BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

[vacpurge]

the temp of the butane also relates to pressure in the tube... does that help yield?

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

Did this with a Mity-vac hand pump and a fuckin mason jar...haha...

I think I just got lucky with this strain though...

I used to HATE wax, I used to say” wax is wacks”.. Taken from Hash Cat on TC...lol

Cut in half to show the inert structure of the comb..

My electric pump fucking broke..so pissed, but having results like this with a the Mity-Vac...I can live with it.

The trick here is thin film, and repeated pull and release.

Just my experience, I've got many more pics if anybody wants to see.

 

[Twitch]

yup. the wax/honeycomb is all just a temporary illusion of solidified bubbles!!! any heat and it turns to goo/shatter. just for fun... ill heat it up again tonight, put it in a big glob in the center, and make it puff up nicely like that again. but eventually it just folds down onto itself and turns into oil again. with no heat.

where is the material coming from? i am sure you have covered this

 

[Twitch]

Did this with a Mity-vac hand pump and a fuckin mason jar...haha...

I think I just got lucky with this strain though...

I used to HATE wax, I used to say” wax is wacks”.. Taken from Hash Cat on TC...lol


Cut in half to show the inert structure of the comb..

My electric pump fucking broke..so pissed, but having results like this with a the Mity-Vac...I can live with it.


The trick here is thin film, and repeated pull and release.

Just my experience, I've got many more pics if anybody wants to see.

good looking stuff, what kind of material did you start with?
and there is lots of wax porn in this thread lol

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

Oh, more on the wax vs. Shatter

I think both concentrates are useful for different purposes, that being said, I usually like to have about equal ratios of some wax and some shatter.

I used to only use shatter, as I was convinced by other folks from TC that wax was somehow an inferior product.

I had recently made a nice amount of wax to compare to many different strains of shatter I'd made.

The wax: So damn smooth, seems to have a larger flavor profile (terpene retention)..and a classic relaxed, happy high.

The shatter: Still very flavorful, but not as pronounced as the wax, seemed to have lost some terps, and the high, while extremely effective, but a straight sleeper..I cannot hold my eyes open after consuming shatter.

And shatter, whether the strain is Sativa or Indica, it seems to knock my ass out either way.

About 5.5 gram slab of real-deal shatter..sleepy-time

And a pile of thin-film wax..can't recall the yield, like 3.5 grams...nice relaxing” happy time” high

 

[Twitch]

most recent stuff i did last night - romulan wax

 

[Twitch]

how do u make your shatter? are you winterizing it?

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

the temp of the butane also relates to pressure in the tube... does that help yield?

This is a great question bro.

The temp of the butane does have a direct relation to how fast the tane is propelled from the can, shaking the can will warm the gas, causing it to come out with more pressure, theoretically increasing yield.

However, as you have pointed out in another post somewhere, lol..
Warm tane will be more apt to change into a gas at a faster rate, leaving the increased yield compromised by the lack of cold liquid tane rushing through the material.

I used somewhat fresh whole nugs for all my runs, actually I don't really use whole nugs per se..rather I will usually break the flower down to almost individual calyx, by hand to not disturb the trichome structure.

 

[vacpurge]

those are awesome pics! keep them coming!

my material was bottom of the bag that a friend brought over.

I used some small buds of a medium grade weed last night. 20 grams and 1 can.. here a few pics.


heres another update... kinda fun. I take the oil, put it in a SS dish. heat it up just a hair, then I mix and whip the hell out of it by hand with my glass dabber.. I scrape lines the 1 way back and forth real quick, then turn it 90, and scrape lines the other way real quick.

went from this:

to this in a matter of minutes. no heat. just kept pulling:

the smaller blob is another batch I ran last night. 20g of chopped bud and 1 can of butane. it smells nice and has held its muffin so far.

 

[Twitch]

Thats why, its old. When its old there is something that breaks down, i think fadedawg knows, i think some kind of acid -dont quote me on this- but when that happens it looses its waxing ability.

 

[Twitch]

and vacpurge get an avatar i am tired of looking at nothing when i see your name

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

how do u make your shatter? are you winterizing it?

I'm going to be COMPLETELY honest on this.. I'm nearly certain shatter is so subjective to the myriad of variables held within the plant matter.

Winterizing; while the propensity of obtaining a shatter is greatly increased, it does not ensure that it can reach the brittle state of shatter.

However, I've been literally researching daily for 6 months straight. With that being said, I believe you can research producing BHO for 12 years...hell, even get a Phd in extractions...and still have to fight un-foreseen variables that will completely change your final product.

The thing I have found to be somewhat consistent concerning winterization;
When evaporating the secondary solvent, I believe 115-120° is essential to reach the brittle state of shatter.
As the specific temp is directly related to the melting point of the refined oleoresin.

