What is your faith and beliefs? What do you trust? Whats your spirituality? O.M.G.

tyler.durden

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It may just be My Messiah complex, but I do believe that if My ideas get in the right hands than the ideas could terraform this planet and setup a utopia for all people. I'm just trying to reach a few people that are in positions to do something about the atrocities present in the world today. Whats a better way of reaching people than through the world wide web? My goal is to make everyone very rich and optimize resources and get rid of pollution and build as many mansions as possible, whether they are on LAND, UNDERGROUND, SKYSKRAPERS, UNDERWATER, FLOATING ON THE OCEAN, UNDER THE OCEAN FLOOR OR IN SPACE!
I don't believe any of your ideas are original to you. The people of means that may implement these ideas would want finished plans to assure these technologies would work and not negatively impact our planet. What research have you done to assure these things? Any joker can have ideas, the work comes from making those plans viable, do you have schematics to implement them? If not, you're no different than any idiot on the street with an idea...
 

tyler.durden

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If a person is deemed to be Jesus by the amount of cult followers they have then go figure.

This Russian guy that claims to be Jesus has ~5,000 followers.


This Puerto Rican American guy claims to be Jesus and has thousands of followers too!
~PEACE~
Yep, no shortage of idiots in the world. If these morons have followers and you do not, what do you think that says about you?
 

Nevaeh420

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Yep, no shortage of idiots in the world. If these morons have followers and you do not, what do you think that says about you?
It says that I'm not a cult leader.

Tyler, do you have cult followers? And would you want any? What does that say about you?

Tyler, do you think Jesus was a cult leader? Lol :D

~PEACE~
 

Beefbisquit

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It says that I'm not a cult leader.

Tyler, do you have cult followers? And would you want any? What does that say about you?

Tyler, do you think Jesus was a cult leader? Lol :D

~PEACE~
What do you hope to gain by telling people that you are the son of god? What do you hope to gain by telling people your ideas? Sounds to me like you're trying to foster a following...
 

tyler.durden

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It says that I'm not a cult leader.

Tyler, do you have cult followers? And would you want any? What does that say about you?

Tyler, do you think Jesus was a cult leader? Lol :D

~PEACE~
Nothing special about me, I'm just an ordinary guy. Just like BB stated, you are constantly claiming your divinity and pointing people at your thread to gain followers, or at least believers. You've been successful at neither, so my question still remains, what does that say about you?
 

Nevaeh420

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What do you hope to gain by telling people that you are the son of god? What do you hope to gain by telling people your ideas? Sounds to me like you're trying to foster a following...
I just want to be honest and I want to be who I am.

I obviously dont have anything to gain by telling people that I AM the Son of God or My ideas (besides grief). I was hoping that someone else would learn from what I have to offer and expand on it. Yes, maybe an online following, but not in person. Also, I'm not trying to start a cult but rather an information revelation or revolution. My goal is to take My ideas and pass them on to people that will also pass it on, until a revolution breaks forth. Not a violent revolution but one of peace and to strive for a utopia of sorts. To replace these governments with an optimal one thats dictated by we, the people via our computers.

I believe I have some revolutionary concepts that should be payed attention to by astute patriots. I'm trying to rally the troops into battle against any rogue governments that opress their peoples. I could care less about religion, but we are spiritual people and I am too. I might have more to lose than to gain, claiming that I AM the Son of God, but whatever, it is what it is. I would rather follow anyways, rather than lead because its more work trying to lead. I just dont know who I should follow that has dreams and ambitions like I do.

So, I'm not trying to start a cult, but a call to war against any rogue governments that get in the way of the peoples rights. I post on the internet because I want the right person to read what I have to say and maybe they can do something about it. Of course I want people to read what I post, and if thats your definition of a following to you than I guess it might be. But dont we all post to get our post read?

I am a freedom fighter more than anything, but I do say that I AM the Son of God because I believe it to be so!

