Stoneslacker's new 250w micro hempy scrog Blueberry, Blackjack and Permafrost

stoneslacker

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Beauty so far stone. Sorry to hear about your training trauma but sounds like you were right on top of the triage. It does seem like some strains lend themselves better to this technique than others, even early on in the training. Glad to hear the cuttings have mostly rooted - I might hit you up for a Maz x GWS cutting one day ;)
Hey Yankee, ya I definitely hope I got to her in time. She will be on a strict, no-training regimen till I get some healing out of her, then I will try more cropping and a lighter round of LST. I am going to give her a couple days to heal and see what she accepts for training. Glad the cutting rooted myself mate, was worried about running those homemade beans a little and now I'll end up with 2 of the big girls cuttings each for the SOG. I have a good feeling on this Maz x GWS too, can't wait to see how she does. ATB mate.


Looking great in there Stone, if you didn`t have to repair something in your first ML run, you ain`t learning ;). The girls are looking ready for flower nearly, look loaded with N. Keep it up mate! Puff, puff, pass ---> Purple Kush morning joints :joint::mrgreen:

KC :weed:
Wouldn't be a grow for me period if I didn't damage or permanently mutilate one of the girls. Always seem to somehow dismember one plant each run, luckily wasn't a full beheading this round so hope there's a good chance to save her. I am definitely going to take your advice and flip this week for sure. A few days for NL to heal and the SOG sisters to adapt, then I'll put them through sensory deprivation torture (ok really just no light for 36hrs) then flip em over under the MH still. Hope to limit stretch a bit, but I've seen it work both ways, really think it is just strain and pheno dependent more than anything. Will try some cropping though if things get all wacked out in there. Purple Kush doobies sound good for the evening time too mate! Match you with some Lemon Skunk bongs bongsmilie Puff, puff, pass brotha.


Im sure she will heal up just fine. Looks like youre doing a great job.
I'm hoping so SS. I think I caught her in time and her tops are not wilting at all, so I am optimistic. The training has gone very well so far, getting to experience 3 different versions of the mainline method. Just hope I didn't bite off more than I can chew by taking the BR and Maz past 4 heads. But had to go with the Maz when she showed the triploid, so no regrets...yet! Peace bro


I have to agree with K.C., you're just not learning if you're not doing some type of harm. Funny how that works. I've noticed that with ML the plants have a special need for extra P as well as K. Working with a plant that has such little foliage to support it's vital functions with enough energy seems to put it in a spot of need for extra P & K. Follow me for a minute, I think the extra P for the roots to grow and uptake an amount of nutrients that a plant that's being robbed of all it's sugars and N stored in the leafs is pretty important, and a larger amount of K I found really helps with all the pinching, topping and bending of the girl to withstand the damage and bounce back without a problem. Of course silica plays a crucial role as well in keeping your plant healthy and resistant to the stresses. I know alot of you use P/K 13-14, I like to use R.O. HPK and G.O. Bio-Bud for the same reasons and have found applying such products in low doses during a long vegging period can play a critical role in keeping your girls growing on top and under the soil quite happily. After starting to experiment with such methods I was pulling out the root balls and noticing an explosion of growth in the root system inbetween Xplants. E.J. has a product called Meta K that is an organic potassium that also works very well for this type of use. I just wanted to spread a litle info I have been working on for a while and compiling. I'm sure you all know how this works, but I just wanted to remind of such importance of these vital ingredients in a plants metabolism. Take it easy everybody and the garden is mighty impressive Stone. Peace out.
Hey myco thanks for the great observations mate. I agree that a plant that is being trained in this method could benefit from some extra P/K but it really becomes a balancing act between how much is available and how much the plant can process. Depending on growing method and medium, the ease at which a plant can uptake certain elements is different at varying levels of ph. The main difference being soil and some soiless mixes needing a higher ph than a DWC or other hydro system. Nitrogen, iron and some other nutes are more easily obtained at lower ph levels whereas P/K both, along with either Ca or Mag have a higher ph sweet zone. Many times a grower will address a deficiency or overfert with either overflushing and underfeeding, or just plain overfeeding. Often a small adjustment in ph can make all the difference. Thanks for stopping in and offering some great advice and discussion points myco. ATB mate.