Other than that...it seems to be” luck” man...

I'm stumped on it.

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

@Vac purge...

I'm curious as to your temps at the time you are extracting.

What temp is your collection dish when you hit it with the tane?

I started out my bho journey, using a pre-heated pyrex, with water right off the boil, so my plate was probably around 190°-200° when I initially blast.

I really liked the tek for a while, as it would nearly instantly vape away the liquid tane, causing this crazy foaming action as it hit my dish.

But, one of the oil-guru guys I follow, suggested I blast into room temp (ambient temp)(don't be in a room haha) dish, THEN start the heat.

Much better results now.

I hope this helps my friend..

Ps.. I know you posted this already, but bro, use a lot more parchment paper, and you'll be good, ive seen some peeps fill up the while damn chamber with parchment...like half a roll all bunched in the chamber, covering the bottom and the walls of the chamber also.

If you'd like, I'll find a picture or two of the way a couple peeps do it..just let me know.

 

[Guzias1]

Its all just MAGIC.

Looking excellent in here. Looks like we got ourselves some good contributions.

Fucking incredible job on the hand held pump. I started there . Oh boy. You da q though, never made that with that .

And vacpurge. Get an avatar puta. Maybe of a vacuum since you actually got one.
But fo real. It looks like you doing it right. If you are able to fold back to center, and watch the oil melt out nice and thick perfect circles, it seems like your oil is still stable. I'd play with 29.3-29.7 hg . And keep heat low

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

I posted this in Colorado sub-forum, but sheeitt, wanna share with y'all too,
This was one of my first runs, lol..as stated..luck seems to be a huge ” variable”
Northern Lights #5

A little closer

This was about 5& 1/2 months ago, and I'm pretty sure I have a few chips saved away..lol

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

Its all just MAGIC.

Looking excellent in here. Looks like we got ourselves some good contributions.

Fucking incredible job on the hand held pump. I started there . Oh boy. You da q though, never made that with that .

And vacpurge. Get an avatar puta. Maybe of a vacuum since you actually got one.
But fo real. It looks like you doing it right. If you are able to fold back to center, and watch the oil melt out nice and thick perfect circles, it seems like your oil is still stable. I'd play with 29.3-29.7 hg . And keep heat low

Haha, thank you, I was sooooo hoping somebody would acknowledge the difficulty of
Getting a stable honeycomb with a damn hand-pump...haha

What a work out...holy shit..

I'm pretty sure my broken pump has a warranty, I need to get that dialed back in...sooooo much easier on the hands and forearms..

 

[Twitch]

Haha, thank you, I was sooooo hoping somebody would acknowledge the difficulty of
Getting a stable honeycomb with a damn hand-pump...haha

What a work out...holy shit..

I'm pretty sure my broken pump has a warranty, I need to get that dialed back in...sooooo much easier on the hands and forearms..

popeye looking mother fucker.... lmao

 

[vacpurge]

@Vac purge...

I'm curious as to your temps at the time you are extracting.

What temp is your collection dish when you hit it with the tane?

I started out my bho journey, using a pre-heated pyrex, with water right off the boil, so my plate was probably around 190°-200° when I initially blast.

I really liked the tek for a while, as it would nearly instantly vape away the liquid tane, causing this crazy foaming action as it hit my dish.

But, one of the oil-guru guys I follow, suggested I blast into room temp (ambient temp)(don't be in a room haha) dish, THEN start the heat.

Much better results now.

I hope this helps my friend..

Ps.. I know you posted this already, but bro, use a lot more parchment paper, and you'll be good, ive seen some peeps fill up the while damn chamber with parchment...like half a roll all bunched in the chamber, covering the bottom and the walls of the chamber also.

If you'd like, I'll find a picture or two of the way a couple peeps do it..just let me know.

my dish is just room temperature. nothing fancy. and ive been using cold butane recently... I dont like any evaporating to be done until im inside... I dont like 1. being in highly explosive atmospheres when ive already been in 1 explosion, and 2. breathing in butane fumes to the point where my throat hurts and feels dry and stuff.

and yeah, ive stopped being so damn chintzy with the parchment paper. kinda. haha. id post more but im in a rush!! I missed a lot here today.

 

[vacpurge]

and vacpurge get an avatar i am tired of looking at nothing when i see your name

test test test



edit: fuck it. too much work. ill do it later! dont got time to jump through their stupid fuckin avatar hoops right now.

 

[Guzias1]

A-V-A-T-U-U-R-R-R-R

one of those days, finished with a few moments before sundown. Dico golf time :]...

2 lbs. in

hoping for some shatter bra.