Thundercat's Groooooooow

Kite High

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The silver in no way does anything harmful to the progeny. Most use STS and if their regs are STS stable then the fems are as well. IME fems are just as potent with a higher percentage of outstanding specimens.
 

Thundercat

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I'm only interested in the regs more because it would give me a chance to catch an elite male to toy with, and because there is just more beans to work with for the same price.
 

Thundercat

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My wife did a great job and got the last of the trimming done for a few days. There is a WW drying I took down 2 days ago at about 8 weeks, but its still pretty wet. The rest of the girls are looking really great, and seem to be bulking up pretty well. I super cropped 2 plants that had reached above the reflector. Either they will turn out great like the current one I have in flower, or I will chop them. Either way I've got 4 others ready to go in, and I was thinking about flowering the SDG mom since I do have a clone of her now. I might hold off another week or 2 so I can take a couple more clones before I flower it. The seedlings are doing pretty well, some are working on their second sets of leaves! I lost one of the herijuanas, but it was kinda small from he beginning so..... All the power naps are looking nice and are working on their 3rd sets I think now. The testers are also doing well so I'm happy all around. The clones I took the other night look good as well, and aren't wilting or anything. I don't know if I mentioned it but I took a clone off the other Cindy pheno so I didn't loose it, and its got full on little buds in the clone tray, lol its gonna take a bit to reveg I'm sure.
 

Friedrice

Active Member
The silver in no way does anything harmful to the progeny. Most use STS and if their regs are STS stable then the fems are as well. IME fems are just as potent with a higher percentage of outstanding specimens.

I really respect your opinion and appreciate the time you took to reply and share knowledge. I have a decent amount of experience with "STS" , CTS or colloidal silver whichever you want to call it...
While I agree 100% with what your saying and please dont take what im saying as offensive but there is alot more to it then what you've stated. Anything with "harsh" chemicals is something I overlook. For extensive reasons... I can go into detail in a pm if you'd like...
I don't want to fight but I just gotta mention people round my parts don't mess with fems... And there is a good reason why..


in your comment you say "just a potent." while "just as potent" may reach your expectancy of top shelf, in my region it isn't the same. People are always looking for the "next best thing". This is why I stick to reg seeds or monoecious fem seeds. Just as potent means that its not for sure MORE potent. I'm looking for the "more." Reg seeds give me the opportunity to find the "alpha" of the genus. Fem seeds are for people who don't have the space to search for the alpha
 

Friedrice

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I disagree totally, I don't waste resources and space on alphas...just omegas
Just a few Lab test results of some strains I grew
http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102675987015-256/NM_MW6_11_29_12-2.pdf
http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102675987015-269/NM_SSH14_1_11_13.pdf
http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102675987015-277/NM_TW19_1_30_13.pdf
http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102675987015-308/NM_RK10_4_15_13.pdf
As I only grow fems and do all my breeding and crosses with fems, yes fems produced these test results...you can have the trouble of your Alphas...I deal with the Omega and simplicity in potency

Happy Growing
Alpha... Omega.... It's all the same brother...
By alpha I just meant the strongest pick in the bunch.
I'm not saying fem seeds have no use at all, if simplicity is more convenient for you more power to you.
They just never find their way into my grow room.
Nice studies, that's some good info it looks like, but the highest testing strain was 23%
There is jedis out here that shit on that. Pardon my language but I ran across a batch of chem dawg that tested at 31%.
MJ consistently runs 23-28% around my neck of the woods. I have to MAKE SURE I can keep up...
 

Kite High

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Not angry at all. Why should I be? I see no inference of anger in my words but if this is your perception the post is gone as you missed it completely.
 

Friedrice

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I see no inference of anger in my words but if this is your perception the post is gone as you missed it completely.

to answer this^ here's a quote...


Have a great existence.

If the info and stance you are taking is right, don't delete old posts.. Just makes you seem less credible and doesn't give people the right perspective on the conversation we had. Believe in yourself and don't backtrack. It confuses the shit out of me.

sorry for the hijack TC
 

jigfresh

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See the confusion that happens when you start deleting posts. :)

He's not changing anything. That's what was said. You are the only one changing things around.
 

simisimis

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sorry my bad, last time I was trying to find how to edit post, my browser did not show edit where I usually find it.
anyway, whats a point of pointing to the sentences. Chill guys, weekend's coming!
 

