. So if you use RO water, cool. I know Homebrewer uses Dyna, no cal mag, with RO water. With Dyna and Tap water, you would not want to use Cal Mag. Envy with tap would be excessive cal and mag, I would think. (Think GH Flora Micro Regular vs Tap.. Envy has the reg (RO) levels, Dyna has the tap levels of cal and mag.
It looks like the retail price on Envy (per gallon) is $60.. the same as Dyna Gro. You need to buy 2 envy, but still, 60 per gal
Looks like it comes out to 9-6-11. I'de like to hear about it if you give it a try. I've seen the stuff before. If my 1.5 + 1.5 thing is true though that would mean it is weaker than Dyna not 25% stronger.
What is it you hate so bad about Dyna that makes you want to play with the numbers? I've called you out on your numbers before. I'm not calling you a liar, but, you know, you can spin a # anyway you want with the right words or a simple mistake. (3 equals 1.5...)
Possibly I'm wrong and there is an Envy 1 part, or, you are talking about .75tsp A + .75tsp B = 1.5 tsp Envy. If so, those are some damn potent nutrients. And, I apologize for jumping to conclusions.
Uncle Ben
Well-Known Member
The shitheads referred to are the manufacturers who you think are so fine. Now, answer the questions.
I don't know where you're getting your numbers or really what they mean. Bottom line is DG Foliage Pro produces excellent results from start to finish when used exclusively - no supplements or additives needed. The maintenance rate is only 1/4 tsp/gal. which means a quart at $14 will last you a lifetime.
RIU is about the blind leading the blind without bothering to understand what makes a plant tick, and that starts with plant nutrition.
UB
HeartlandHank
Well-Known Member
If you haven't come to expect it by now... what the hell have you been doing on here the last 3 1/2 years? haha. Don't take it personally.
RIU about a friendly debate?
... You must be confused with another site.. It's pretty all things go around here. I prefer it over getting banned for getting animated.RIU is about newbs sharing their trade secrets... UB verbally abusing them.. Toke and Talk... and everyone abusing FinShaggy (and his sister). Haha.
chuck estevez
Well-Known Member
I thought you were hooked on AN? Or are you just on a search to find something that MIGHT work better then dyna just so you can PAT yourself on the back?(pun Intended)
patlpp
New Member
I don't mean to battle you. I just brought up an alternative nutrient that may suit others better than Dyna-gro. I don't have a problem with it, I use it myself, just not all the way thru harvest.