Stone, I just use a folgers can like u do, I put a hydro basket in it and fill it with perlite and airate, I stick the clones in there, just an inch of water above the perlite, and life the basket to see if they have rooted, the perlite helps hold them up, when I use the jiffy pots, I use a bigger container, right now I don't have a lot going so no need for something bigger to clone
So in a sense it is a modified aerocloner. The airstone stays submerged if I am understanding right so that should work really well. From what I've seen aerocloners work great. Nice harvest on WoH earlier by the way. Props Mrs. Greenthumb. :clap:


Good stuff SS! Those girls are getting big FAST!
Thanks SS! The torture of training has definitely limited some of their growth thank god or I would be grown out. Hempy- get it, try it, love it. How you managing in the blackjack jungle over there man? Can't wait to see your pheno start to show off!
 

StevieStoner

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I hear ya man. I wish my girl stopped stretching for a lil I'm almost out of space lol. I got about a foot left in height so I should be in the clear, knock on wood. Couldn't agree more I love the Hempy, I don't think I'll be trying any other medium for a while.
 

stoneslacker

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I hear ya man. I wish my girl stopped stretching for a lil I'm almost out of space lol. I got about a foot left in height so I should be in the clear, knock on wood. Couldn't agree more I love the Hempy, I don't think I'll be trying any other medium for a while.
Bit worried about stretch myself, I really don't have much overhead room. Going to err on the side of caution and flip em early.


Damn Stone they looking sexy as hell! I am definately going to have to try an indica strain here soon :). Can't wait to see how they do in flowering
Thanks for checkin in Caddy. You won't have to wait too long mate...

The girls got a fairly heavy feeding tonight, compared to the lightweight mixes I've been giving them. With some careful monitoring and draining of rez's I have been able to keep all 9 plants drying out at really close to the same time. Feeding about every 3 days which is exactly where I like to be in my intervals. I have not been leaving much in the rez at this time though, and will start to bump up the amount of rez volume I leave.

The lights are going down tomorrow morning at 9 and will stay off till the official start of flower at 9 p.m. Wednesday. Breeder flowering times on all 3 are around 55-65 days so should be right around 9-10 weeks. We're off like a prom dress!

Last pic of veg.
 

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steeliesteve

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Can't believe how fast this is going! I'm really excited to see how the ML turns out! Whatever you're doing, they seem to love it!
 

stoneslacker

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Can't believe how fast this is going! I'm really excited to see how the ML turns out! Whatever you're doing, they seem to love it!
You and me both bro. First day of flower tomorrow will mark the 37th day from seed, 33rd from sprout. Not too bad and 6 rooted clones to boot. If I had a better idea of how much stretch I'll get with the mainline, I'd be a bit more inclined to let them veg for a bit longer. All 3 are looking really healthy so I should get a problem free stretch period to judge for future indica mainline attempts. Have some plans to attempt a mainline/scrog of some sativas, probably like the Paradise seeds champions mix, I really like the nebula and the other 2 sound outstanding too https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/paradise-sativa-champion-mix/prod_3394.html. All 3 have around the same flower time so they sound like good candidates.

Of course that will be after my kush mainline attempt this fall. 2 subjects reserved already for that grow, as I got another freebie from a friend. Both these are good subjects for my first kush attempt I think, still working out the 3rd. Here are the 2 already reserved
World of Seeds Legend Collection Afghan Kush Special https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/world-of-seeds-legend-collection-afghan-kush-special/prod_2784.html
World of Seeds Landraces Pakistan Valley https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/world-of-seeds-landraces-pakistan-valley-feminized/prod_2781.html

Thinking about adding one of these 2 and keeping it a World of Seeds grow. World of Seeds Legend Collection Mazar Kush https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/orld-of-seeds-legend-collection-mazar-kush/prod_2787.html
World of Seeds Medical Collection Afghan Kush x Black Domina https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/world-of-seeds-medical-collection-afghan-kush-x-black-domina/prod_2794.html

Ill make a decision after I see how the World of Seeds Maz x GWS turns out. Peace
 

whocares100

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Stone, Thanks, yes a modified cloner, I do not have a lot of room so small scale works for me...I can run 2 off one pump if I want...