Thundercat

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Ok so I'm not sure exactly how to put this, but KEEP THIS SHIT OFF MY THREAD! I don't want random people bickering about stuff, I try to keep this a very peaceful and neutral place to chill.

We all do things differently, I've never had my gear tested but I will say that I think much of the testing is a joke. There are too many places, doing testing however they want with no validation, or guidelines. The fact that everyone and their brother is testing over 20% in the last year is very hard to believe, and when I see people posting test results on flowers over 30% I tend to call bullshit! As I can't type well due to my wrist I'm not getting into all the details of the testing, but there are several different techniques used, that are known to have inaccurate results.

I personally use both fem and regular seeds, and will continue to do so, guess what I don't care what you use, or how you want to try to "keep up with the jones" cus everyone is growing better, and you need "more" potency! Your gonna spend you growing carrier chasing those phenos man, and you'll never appreciate what you do have till its gone I've watched it happen over and over the last 7 years. The fact that you would laugh at someone else's results and say "they aren't shit" compared to what "these guys around me are growing" just shows your ignorance once again.

Puffdat, very cute video totally reminded me of a guy I know that sits around on his time off work watching cat videos.

As far as deleting posts go I wish I had MOD powers so I could just remove the last page of BS all together. I love shooting the shit with you guys, and bullshitting in here, but I really prefer to take controversies to their own threads.
 

Kite High

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Ok so I'm not sure exactly how to put this, but KEEP THIS SHIT OFF MY THREAD! I don't want random people bickering about stuff, I try to keep this a very peaceful and neutral place to chill.

We all do things differently, I've never had my gear tested but I will say that I think much of the testing is a joke. There are too many places, doing testing however they want with no validation, or guidelines. The fact that everyone and their brother is testing over 20% in the last year is very hard to believe, and when I see people posting test results on flowers over 30% I tend to call bullshit! As I can't type well due to my wrist I'm not getting into all the details of the testing, but there are several different techniques used, that are known to have inaccurate results.

I personally use both fem and regular seeds, and will continue to do so, guess what I don't care what you use, or how you want to try to "keep up with the jones" cus everyone is growing better, and you need "more" potency! Your gonna spend you growing carrier chasing those phenos man, and you'll never appreciate what you do have till its gone I've watched it happen over and over the last 7 years. The fact that you would laugh at someone else's results and say "they aren't shit" compared to what "these guys around me are growing" just shows your ignorance once again.

Puffdat, very cute video totally reminded me of a guy I know that sits around on his time off work watching cat videos.

As far as deleting posts go I wish I had MOD powers so I could just remove the last page of BS all together. I love shooting the shit with you guys, and bullshitting in here, but I really prefer to take controversies to their own threads.
TC sincere apologies. It was inferred that I was angry when I was not. Due to info I posted having been misinterpreted as such I felt it warranted removal as interpreted to not be wasted upon emotions. So IOW I cleaned it for you as my points were negated to emotional response when it was never emotional but rather factual.


Not angry at all. Why should I be? I see no inference of anger in my words but if this is your perception the post is gone as you missed it completely.
And furthermore I exemplify that if wishing someone well in their existence can be construed as anger then it is apparent who was driven by emotion. I posted facts and was only met with ridicule and feel good bigger and better than you replies. As a matter of fact I addressed the very issue of unreliable testing practices in the supposed angry post and the fact that the professional Israeli cannabis effort was just accredited with the strongest ever tested strain with a 28% rating. So I deleted it to not have others further misrepresent my words. Again sincere apologies for the confusion and clutter my friend.

Hope you are feeling well and quickly recover.
 

Friedrice

Active Member
Ok so I'm not sure exactly how to put this, but KEEP THIS SHIT OFF MY THREAD! I don't want random people bickering about stuff, I try to keep this a very peaceful and neutral place to chill.

We all do things differently, I've never had my gear tested but I will say that I think much of the testing is a joke. There are too many places, doing testing however they want with no validation, or guidelines. The fact that everyone and their brother is testing over 20% in the last year is very hard to believe, and when I see people posting test results on flowers over 30% I tend to call bullshit! As I can't type well due to my wrist I'm not getting into all the details of the testing, but there are several different techniques used, that are known to have inaccurate results.