~PEACE~
 

Nevaeh420

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Nothing special about me, I'm just an ordinary guy. Just like BB stated, you are constantly claiming your divinity and pointing people at your thread to gain followers, or at least believers. You've been successful at neither, so my question still remains, what does that say about you?
It says that I too am an ordinary guy like you except I have this Messiah complex too!

~PEACE~
 

tyler.durden

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Nevaeh420 - I just want to be honest and I want to be who I am.

I obviously dont have anything to gain by telling people that I AM the Son of God or My ideas (besides grief). I was hoping that someone else would learn from what I have to offer and expand on it. Yes, maybe an online following, but not in person. Also, I'm not trying to start a cult but rather an information revelation or revolution. My goal is to take My ideas and pass them on to people that will also pass it on, until a revolution breaks forth. Not a violent revolution but one of peace and to strive for a utopia of sorts. To replace these governments with an optimal one thats dictated by we, the people via our computers.

The gain from claiming divinity is that you get to feel special without acquiring any real skills, it's simply the feeding of your ego.


I believe I have some revolutionary concepts that should be payed attention to by astute patriots. I'm trying to rally the troops into battle against any rogue governments that opress their peoples. I could care less about religion, but we are spiritual people and I am too. I might have more to lose than to gain, claiming that I AM the Son of God, but whatever, it is what it is. I would rather follow anyways, rather than lead because its more work trying to lead. I just dont know who I should follow that has dreams and ambitions like I do.

What makes you think your ideas are revolutionary, have you even googled them to see if they were around before you discovered them?


So, I'm not trying to start a cult, but a call to war against any rogue governments that get in the way of the peoples rights. I post on the internet because I want the right person to read what I have to say and maybe they can do something about it. Of course I want people to read what I post, and if thats your definition of a following to you than I guess it might be. But dont we all post to get our post read?

I am a freedom fighter more than anything, but I do say that I AM the Son of God because I believe it to be so!


~PEACE~


Why not rally against the US government's impinging on the rights of its own citizens? There are also millions of starving children in the US, why not start at home?
 

Nevaeh420

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The gain from claiming divinity is that you get to feel special without acquiring any real skills, it's simply the feeding of your ego. ?


If you want to think that than ok.



What makes you think your ideas are revolutionary, have you even googled them to see if they were around before you discovered them??
I have not googled them because I came up with the novel ideas on My own and therefore they are most likely far out there and maybe novel. Its not really a big deal to Me. I came up with most of My ideas on My own and thats what matters to Me.


Why not rally against the US government's impinging on the rights of its own citizens? There are also millions of starving children in the US, why not start at home?
When I say "rogue governments", I'm actually including the USA too because its obviously rogue, but I like to be vague when talking about overthrowing governments!

I am starting at home! I'm at home right now. If I'm making a post, Im most likely at home. I know what you mean though, I do care about americans too and not just people on a global level. But there is little to nothing I can do besides type My stance on things from My laptop! I dont have the money to get everyone out of debt or feed all the hungry people. I wish I could but My name is not Bill Gates.

So are you admitting that you're not really Christ, the son of god?
I'm admitting that I am human, and I have many flaws. I'm a person and not the best at that.

If I was NOT crazy than I would say I'm just a normal person, and I am a normal person but I have this Christ complex too. Very few seemed to believe Me when I say it so I dont bother saying it. What difference would I make if I was Christ or not? The only difference I could think of is power. I want the power so I can give it away to an ONLINE GOVERNMENT! But I have little power compared to the elites and all I can do is bitch about the worlds problems, hoping someone will hear Me. But if I had the power, I would not abuse the power I would deligate it out!

Its a big delusion for Me to think that I AM Christ but at the same time, I have seen the evidence and I believe it. But is it really a delusion or am I really Christ? Thats My problem, I actually believe that I AM the Son of God and I dont think I'm delusional but to most other people, they would say Jesus is the Christ! And Jesus is coming back, not George Manuel Oliveira.