The girls are looking great are they feminized or wait and see?
 

KushCanuck

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You and me both bro. First day of flower tomorrow will mark the 37th day from seed, 33rd from sprout. Not too bad and 6 rooted clones to boot. If I had a better idea of how much stretch I'll get with the mainline, I'd be a bit more inclined to let them veg for a bit longer. All 3 are looking really healthy so I should get a problem free stretch period to judge for future indica mainline attempts. Have some plans to attempt a mainline/scrog of some sativas, probably like the Paradise seeds champions mix, I really like the nebula and the other 2 sound outstanding too https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/paradise-sativa-champion-mix/prod_3394.html. All 3 have around the same flower time so they sound like good candidates.

Of course that will be after my kush mainline attempt this fall. 2 subjects reserved already for that grow, as I got another freebie from a friend. Both these are good subjects for my first kush attempt I think, still working out the 3rd. Here are the 2 already reserved
World of Seeds Legend Collection Afghan Kush Special https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/world-of-seeds-legend-collection-afghan-kush-special/prod_2784.html
World of Seeds Landraces Pakistan Valley https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/world-of-seeds-landraces-pakistan-valley-feminized/prod_2781.html

Thinking about adding one of these 2 and keeping it a World of Seeds grow. World of Seeds Legend Collection Mazar Kush https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/orld-of-seeds-legend-collection-mazar-kush/prod_2787.html
World of Seeds Medical Collection Afghan Kush x Black Domina https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/world-of-seeds-medical-collection-afghan-kush-x-black-domina/prod_2794.html

Ill make a decision after I see how the World of Seeds Maz x GWS turns out. Peace
**Addressing bold** You`re the master of your stretch if you flip soon Stone ... tying to the pot to form your ring per say will be how you keep it down. Anything that goes unfavourably tall in the first 2-3 week I bend and supercrop, stunts the head and lets everything catch up. :D

As far as the strains ... did I hear you have a Kush hole to fill ... !? I got something I think you`ll like! :D

KC :weed:
 

steeliesteve

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So I am making a major change this round. Ive decided to try a soil run and am in the process of buying the ingredients for Subs super soil. Im still gonna have a couple hempys of course lol. Looking to see what differences there are, see how quality compares. Not gonna lie, I like the sounds of straight water all the way through. Having a problem with seeds this round, really getting pissed. So far the Black Russian is the only one to make it. My C99 broke soil and died, my Critical S.S.H has some kind of fungus/mold on her so I tossed her. My 2 SnowLAnds never broke soil along with the God Bud. I havent given up on the SL's, they were started later than the rest. The wife and I picked out 3 new ones to start tonight. They are (drum roll please) Darkstar by TH Seeds (sounds amazing), Lemon Kush by Female Seeds(had to do a kush after drooling over all of KC's strains!) and another Critical S.S.H. by Delicious Seeds(wifes favorite). Sorry for the novel SS, frustrated and stoned. puff puff pass---> Gods Gift joint :joint:
 

stoneslacker

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Stone, Thanks, yes a modified cloner, I do not have a lot of room so small scale works for me...I can run 2 off one pump if I want...

The girls are looking great are they feminized or wait and see?
Sounds like it works great Who. Small scale is true growing in my opinion, let's you focus the proper attention to each individual plant. They are all feminized seeds so no waiting to see, the show starts tonight


**Addressing bold** You`re the master of your stretch if you flip soon Stone ... tying to the pot to form your ring per say will be how you keep it down. Anything that goes unfavourably tall in the first 2-3 week I bend and supercrop, stunts the head and lets everything catch up. :D

As far as the strains ... did I hear you have a Kush hole to fill ... !? I got something I think you`ll like! :D

KC :weed:
Thanks brotha, agree with you that flipping now helps to ensure that I can manage the stretch somewhat. I'm all ears when you talk kush mate, let me know what you're thinking.


