High CBD Strains

6ohMax

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I have been to The Healing Canna and Today's Health Care, Todays Health Care has a strain called otto#1 and can't recall the other. Question is has anyone tried it? Is it really THAT GREAT for Pain management?
 

Constiello

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Tried their Otto #1, tis mega uncured. Hence the whole, "low THC high CBD"

It's not that great, hence the cheap price at $4 a gram. Honestly it was like smoking a random weed I pulled from the near by creek

I'm no expert but maybe if it were properly flushed and harvested it could be smokable, though I just don't see it becoming better

No pain relief whatso ever, n couch lock or even a buzz.
 

6ohMax

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Thats garbage dude! This is a new thing they are trying out right? Kind of like the weed of the 60 and 70s my dad said, THC was like 4-5% LOL

Im assuming the more chemistry that goes into growing this High CBD strain it should be off the charts.
 

Constiello

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I am not too certain though I do know this is a sale they started about a month ago or so.

IMO it could be buds from a bad plant in quantity. Today's Health is/was loosing business so they began the $5 gram special for both mem/non mem

It's like from that large below par harvest, they market the uncured weed as "High CBD" because the weed has not yet reached maturity, causing more CBD than THC
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
CBD does not change into thc as the plant matures, or cures. Also THC does not change into CBD.
Otto is a decent strain if grown properly, Med grew some out a while back and passed a sample my way. Def a good relaxing bud. Issue being that they are from Centennial Seed Co, who has had many issues with hermies and more or less burned a lot of bridges with growers by selling below par seeds.
 

Constiello

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I was informed CBD is more dominant than THC during bud growth and into the curing process. Chlor. turns into THC
 

Bubbagineer

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Do not expect CBD to act in the same fashion as vicodin for pain relief. Having said that, it has been more effective for my sciatic problems than any prescribed medication. IMO CBD does act as a neuroprotector (as some research has indicated).... Lyrica and Gabapentin (pharmaceuticals) also give this benefit but have shitty sideffects (vertigo). CBD also has some analgesic qualities when taken in sufficient quantity - kind of like Advil without the accompanying liver putrification. It also gives a feeling of well being when taken in sufficient quantities (50 mg of high CBD extract or so).

With CBD I have not taken any Vicodin/Percocet/Valium/Xanax/Advil/Excedrin/flexoral etc. in over 3 months (knock on wood). But that's just me man, it seems to do the trick for Bubba. Thing is you gotta take enough, which is actually kind of hard to do for a reasonable budget. If you want to know if CBD will work for you, the best med I have found to date are the CBD Priva pills at RiverRock, I take 50 to 100 mg a day as a maintenance dose.
 

TruenoAE86coupe

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No THC-A turns to THC in the curing process, but CBDs stay CBDs throughout the whole life and cure process. The "Dutch Masters" spent many years breeding the CBD out of strains, trying to increase THC, so know we are in the process of undoing the "work" they did and trying to recreate the CBD strains for medical purposes. Otto was bred with the intentions of increasing the CBDs. Harloquin is another strain that is high CBD low THC, regardless how you finish it.
 

NEEDMMASAP

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I was informed CBD is more dominant than THC during bud growth and into the curing process. Chlor. turns into THC
I have not found anything about ( Chlor. turning into THC ) but this article explains the progression cycle ? Maybe ?


http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/366981-A-quick-summary-of-trichromes-and-the-biosynthesis-of-THC

This is a portion of the article !

Capitate-stalked glands are what most people refer to as trichromes. At the bottom of these glands are various phenols and turpenes, which are precursors to cannabinoids. The "head" of the capitate-stalked gland contains the cannabinoids. Gland age and THC content are directly related (older = more THC). As the phenols and turpenes are moved up the stalk and into the "head", they are progressively biosynthesized into cannabinoids: first to CBG, then CBG > CBC AND CBG > CBD, and finally, CBD > THC. CBN, the compound which THC primarily degrades to, forms only after the plant has died. The image below shows the biosynthesis progression.


1 = CBG (cannabigerol)
2 = CBD (cannabidiol)
3 = CBC (cannabichromene)
4 = THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol)
 

NEEDMMASAP

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Do not expect CBD to act in the same fashion as vicodin for pain relief. Having said that, it has been more effective for my sciatic problems than any prescribed medication. IMO CBD does act as a neuroprotector (as some research has indicated).... Lyrica and Gabapentin (pharmaceuticals) also give this benefit but have shitty sideffects (vertigo). CBD also has some analgesic qualities when taken in sufficient quantity - kind of like Advil without the accompanying liver putrification. It also gives a feeling of well being when taken in sufficient quantities (50 mg of high CBD extract or so).

With CBD I have not taken any Vicodin/Percocet/Valium/Xanax/Advil/Excedrin/flexoral etc. in over 3 months (knock on wood). But that's just me man, it seems to do the trick for Bubba. Thing is you gotta take enough, which is actually kind of hard to do for a reasonable budget. If you want to know if CBD will work for you, the best med I have found to date are the CBD Priva pills at RiverRock, I take 50 to 100 mg a day as a maintenance dose.
Bubba , that’s good to know about the CBD Priva pills , how expensive are they ?, and what would be the process if a person were to try to make their own in a cap form ?
 

NEEDMMASAP

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No THC-A turns to THC in the curing process, but CBDs stay CBDs throughout the whole life and cure process. The "Dutch Masters" spent many years breeding the CBD out of strains, trying to increase THC, so know we are in the process of undoing the "work" they did and trying to recreate the CBD strains for medical purposes. Otto was bred with the intentions of increasing the CBDs. Harloquin is another strain that is high CBD low THC, regardless how you finish it.
Do you have the Harloquin strain in your grow ? is it a strain that can be easly found in the dispensary's in the Denver area ?
 