Just be glad that you dont have a messiah complex. I dont really mind Myself because its been like this since I turned 23 years old or ~5 years now.

So NO, I'm not admitting that I'm not Christ! I still do believe with futility!

Christ loves you!

~PEACE~
 

Beefbisquit

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I'm admitting that I'm a person and not the best at that.

If I was NOT crazy that I would say I'm just a normal person, and I am a normal person

I have little power

Its a big delusion for Me I actually believe that I AM the Son of God

Just be glad that you dont have a messiah complex.

So NO, I'm not admitting that I'm not Christ! I still do believe with futility!
There.... that makes more sense 'edited'. Just have to read between the lines.
 

skuba

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Everyone gets sidetracked by all these religious leaders or wannabe Christ figures, scriptures and the like.
If you don't know about your spirit, you just don't know about it. there's no science to prove it, and not everything in the universe can be logically explained or defined.
Just because something can't be measured doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and the fact that you haven't perceived it doesn't make it nonexistent either.
The spirit is felt, not thought up.
 

Padawanbater2

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If you want to think that than ok.




I have not googled them because I came up with the novel ideas on My own and therefore they are most likely far out there and maybe novel. Its not really a big deal to Me. I came up with most of My ideas on My own and thats what matters to Me.



When I say "rogue governments", I'm actually including the USA too because its obviously rogue, but I like to be vague when talking about overthrowing governments!

I am starting at home! I'm at home right now. If I'm making a post, Im most likely at home. I know what you mean though, I do care about americans too and not just people on a global level. But there is little to nothing I can do besides type My stance on things from My laptop! I dont have the money to get everyone out of debt or feed all the hungry people. I wish I could but My name is not Bill Gates.



I'm admitting that I am human, and I have many flaws. I'm a person and not the best at that.

If I was NOT crazy than I would say I'm just a normal person, and I am a normal person but I have this Christ complex too. Very few seemed to believe Me when I say it so I dont bother saying it. What difference would I make if I was Christ or not? The only difference I could think of is power. I want the power so I can give it away to an ONLINE GOVERNMENT! But I have little power compared to the elites and all I can do is bitch about the worlds problems, hoping someone will hear Me. But if I had the power, I would not abuse the power I would deligate it out!

Its a big delusion for Me to think that I AM Christ but at the same time, I have seen the evidence and I believe it. But is it really a delusion or am I really Christ? Thats My problem, I actually believe that I AM the Son of God and I dont think I'm delusional but to most other people, they would say Jesus is the Christ! And Jesus is coming back, not George Manuel Oliveira.

Just be glad that you dont have a messiah complex. I dont really mind Myself because its been like this since I turned 23 years old or ~5 years now.

So NO, I'm not admitting that I'm not Christ! I still do believe with futility!

Christ loves you!

~PEACE~
How can you justify saying that you've seen the evidence that you're the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and you believe it when we've explicitly pointed out the flaws in your reasoning, the fact that many other people all throughout history and even today claim to be the son of God, that the idea of Christianity, and indeed all organized religion, is inconsistent with reality and that you are experiencing delusions of grandeur, are portraying narcissistic tendencies, and combined, these, with many other things you've shown that I didn't bother to mention, can and have lead to serious tragedies?
 

tyler.durden

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How can you justify saying that you've seen the evidence that you're the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and you believe it when we've explicitly pointed out the flaws in your reasoning, the fact that many other people all throughout history and even today claim to be the son of God, that the idea of Christianity, and indeed all organized religion, is inconsistent with reality and that you are experiencing delusions of grandeur, are portraying narcissistic tendencies, and combined, these, with many other things you've shown that I didn't bother to mention, can and have lead to serious tragedies?
I think this is the longest question I've ever read ;)
 

Beefbisquit

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Everyone gets sidetracked by all these religious leaders or wannabe Christ figures, scriptures and the like.
If you don't know about your spirit, you just don't know about it. there's no science to prove it, and not everything in the universe can be logically explained or defined.
Just because something can't be measured doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and the fact that you haven't perceived it doesn't make it nonexistent either.
The spirit is felt, not thought up.
Things that exist need to have physical properties. What role does the spirit play?

