newbies increase your yields with these tips

[brotherjericho]

apparently the boys wonder(plural) have been doing this to everyones threads... everywhere on this forum. my best advice to you would to look up every source iv posted for everytip and do your own research as well. and even better advice would be not to pay attention to trousers, impman, chuck estevez,or brotherjericho.

You've yet to prove a single thing I've said in this thread wrong. Not once, so leave me out of this list.

 

[*BUDS]

I agree with the first 3 points but 4--25 i think is bullshit and any new growers should NOT FOLLOW THIS GUIDE. This shit was written 40 years ago and is rediculously outdated. 2700k cfls??(wheres the hid?) molassis??? no feeding 2 weeks before harvest??? catching pests with vinegar for christs sake, ph doesnt matter and just add lime???? Pump air into your water???? . Some advice , the best way to grow is to learn hands on with trial and error, not some old hippies guide off the net.

 

[*BUDS]

apparently the boys wonder(plural) have been doing this to everyones threads... everywhere on this forum. my best advice to you would to look up every source iv posted for everytip and do your own research as well. and even better advice would be not to pay attention to trousers, impman, chuck estevez,or brotherjeraldine.

Listen here son, stop cutting and pasting bullshit off the net and argueing with growers who know what they're doing, you are miss informing people.

 

[applepoop1984]

Why do you insist on comparing tobacco farming and other outdoor food farming to growing weed. As I stated before, i use my soil for 4 months and trash it, I don't reuse it and refert it over years to worry about a heavy metal build up in my soil. YOU seem to like to skirt the real questions. Your video of some douche picking out a better farmers fruit, proves NOTHING other than that the same fruit can have different tastes when grown by different farmers. You haven't proven why you think organics taste better. Quit comparing growing weed to growing tobacco.I haven't smoked in 8 years.Discussions with you are mute, it's like talking to a wall, so again, I leave you with more dumb comparisons and your cadmium bulid up,lmfao

"Although there is generally less cadmium in tobacco than in food, the lungs absorb cadmium more efficiently than the stomach"

are you squatting again?

 

[chuck estevez]

"Although there is generally less cadmium in tobacco than in food, the lungs absorb cadmium more efficiently than the stomach"

are you squatting again?

NExt time I decide to grow something on an old farm that used synthetic nutes, ill be sure to leech the soil first, thanks for the notice

 

[applepoop1984]

Listen here son, stop cutting and pasting bullshit off the net and argueing with growers who know what they're doing, you are miss informing people.

make me. youre gonna tell me not to source my facts while claiming these paeans are seasoned growers? are studies from university's bullshit to you? I guess il take the word of the man-child that dropped out of the 8th grade over college professors.

 

[chuck estevez]

make me. youre gonna tell me not to source my facts while claiming these paeans are seasoned growers? are studies from university's bullshit to you? I guess il take the word of the man-child that dropped out of the 8th grade over college professors.

Like talking to wall, Unwilling to admit when your wrong on anything and stubborn when more than 1 person tells you your a jackass, Not 1 person has agreed with any of your BS, yet MANY have disputed it.HMMM??

 

[applepoop1984]

NExt time I decide to grow something on an old farm that used synthetic nutes, ill be sure to leech the soil first, thanks for the notice

youre missing the point. when growing in potted plants the effects are magnified. i posted a list of nutes with cadmium contamination and youv probably used a handful already.

 

[chuck estevez]

youre missing the point. when growing in potted plants the effects are magnified. i posted a list of nutes with cadmium contamination and youv probably used a handful already.

Stupid Just stupid, I already showed you from your own links you posted, that that just is nonsense, do I need to point it out again?

 

[applepoop1984]

Like talking to wall, Unwilling to admit when your wrong on anything and stubborn when more than 1 person tells you your a jackass, Not 1 person has agreed with any of your BS, yet MANY have disputed it.HMMM??

"because if your a plant, after the microbes break down the nutrients, you go ahead and uptake some heavy metals, LMFAO, applepoop, quit making shit up."
WRONG

"So smart guy, if I did get a build up in 4 months(yeah right) and I flushed(yeah right) where does this metal go? and smoking wouldn't burn heavy metals, i would have a pile of metal after taking a rip according to your theories,lol"

"Of the large number of fertilizer products evaluated, only a few have been found to have contaminants at levels high enough to be considered a potential health concern (i.e., arsenic or dioxins in some micronutrient and liming materials). Product testing by states, including Minnesota, generally has supported this conclusion."