I personally use both fem and regular seeds, and will continue to do so, guess what I don't care what you use, or how you want to try to "keep up with the jones" cus everyone is growing better, and you need "more" potency! Your gonna spend you growing carrier chasing those phenos man, and you'll never appreciate what you do have till its gone I've watched it happen over and over the last 7 years. The fact that you would laugh at someone else's results and say "they aren't shit" compared to what "these guys around me are growing" just shows your ignorance once again.

Puffdat, very cute video totally reminded me of a guy I know that sits around on his time off work watching cat videos.

As far as deleting posts go I wish I had MOD powers so I could just remove the last page of BS all together. I love shooting the shit with you guys, and bullshitting in here, but I really prefer to take controversies to their own threads.
There is a few things I have to say and then I will leave your thread.

First off,
I never meant to come across as offensive in any way, I even clarified that in my first reply to kite.
He was the one who first began to get angry and offended, then I became defensive. He replied to my post where I recommended you choose the reg seeds.
I dont feel like I was hostile in anyway except maybe the "shit on that" post...
I wasn't saying "they are shit." Which you incorrectly quoted me on...
I would smoke the hell out of 23%... Nothing bad about that, but there is people doing it bigger around my area. I don't get mine tested either... If it looks, tastes, and smells good its going to be an easy sell...
When you are speaking about specifics though, you need other ways to dictate "better" MJ. Hence talking about %'s. Even with the "shit on that" post though I was only speaking the truth...

Secondly, for someone who's "never had my gear tested" you seem rather quick as to jumping to conclusions.. Im really trying my hardest not to sound hostile, I really am calm and I know there is no need to be hostile... Its just the internet... As far as testing over 20%... Im not saying every strain out there is putting out that.. Ive loved some of the strains that i have smoked that were 15% or below... 30% is not impossible... maybe greater than 35% and I'd start asking questions... Wouldn't shoot the idea down entirely though...
There is many labs around here that do testing and to say that all of them are incorrect is just making assumptions... If those are inaccurate why is Kite's accurate?
Here is a picture of subcools seed pamphlet..

One of his strains advertises 26%... I believe 30% is definitely possible... I've never done it, but Ive seen it and I am positive someone has achieved such a feat.

Lastly... Im not saying I NEED more potency... I am always striving for it though... I said I "need to keep up" as in keeping up with the competition. Is that wrong?
I never said FEM'd seeds were bad, just don't agree with the colloidal silver aspect... I believe in monoecious fems...
I never laughed at the guy like you said...
You quoted me wrong twice.... "they aren't shit" and "these guys around me are growing"
And your calling me "ignorant"(which is an actual quote of yours) when you don't even see that....


EDIT: For saying random people... We both have come back and forth from each others threads. You make it seem like youve never heard of friedrice before..
Some mean shit your saying man... Its the internet though, so I should probably go kill myself now...


Its ok you don't care what I use, I know now and ill back of for sure.
Was only trying to help you out from the very beginning...
Good luck to you brudda:joint:

p.s. beech I dont have any objections to the posts being deleted(if that helps any):peace:
 

Thundercat

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Kite your comments were not at all what I was complaining about. They did infact have useful accurate information in them which I was glad to have be part of my thread.

Fried Beech isn't even a mod any more man. I also never said that all testing was innaccurate but rather, that some testing is known to be innaccurate. As far as talking about whats better at that level, I think the %'s a kinda a joke. At that level of quality the flavor, smell, and type of high are going to be the biggest differences. I am sorry if you felt Kite was being hostile, but its the internet its hard to know how someone is feeling from what they type. I wasn't even trying to precisely quote each thing you said, or I would have just quoted it verbatim. My point was how you tend to talk down to others, I didn't say kites testing was any more accurate then anyone elses, but 23% is still more believable then anything over 30%. I also don't doubt in the slightest that many seed companies are posting false numbers to make their strains look better. Since there is no guidelines for this, anyone can post whatever they want really.

Anyway I hadn't planned on jumping down your throat man, but I choose not to post on threads all day long because I know if I do it will only turn into a big debate or arguement. I suggest the same thing to others as well.
 
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