Perhaps a better question is; what does the spirit 'do' that we haven't already attributed to something else physical?
When do we get our spirits?
Do they magically appear into the fetus at conception?
Maybe the fetus gets a spirit after the first trimester?
At which exact point does the spirit manifest?
Do animals have spirits?
If not, at what point during evolution did we develop a spirit?

Some more questions;

Humans are wrong about so many feelings we have; someone is behind us, someone is watching us, gut feelings, etc., but we can prove that these feelings are just that; feelings. They do not have a direct correlation with reality (anymore than a statistical anomaly).

How do you know that when you're 'feeling' your soul, you're not actually incorrectly attributing the stimulation to what you want to believe?


You are correct, just because we can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist, BUT if the soul is a tangible thing, and manifests itself in reality, it is measurable to some extent. We might not know how to yet, but if it interacts with the physical reality in any way, it is measurable.

If it doesn't interact with the physical world in any way, i.e. doesn't affect our decisions, or is unable to cause causal reactions in the universe, then for all intents and purposes, it might as well be non-existent. It would certainly share all the properties with something that doesn't exist... non-detectable, doesn't affect reality, etc.

I could make the exact same argument for anything imaginary.

The universe is actually made of invisible, vibrating, pink unicorns. They're immeasurable and invisible, but if you're perceptive you can feel them. I can't teach you how to feel them, you either can or you can't.

It doesn't necessarily mean that invisible, vibrating, pink unicorns don't exist, but it certainly gives us no reason to believe they do exist. Until you can show positive evidence that spirits or souls do exist, all your doing is showing we can't disprove them; which is a piss poor reason to believe something exists, or we'd all believe in magical, vibrating, pink unicorns.
 

Beefbisquit

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UUuuuuuugghghhhh!

Didn't even notice that shit til' you pointed it out! That is one long, grammatically and structurally correct sentence if I've ever written one! Or is it!?
WAAAAAYYYYYY too many and's. LOL


How can you justify saying that you've seen the evidence that you're the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and you believe it when we've explicitly pointed out the flaws in your reasoning, the fact that many other people all throughout history and even today claim to be the son of God, that the idea of Christianity, and indeed all organized religion, is inconsistent with reality and that you are experiencing delusions of grandeur, are portraying narcissistic tendencies, and combined, these, with many other things you've shown that I didn't bother to mention, can and have lead to serious tragedies?"


How can you justify saying that you've seen the evidence that you're the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and you believe it when we've explicitly pointed out the flaws in your reasoning? The facts are; many other people all throughout history and even today claim to be the son of God; the idea of Christianity and indeed all organized religion, is inconsistent with reality; you are experiencing delusions of grandeur; and you're also portraying narcissistic tendencies. Combined, these with many other things you've shown, that I didn't bother to mention, can and have lead to serious tragedies?"

Edited, "Bisquit" style! :D
 

mindphuk

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Everyone gets sidetracked by all these religious leaders or wannabe Christ figures, scriptures and the like.
If you don't know about your spirit, you just don't know about it.
considering that spirit and similar words like soul have no single. clear, consistent meaning, it doesn't surprise me that people don't know about it/them.
there's no science to prove it, and not everything in the universe can be logically explained or defined.
There's nothing available to prove it, science or not. How do you know not everything can be logically explained? Everything should be able to be defined, otherwise it's no use even discussing it since as I point out, definitions are altered to suit the situation which renders any actual discussion about them meaningless.
Just because something can't be measured doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and the fact that you haven't perceived it doesn't make it nonexistent either.
The spirit is felt, not thought up.
If something is unmeasured, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. However, if something is unmeasurable, then it has the same effective qualities as non-existence so what's the point in positing such a thing? Anything 'felt' must be measurable. The act of feeling something is a form of measurement.
 
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