"read the first paragraph of your own damn post, it says a BUILD UP of heavy metals can occur in soil. How can it build up if the plant is uptaking it and your flushing it out? Where does this heavy metal go, does it magically disappear??"

with all the fallacy coming out of your mouth its hard fro anyone but your lackeys to take you seriously

"Although there is generally less cadmium in tobacco than in food, the lungs absorb cadmium more efficiently than the stomach"

 

[chuck estevez]

"because if your a plant, after the microbes break down the nutrients, you go ahead and uptake some heavy metals, LMFAO, applepoop, quit making shit up."
WRONG

"So smart guy, if I did get a build up in 4 months(yeah right) and I flushed(yeah right) where does this metal go? and smoking wouldn't burn heavy metals, i would have a pile of metal after taking a rip according to your theories,lol"

"Of the large number of fertilizer products evaluated, only a few have been found to have contaminants at levels high enough to be considered a potential health concern (i.e., arsenic or dioxins in some micronutrient and liming materials). Product testing by states, including Minnesota, generally has supported this conclusion."

"read the first paragraph of your own damn post, it says a BUILD UP of heavy metals can occur in soil. How can it build up if the plant is uptaking it and your flushing it out? Where does this heavy metal go, does it magically disappear??"

with all the fallacy coming out of your mouth its hard fro anyone but your lackeys to take you seriously

"Although there is generally less cadmium in tobacco than in food, the lungs absorb cadmium more efficiently than the stomach"

I'm done with you forest gump, you are so clueless. Good luck Donkey.

 

[applepoop1984]

I'm done with you forest gump, you are so clueless. Good luck Donkey.

you spelled forrest wrong. i expected trousers to jump all over you. unless of course you are trousers... and a few others. oh and another thing:


http://pedology.ac.affrc.go.jp/speci...F/01_Grant.pdf


http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/e...es/metals.html


http://njaes.rutgers.edu/pubs/soilprofile/sp-v16.pdf


http://fses.oregonstate.edu/node/127



"Cadmium is a common impurity in phosphatic fertilizers and may contribute to soil Cd accumulation. Changes in total and bioavailable Cd burdens to agricultural soils and the potential for plant Cd accumulation resulting from fertilizer input was investigated. Three year field studies were conducted using three dose levels of cadmium-rich, commercial, phosphate fertilizers applied at four agricultural sites. Labile Cd concentrations, measured using the passive sampling device Diffusive Gradients in Thin Films (Cd(DGT)), increased with increasing fertilizer application rates. Cd also accumulated in the edible portion of wheat and potato crops grown at the sites, and showed strong positive dose response with fertilizer treatment"




http://leon.ifas.ufl.edu/News_Columns/2008/022808g.pdf
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/cv263

http://www.who.int/ifcs/documents/fo...mr_cadmium.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1586467
http://quitsmoking.about.com/od/chem.../p/cadmium.htm
http://www.cpcb.nic.in/upload/Newsletters/Newsletters_61_CADMIUM-An EnvironmentToxicant-March-2007.pdf



AND NOW A LIST OF ALL THE FERTILIZERS THAT CONTAIN CADMIUM!!!

http://agr.wa.gov/pestfert/fertilizers/docs/rptFertHMWebCurrent.pdf

 

[applepoop1984]

Dumbass, still talking about farms using nutes over years, not 4 months with a weed plant.

what about this?

