Cann's Organic No-Till Garden

[Cann]

Time for an update...

Veg Room

chillin under the t5's



On the right side of the frame in the picture below you can see the swami plants ~ the 4 tall ones in front are BOxNL5/haze, 4 out of 5 confirmed female one male which isn't pictured. The two short plants immediately to the left are TOxBMR Bx1 - both of those confirmed female, with 1 more female not visible. So out of 10 seeds (5 BOxNL5 and 5 TOxBMR), 9 popped the surface (5 BOxNL5 and 4 TOxBMR), and 7 were female (4 BOxNL5 and 3 TOxBMR). Pretty awesome thank you swami..and thank you mother cannabis.


Nighttime shot to show the true color green



Progression of cheese quake clones - these three are in a 5 gallon smartpot on its second round...they have formed a bush visible in the middle of the second picture - looks like 1 plant. they could definitely use more space...but I wasn't initially planning on vegging them this long when I planted - will probably transplant to a 10 gallon for flower, they're going to need it. might just put the 5 gallon smartpot straight into a 10 gallon so I can preserve the no-till goodness of the 5 gallon - pre-established fungal networks/bacterial communities/mycorrhizae. sorry about how blurry the 1st pic is - shitty old camera. also the second shot is taken in the dark FWIW


Moms in closet - each of these plants is under a tiny shoplight - 54 watt CFL - you can see the shadow of one hanging in the picture. they are growing surprisingly fast/well....praying leaves and obviously very happy given the low light conditions..


Praying leaves on a TOxBMR female -


Now the flower room...

 

[kushking42]

roll up a newspaper and place it near the plants. in the morning all the earwigs should migrate there and you can dispose of them. works great.

that cantaloupe might make it... i think

edit: cannabis plants look great

 

[Cann]

that cantaloupe might make it... i think

thanks for the advice KK! i'm sending good cantaloupey vibes towards her...hoping she pulls through!

just went on a nightly pest examination (outdoors)..found 3 earwigs on some chamomile starts I planted the other day - thats it. will lay out a newspaper and also a beer trap tomorrow...the only beer I have right now is homebrew that is probably too strong for the earwigs. gonna have to get someone to run to the liquor store for me to buy shitty beer.....lol


edit: oh, and the cannabis plants...yeah...those things. they're okay

 

[Cann]

Week 8...starting to chop plants that look ready. Been spraying every 4 or 5 days with apple cider vinegar to control PM (thanks fattiemcnuggins!) - the horsetail was working but not well enough/it was costing me a fortune to spray every 2 days, not to mention it's a pain in the ass to spend that much time spraying....

We'll see if the buds taste like vinegar at all..based on the way they smell (totally dank goodness) I doubt I will be able to taste anything wrong. Fingers crossed...

Here is a poorly photostitched panorama shot of the flower tent. The two plants in front are The Flav (big plant on the left) and Fire OG (tall skinny plant on the right). Both of these plants are on their last run through..not the greatest genetics IMO:



Sourband in a 30 gallon no-till w/ two other plants - it got so heavy that it tipped over and was blocking the light of the other two...i kept tying it up and it kept tipping - time to chop. sorry about how dark the photo is.


The Flav as seen from inside the tent - has something like 10 colas all tipped over/tied up. Woody Harrelson OG (lol) hogging the shot on the left hand side of the frame - curled tips from apple cider vinegar spray.


Plushberry sharing a 45 gallon no-till - orange pistils from the apple cider vinegar spray. You can see that the other plant in the back of the smartpot is tipping over to the left pretty bad lol...damn enzyme teas make the buds too fat! a good problem to have...


Plushberry - almost done @ 8 weeks.


The Flav - Still stacking @ 8 weeks...this cut is sativa dominant for sure


You can tell that the vinegar spray fries the pistils..but doesn't seem to harm bud development too bad - maybe a tiny delay in growth. worth it for mildew free buds


time to get trimming....

really excited to have some room in the flower tent for swami's stuff! can't wait.....

 

[hyroot]

Nice. How do you like the flav? I got a 5 pack of them. 3 were male and I lost the other 2 when I remodeled the garden. Might have threw them out on accident. Thinking of getting flav again. Just got some cheesequake seeds, 5 pack. Eventually will compare to my breed cheese ( master kush x Hindu skunk x raspberry( cough columbian landrace skunk x ice) ) . Cheese originally was a retarded skunk 1 pheno.

 

[Cann]

View of plushberry from afar - I can barely fit her in the frame . Filling out nicely...

 

[Cann]

Nice. How do you like the flav? I got a 5 pack of them. 3 were male and I lost the other 2 when I remodeled the garden. Might have threw them out on accident. Thinking of getting flav again. Just got some cheesequake seeds, 5 pack. Eventually will compare to my breed cheese ( master kush x Hindu skunk x raspberry( cough columbian landrace skunk x ice) ) . Cheese originally was a retarded skunk 1 pheno.

The flav is definitely not for me...it smokes nice, but is a pain to grow (too lanky, PM magnet, long flower time, etc.). cheese quake is better IMO, as far as TGA stuff goes. really nice taste after a month or two of curing.

plushberry is one of the only keepers for my garden out of all the TGA stuff I have run...and that is only cause its purple/yields heavy in a short amount of time ~ good cash cropper.