Bubbagineer

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Bubba , that’s good to know about the CBD Priva pills , how expensive are they ?, and what would be the process if a person were to try to make their own in a cap form ?
Truly, I would just make a tincture and skip the hassle of making caps... unless you're gonna make a pile - too much hassle. But if you really want to then, you would take some extract (BHO, bubble, RSO, etc.) and mix with an equivalent amount of coco oil (i.e. not much, just enough to dissolve the extract thoroughly). Cook at 200 - 250 for 4 to 24 hours. Let cool but not to solid. Mix oil with corn starch until like toothpaste then freeze. Take out of freezer and grind to powder - fill caps (capsule machine helps here). RR's caps are $1/10mg cap to members.
 

multipass

Active Member
Don't forget the R4, which seems to be the current king of CBD.

Greenwerkz high CBD strain, the R4, is unique. With almost no THC and 14% CBD this strain offers a truly medical value to the patient. Check out the test results for yourself, here. The RMX, which was grown from an R4 seed, tests regularly at 18% CBD as well, check out those results here here .
I've been meaning to get some seeds, as they do seem to be pretty stable.

http://www.greenwerkz.com/index.php/cbd-specialists/the-r4/
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
Do you have the Harloquin strain in your grow ? is it a strain that can be easly found in the dispensary's in the Denver area ?
I still don't have anything very high CBD in my garden, Pre-98 being probably the highest at the moment, but it is still a THC dominate strain. I am hoping my outdoor adventures of this summer will give me enough "cushion" on production to be able to add something more CBD based, not sure what i am thinking, although Harloquin has been on my thoughts for a couple years now. Otto #1 may make an appearance as i believe i can source seeds for it, and won't have to get a clone.
 

Medshed

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Based on my one grow of Otto #1 I think it has a lot of pheno variability. The strain is labelled as 10 weeks flowering time but the one I ran went around 16 weeks. It was very effective for my muscle/nerve based pain and it provided a nice calming influence with a vey slight sativa buzz. It definitely did not get you "high" in the traditional sense though.

Assuming my source for Z7 is able to recover his ailing plant enough to take cuttings I plan to grow some more Otto #1 and cross it with the Z7.

T - you know you are welcome to any seeds I have ...
 

Bubbagineer

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Don't forget the R4, which seems to be the current king of CBD.


I've been meaning to get some seeds, as they do seem to be pretty stable.


http://www.greenwerkz.com/index.php/cbd-specialists/the-r4/

I agree the R4 delivers the purest source of CBD available, but problem is, you can't get but an 1/8th till they grow more out. Once it's abundant again, then I will absolutely point folks in the R4s direction. In fact I hope to grow it out this Fall. The seeds are feminized btw.

Here's a look at my current attempt to grow me some CBD. She's showing her Indica genes too, I think the branches are going to bud out all the way back to the trunk lol...
 

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420circuit

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These are the strains that I have seen mentioned as having high CBD content:

Cannatonic
Tora Bora
Grapefruit CBDiesel
Moonshine
Lime Kush
Yummy
Blue Moon Rock
Snow Goddess (303)
R-4 (303)
White Rhino
Medi Bomb 1
Meltdown (303)

I am planning to grow out some Meltdown and R-4 as soon as my plant count allows; starting seeds in a few weeks. Looking forward to seeing Bubba's results, last progress report was very impressive, but the proof is in the dried and cured final product. Medical history is being made, here's hoping that one of these strains is a game changer.
 

Barrazaburnz

Active Member
R4 but the greenwerkz place selling it sucks. I went in the other day dude sold me some flower that should have just been used for oil. I know R4 doesn't come out super looking but this was hardly bud at all infact 1 bud and the rest straggly crap. It says online in a lot of places that its "open source" meaning free seeds and free clones for med patients. They didn't have any clones (2 weeks) and dude sold me seeds for $10 a piece. This strain in the hands of someone better would be amazing. Edit: and R4 is all CBD-a not CBD It only has 0.1%-CBD and it tested at 14-20%CBD-a http://www.greenwerkz.com/index.php/r4-cbd-program/r4-test-results/r4-2-5/ another thing the bud they tested and the bud they sell you are miles apart.....
 

multipass

Active Member
R4 but the greenwerkz place selling it sucks. I went in the other day dude sold me some flower that should have just been used for oil. I know R4 doesn't come out super looking but this was hardly bud at all infact 1 bud and the rest straggly crap. It says online in a lot of places that its "open source" meaning free seeds and free clones for med patients. They didn't have any clones (2 weeks) and dude sold me seeds for $10 a piece. This strain in the hands of someone better would be amazing. Edit: and R4 is all CBD-a not CBD It only has 0.1%-CBD and it tested at 14-20%CBD-a http://www.greenwerkz.com/index.php/r4-cbd-program/r4-test-results/r4-2-5/ another thing the bud they tested and the bud they sell you are miles apart.....
I believe the THC in strains is actually THC-a. It becomes THC when heat is applied (or slowly over time - decarb). So measuring THC-a is the same as THC (as far as we are concerned with potency).
I'd imagine thats the same with CBD and CBD-a by the same logic.

Can anyone confirm?
 

Medshed

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Do you have the Harloquin strain in your grow ? is it a strain that can be easly found in the dispensary's in the Denver area ?
I recently contacted the guy in this article. http://www.theweedblog.com/free-for-all-cannabis-delivery-project-launches-in-colorado/

He is offering free cuts of Harlequin. I'm hoping to meet up with him in the next few days to get a cut. I plan to cross it with Otto #1. He told me Harlequin has a bad track record with being crossed to other strains but it seems worth a shot.
 
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