"Eva Nylund. 2003. Cadmium uptake in willow (Salix viminalis L.) and spring wheat
(Triticum aestivum L.) in relation to plant growth and Cd concentration in soil solution.
Swedish University of Agriculture Sciences. Department of Soil Sciences.
The cadmium (Cd) concentration in agricultural soils has increased during the last decades.
This toxic heavy metal is allocated to edible plant parts and moves upwards in the food
chain, e.g. via cereals and vegetables. Plant uptake has been investigated in many species.
For wheat, most studies have focused on the concentration in the grain, not, as in this study,
on total uptake.
The aim of this project was to determine the uptake of cadmium (Cd) in clone 78183 of
willow (Salix viminalis L.) and two spring wheat (Triticum aestivum L.) cultivars, cv
Dragon and cv Vinjett, as a function of both crop growth parameters, and Cd concentration
in the growth medium. The correlation between Cd concentration in the soil and in the soil
solution was also investigated. The concentrations in the growth medium were within the
range of naturally occurring concentrations of Swedish agricultural land.
The experiment was carried out as a pot experiment under controlled conditions in a
growth chamber. A blend of vermiculite, perlite, fine sand and fine gravel was used as
growth medium, which was applied with cadmium sulphate to the concentrations of 0.00,
0.10, 0.25 and 0.40 µg Cd g-1 dry soil respectively. Nutrients were supplied at an addition
rate of 0.15 day-1 (i.e. the amount increased with 15% per day) to maintain the crop growth
rate at steady state. Plant biomass above and below ground was measured by three harvests.
The time of the experiment was six weeks. The concentration of Cd in the plants, soil and
soil solution was analysed.
Cd uptake in plants was correlated to the Cd concentration in soil and in soil solution.
Both species increased their uptake with increasing soil concentrations, but there was no
significant difference in total uptake between the crops. Plant biomass production also
affected the Cd uptake. When plants were grown in soil with the same concentration of Cd,
the amount of Cd in the plant increased as the biomass increased. However, there was a
difference between species. S. viminalis showed to be more efficient in taking up Cd per
unit of biomass compared to the spring wheat cultivars. In S. viminalis, the amount of Cd in
the leaves was higher than that in the roots and stem."

hahahahaha. who doesnt think heavy metals are uptaken by plants? chucky does

now lets compare the cadmium levels in the study to levels found in advanced nutirents micro:

ADVANCED NUTRIENTS
MICRO 4-0-0 Date Sampled: 8 /9 /2012
Arsenic
0.2 µg
Cadmium
1.18 µg
Cobalt
0.4 µg
Lead
3 µg
Molybdenum
11.1 µg
Nickel
2.19 µg
Selenium
0.04 µg
Zinc
62.9 µg
Sample ID No: FT-07-0063-12
Mercury
0.073 µg


didnt you say you were done with me donkey? all youv accomplished is making your self look dumber than bag of hammers

 

[chuck estevez]

what about this?

"Eva Nylund. 2003. Cadmium uptake in willow (Salix viminalis L.) and spring wheat
(Triticum aestivum L.) in relation to plant growth and Cd concentration in soil solution.
Swedish University of Agriculture Sciences. Department of Soil Sciences.
The cadmium (Cd) concentration in agricultural soils has increased during the last decades.
This toxic heavy metal is allocated to edible plant parts and moves upwards in the food
chain, e.g. via cereals and vegetables. Plant uptake has been investigated in many species.
For wheat, most studies have focused on the concentration in the grain, not, as in this study,
on total uptake.
The aim of this project was to determine the uptake of cadmium (Cd) in clone 78183 of
willow (Salix viminalis L.) and two spring wheat (Triticum aestivum L.) cultivars, cv
Dragon and cv Vinjett, as a function of both crop growth parameters, and Cd concentration
in the growth medium. The correlation between Cd concentration in the soil and in the soil
solution was also investigated. The concentrations in the growth medium were within the
range of naturally occurring concentrations of Swedish agricultural land.
The experiment was carried out as a pot experiment under controlled conditions in a
growth chamber. A blend of vermiculite, perlite, fine sand and fine gravel was used as
growth medium, which was applied with cadmium sulphate to the concentrations of 0.00,
0.10, 0.25 and 0.40 µg Cd g-1 dry soil respectively. Nutrients were supplied at an addition
rate of 0.15 day-1 (i.e. the amount increased with 15% per day) to maintain the crop growth
rate at steady state. Plant biomass above and below ground was measured by three harvests.
The time of the experiment was six weeks. The concentration of Cd in the plants, soil and
soil solution was analysed.
Cd uptake in plants was correlated to the Cd concentration in soil and in soil solution.
Both species increased their uptake with increasing soil concentrations, but there was no
significant difference in total uptake between the crops. Plant biomass production also
affected the Cd uptake. When plants were grown in soil with the same concentration of Cd,
the amount of Cd in the plant increased as the biomass increased. However, there was a
difference between species. S. viminalis showed to be more efficient in taking up Cd per
unit of biomass compared to the spring wheat cultivars. In S. viminalis, the amount of Cd in
the leaves was higher than that in the roots and stem."