 

[hyroot]

Thanks pm magnet is a no go for me. I might grab some plushberry seeds then . There a dispensary not to far away that has the whole tga line and some Dna genetics seeds. Your plushberry looks awesome. It looks almost like a bowl of fruity pebbles.


Have you tried freezer curing? It cures your buds twice as fast as normal cure. It preserves the flavor, taste, potency, color, consistency, etc... It sublimates the buds like freezers burn. Pulls the moisture out but not too much. Another example of sublimation, when there are stalagmites of ice sticking out of a tray of ice cubes. ed rosenthal did an article on the method. Everyone in the led section on riu including me love it.

 

[Cann]

elaborate on this por favor...i've never heard of it, and would be interested to try it out.


plushberry aint half bad if youre going with TGA. still gets PM though, so gotta be persistent about the prevention regime

 

[headtreep]

Plushberry is the only one I have left of the TGA stuff. My pheno grows like a beast and the leaves almost turn blue. No PM issues ever with RH in the 80s during monsoon season. You seem to have a nice pheno besides the pm issues.

 

[hyroot]

First : normal cure for 1 day to redistribute moisture in buds and let birp for a little bit before placing in freezers.

Freezers cure 2 methods.
1. Frost free freezers open jars no lid just chillin
2. Non frost free freezers shipping cardboard box barely open. Flap cracked open. Jars with no lids inside box.

Every other day empty buds out of jar. Let sit out for 30 min to thaw and decarboxilate (birp)

Ed uses a frost free freezers. I don't have one. Mine is non frost free. After reading the article I was looking Online for a substite ingredient in a food recipe (not soil lol). Came across a chef forum where several of the "chefs" said when they store fruits and veggies in a non frost free. They keep them in cardboard boxes. That keeps them fresh without freezers burn. So I put 2 and 2 together.....

Now the cardboard helps create an environment similar to a frost free

Through trial and error with several batches. This is the method I came up with for non frost free freezers. Fyi keeping lids on the jars will make the buds more wet. Also the thicker the cardboard the better and more the buds sublimate



Caution: let buds thaw before messing with them. Ie breaking upna bud or whatever. When frozen they are like ice and brittle and can break up into shake very quickly and easily. Be gentle. Once thawed they will go back to the consistency that they were when first placed into jar.

In the led section in beef biscuits thread we discussed it quite a bit and posted Pics there. I'm on my tablet. When I get home ill post Pics later

Credit to who had brought up this method and article on riu. I forget. It was either Puffenuf, psuagro, beef biscuit, enduroxx aka green santa, kite high, fran jan, petflora, or dawg.

 

[kushking42]

horsetail didnt really work over here either. what application rate did you use for the apple cider?

 

[Cann]

2tbs/gal apple cider vinegar w/ some soap and aloe in there as a surfactant

horsetail works if you spray that shit daily...but who's got the time for that? lol...takes me 45 minutes to spray both my flower tents - don't have time for that every day.

apple cider tends to curl the leaves a bit, but nothing too drastic. even after 3 applications my ladies seem happy - and the PM is gone

 

[jstone1633]

Cann

I scanned through this whole thing and I can't find it so Im gonna ask. Where do you get your Agsil? Do you get it online by chance? And the Ful-Power?

 

[Cann]

Custom Hydro Nutrients - Agsil 16H

Ful power I get locally, but you can order it online via BioAg's website - BioAg

 

[kushking42]

ful power i buy at @ the hydro store. forget how much a 5 gallon jug is. but its under $100. even if you cant get the owner of the store to sell it to to you @ cost (lol) you should still be able to get it considerably cheaper than directly through bioag. 2 years ago before hydrofarm made bioag readily available. i ordered from them @ full msrp.. ouch

 

[Rising Moon]

Bio-ag also makes a powdered product called CytoPlus, and I REALLY like it.

My plants respond to it very well, its cheap, easy to use, and full of available trace elements.

If you routinely add kelp to your existing humic regiment, than this product will be of interest.

 

[Cann]

TL : DR

BioAg is the shit.


I need to order more VAM Endo mix but i might go with myco grow this time..mix it up

TM-7 is another good one...humic acid + trace nutrients

 

[jstone1633]

Bio-ag also makes a powdered product called CytoPlus, and I REALLY like it.

My plants respond to it very well, its cheap, easy to use, and full of available trace elements.

If you routinely add kelp to your existing humic regiment, than this product will be of interest.

Can you explain what you mean about routinely adding kelp? Im looking at BioAg's site and it says it has seaweed in it. Is it good because you don't have to add kelp anymore or good because it works with the kelp and you can keep using it? Im just trying to figure out which to order. They all sound good. The Ful-Power isn't sounding as appealing after looking closer at the TM-7 and CytoPlus. Im not really interested in any of it for improving cloning as much as Im looking for better nutrient uptake and bigger buds.

 

[Cann]

Ful-power is nice cause its a liquid so you don't have to spend time getting it to dissolve (TM-7 can be a pain in the ass that way). Also you can foliar with ful-power because fulvic acid is small enough to penetrate the stomata - not the case with humic acid. just another benefit...

I think what RM is saying is that if you are already routinely using a humic product + kelp separately, CytoPlus is of interest because it combines the two products and simplifies things. a.k.a. you don't have to keep using kelp if you are using cytoplus routinely.