Insert "The usual dick riding!"
LMAO Psilo! I haven't even been able to put that much effort in lately, been so damn busy and wore out from this heat. Gotta get around to a bunch of journals.
So I am making a major change this round. Ive decided to try a soil run and am in the process of buying the ingredients for Subs super soil. Im still gonna have a couple hempys of course lol. Looking to see what differences there are, see how quality compares. Not gonna lie, I like the sounds of straight water all the way through. Having a problem with seeds this round, really getting pissed. So far the Black Russian is the only one to make it. My C99 broke soil and died, my Critical S.S.H has some kind of fungus/mold on her so I tossed her. My 2 SnowLAnds never broke soil along with the God Bud. I havent given up on the SL's, they were started later than the rest. The wife and I picked out 3 new ones to start tonight. They are (drum roll please) Darkstar by TH Seeds (sounds amazing), Lemon Kush by Female Seeds(had to do a kush after drooling over all of KC's strains!) and another Critical S.S.H. by Delicious Seeds(wifes favorite). Sorry for the novel SS, frustrated and stoned. puff puff pass---> Gods Gift joint :joint:
Man that is unbelievably crappy about the seeds SS. Two or three not making it would be bad luck, that number is like you punched a baby in your past life bad luck! How are you germing them? And are you using rooter cubes, either rapid rooters or rockwool? Try my germing process out, I have near 100% success bro! Sounds like you do too, just a bad run for you.

My buddy grows in all organic soil and loves it, it's all about what you like and your comfort zone I think. IMO quality is the same as mine, maybe slightly better taste but that is debatable not certain. Production is where the difference is very noticeable, I pull the same or more weight off plants a fraction the size of his.


Unreal Stoney, they've grown heaps in just the few days ive been away! Awesome bro :D
They sure have Easty! They are growing so fast I got scared into flipping them! Lol just making sure I can manage the stretch, not too familiar with how an unscreened plant stretches anymore. The stretch should already be slightly apparent tonight when the lights come back on to start flower, can't wait to see them! Peace bro
 

KushCanuck

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Sitting at my coffee table right now putting a package together for ya Stone ... Puff, puff, pass ---> PK + Burmese joints :joint:, I`ll be in touch ;)

KC :weed:
 

Hettyman

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Had a go at making a screen last night, and left it on the coffee table. When my wife got home today she asked what it was. "a screen to keep my plant level", she looked confused. Showed her your avatar pic, and she got it. Your work is now literally "textbook" stuff :)
 

stoneslacker

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Sitting at my coffee table right now putting a package together for ya Stone ... Puff, puff, pass ---> PK + Burmese joints :joint:, I`ll be in touch ;)

KC :weed:
SWEET! Got that waking up early Christmas morning as a kid feeling! You the man bro. We're not worthy, we're not worthy!
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Had a go at making a screen last night, and left it on the coffee table. When my wife got home today she asked what it was. "a screen to keep my plant level", she looked confused. Showed her your avatar pic, and she got it. Your work is now literally "textbook" stuff :)
Did you go with the pvc frame? That's a great way if you did, I just seen you linked your journal in the 250. Heading over there to follow mate, looking forward to it.
 

stoneslacker

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this is an mazing thread second newb grow is hempy! thank you stone for the inspiration!
Thanks mggm! Lol that's a palindrome! Appreciate the great comment mate. The basics of my hempy method are buried in this thread somewhere, I think page 38 or 39, and you can also find it on my profile page in the journal entries. Ask away if I can help with any advice. Peace.
 

meangreengrowinmachine

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Thanks mggm! Lol that's a palindrome! Appreciate the great comment mate. The basics of my hempy method are buried in this thread somewhere, I think page 38 or 39, and you can also find it on my profile page in the journal entries. Ask away if I can help with any advice. Peace.
Oh trust me I know I have been through this whole thread start to finish more then once so much info in here, its all textbook like hettyman said. Ive got my seeds germed and popped in the humidity dome perlite on the bottom, on top of a heat mat (got it on a timer so not too hot) coco pellets on top of them and a little perlite on top of the 8 girls (5 vanilla kush, 1 cheese, 1 auto + critical all feminized and 1 bag seed) to try to keep the roots dark. all are germed and popping through the perlite. got all my hempy cups made and 4 out of the 8 3 gallon hempys. very excited to get growin!
 
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