hahahahaha. who doesnt think heavy metals are uptaken by plants? chucky does

I'm not smoking wheat, It also says S.viminalis uptook it better. So until someone does a study on an actual MJ plant, you got nothing.

Salix viminalis, the common osier or osier, is a species of willow native to Europe and western Asia.

they didn't even use soil.

all this says is if you feed these 2 plants Cd, they will uptake it. It doesn't say because i use dyna gro in a 4 month grow that I will have a cd build up. Quit being so stupid

 

[applepoop1984]

I'm not smoking wheat, It also says S.viminalis uptook it better. So until someone does a study on an actual MJ plant, you got nothing.

Salix viminalis, the common osier or osier, is a species of willow native to Europe and western Asia.

they didn't even use soil.

EXACTLY they didnt even use soil, which holds heavy metals much better than sand perlite and vermiculite.that fact alone should prove everything. iv got everything. we were discussing the ability of plants to uptake cadmium and other heavy metals which you clearly denied (check out my new sig) now your saying that marijuana is the onyl plant immune to cadmium toxicity lol

 

[applepoop1984]

"One study found what its authors called “significantly higher” levels of mercury, nickel, lead, cadmium, and chromium in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/13/is-pot-good-for-lungs-new-marijuana-study-adds-to-health-effects-debate.html

gee i wonder why? nobody flushes and everyone loves inorganic ferts and heavy metals. im ready to ammend my list to discourage any inorganic nutes

It seems that this marijuana was grown in ground contaminated with cadmium, and his symptoms (and his wife’s anosmia) are due to cadmium poisoning.
http://www.politedissent.com/archives/586

in conclusion flush. preferably with 1 cup hydrogen peroxide per gallon. the h202's oxidative power immoblizes heavy metals better than flushing with water alone

 

[chuck estevez]

EXACTLY they didnt even use soil, which holds heavy metals much better than sand perlite and vermiculite.that fact alone should prove everything. iv got everything. we were discussing the ability of plants to uptake cadmium and other heavy metals which you clearly denied (check out my new sig) now your saying that marijuana is the onyl plant immune to cadmium toxicity lol

YAWN. I'm done with this. Gonna go smoke some cadmium. Smoking all that heavy metal makes me want to crank some pantera.Later

 

[chuck estevez]

"One study found what its authors called “significantly higher” levels of mercury, nickel, lead, cadmium, and chromium in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/13/is-pot-good-for-lungs-new-marijuana-study-adds-to-health-effects-debate.html

gee i wonder why? nobody flushes and everyone loves inorganic ferts and heavy metals. im ready to ammend my list to discourage any inorganic nutes

It seems that this marijuana was grown in ground contaminated with cadmium, and his symptoms (and his wife’s anosmia) are due to cadmium poisoning.
http://www.politedissent.com/archives/586

in conclusion flush. preferably with 1 cup hydrogen peroxide per gallon. the h202's oxidative power immoblizes heavy metals better than flushing with water alone

and how does flushing remove the heavy metal from the plant?

 

[applepoop1984]

YAWN. I'm done with this. Gonna go smoke some cadmium.Later

So long and good riddance!

 

[applepoop1984]

and how does flushing remove the heavy metal from the plant?

acetic acid(vinegar) mixed with water to ph 5.0 is effective at removing cadmium ions.This method injects an oxidant such as hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) into the contaminated aquifer. The contaminant is oxidized, primarily producing carbon dioxide and water. running electric current through the soil will immoblize cadmium ions. plain water with a low ppm will remove cadmium ions. flushing is necessary. you have all the proof. now youv said you were done with this thread over 5 times already. why do you keep comign back. go away you have accomplished nothing but make people question how you have so much rep in less than a year